Anyone ever tried Peyote or Mescaline?

[stilleto]

oh, and i only used it in college.
then i stopped. i went to one of the top art schools in the country- creativity doesn't grow on trees.

unless you count the idea tree.

 

[Lestat]

lol. seriously, you are smart enough to see the relevance of my arguments. People are throwing around statements like they are facts, when they clearly are not.

Ok, not asprin, how about alcohol. We all know it contributes to all sorts of things, death, domestic violence, liver damage, brain damage, etc.

But somehow people think that trying lsd, or a psychadelic means you will end up a failure in life, destroy your brain, etc.

Asprin, when taken in a high enough dose, can kill you as well, yet we don't knock anyone for trying that.

 

[samoth]

where are people getting the idea that lsd makes people's lives failures???

does taking asprin make your life a failure too?

Who said this? LSD is used in microgram dosages. It shouldn't have to do much work -- if any -- to filter, activate or deactivate the chemical. I'm pretty sure LSD does not cause excess production of anything in the body that would need to pass through the liver.

 

[Lestat]

Do you know any people that have used or abused psychadelics for years?

no. and I'm not talking about abuse or habitual use, for one, humans develop rapid tolerance to LSD, second, I am merely talking about trying something, not making it a way of life.

I do know people who have have used or abused other things for years, alcohol mainly, yet I still use it myself and no one gives me any shit for it.

 

[Lestat]

Who said this? LSD is used in microgram dosages. It shouldn't have to do much work -- if any -- to filter, activate or deactivate the chemical. I'm pretty sure LSD does not cause excess production of anything in the body that would need to pass through the liver.

i said LIVES not LIVER

 

[Bikini Mod]

I've never been able to live life like that, avoiding anything that could POTENTIALLY cause me harm.. I wouldn't be left with many things I could actually do if I cut out everything that had a potential to be dangerous.

I'm surprised you were able to have children considering how dangerous is COULD be for you. (complications, etc.)

You are kidding right?

How can you compare having children to using a hallucinogenic drug?

I suppose if you took enough drugs though, you could make ANY arguement and believe that it made sense. Perception is reality after all.

My bad.

Carry on then!!! Just please don't get behind the wheel of a car while I or any member of my family is on the road.

All you people who are on a quest to fuck your healthy minds up....

Let's just agree to disagree.

Do lots and lots and lots of drugs. ...while I choose not to.

You will be happy and so will I!

 

[samoth]

i said LIVES not LIVER

Oooh, lol. This AIM thingy was distracting me.

And from what I can recall, LSD use does not lead to tolerance. Do you think that it does?

 

[Lestat]

You are kidding right?

How can you compare having children to using a hallucinogenic drug?

I suppose if you took enough drugs though, you could make ANY arguement and believe that it made sense. Perception is reality after all.

My bad.

Carry on then!!! Just please don't get behind the wheel of a car while I or any member of my family is on the road.

All you people who are on a quest to fuck your healthy minds up....

Let's just agree to disagree.

Do lots and lots and lots of drugs. ...while I choose not to.

You will be happy and so will I!

your argument for not doing drugs is that they are dangerous right?

well apparently you choose to use that reasoning for SOME things in life, but not others. I'm not sure I understand why, but it doesn't really matter. You are free to not to anything you feel is too dangerous for you. There are plenty of things I do NOT do because of the same reason. LSD is not one of those, because from all the research I've done and college courses I've taken that discussed it (2) it is NOT life threatening and doesn't pose serious long term risk when not "abused." Of course some people "think" that it is, but I'd love to see their evidence/basis for such belief.

Think for yourself, question authority.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Oooh, lol. This AIM thingy was distracting me.

And from what I can recall, LSD use does not lead to tolerance. Do you think that it does?

Not if you jump out of the window thinking you can fly it don't!

 

[jnevin]

lol. seriously, you are smart enough to see the relevance of my arguments. People are throwing around statements like they are facts, when they clearly are not.

Ok, not asprin, how about alcohol. We all know it contributes to all sorts of things, death, domestic violence, liver damage, brain damage, etc.

But somehow people think that trying lsd, or a psychadelic means you will end up a failure in life, destroy your brain, etc.

Asprin, when taken in a high enough dose, can kill you as well, yet we don't knock anyone for trying that.

You can't use slippery slope arguments to prove a point. It seems that everyone that chimed in has had some experience with psychedelics, none that positive. I'd be more concerned with where the drugs came from. Acid cooked up in some shithole apartment in a bathtub chemistry set by a burnout would be bad. I've seen people that took acid that wasn't dosed properly, and they haven't come back to who they were when it happened. That's like 13 years ago. Anything can be safe, anything can be dangerous.

You're going to do what you're going to do. It just seems you want to justify it and have someone tell you it's the right thing for you to do.