Anyone ever tried Peyote or Mescaline?

[Bikini Mod]

a lot of people would never smoke pot. for lots of reasons.

but they would have a beer.

to me, that makes NO sense, but because one is commercialized and pushed on the public, and the other is illegal and frowned upon by some... it's what people believe to be the right order of things.

meanwhile, beer makes me lethargic, bloated, and lots of other things. weed calms me, i sleep great, and i wake up fine.

that's propaganda, for sure.

Similar agents behave differently in different people's bodies... or should I say that different people react differently to the same agent. I don't like pot for a few reasons and am chicken shit to try other drugs. Alcohol is OK. I dont mind a slow controlled buzz but in the end EVERYTHING makes me sick so I try to stay away.

I am TERRIFIED to take any drug that will make me hallucinate. I've seen a lot of ugliness in my REAL LIFE. What if they came back to me during a trip? Wasn't it bad enough I lived it the first time?

Yea... I am afraid... Ya'll forgetting I haven't had a decent nights' sleep in like 20 years?

So now who is to say that I wouldn't take one of these drugs and see HORRIBLE things and jump out of a window or run into the street because I am trying to escape some percieved evil?

NO ONE CAN SAY FOR SURE.... so guess what? I will stay with vodka, wine or beer.

 

[Lestat]

Yep. It's all defined by society at any given time, for better or for worse.

ding ding ding!!

im not concerned about that. some societies thought it was ok to torture people publicly, whether or not society condoned it or not had ZERO effect on how much the person suffered.

Society's view on drugs has ZERO effect on how addictive they are, or destructive, and that is what I am concerned with when I make a decision to try something or not.

 

[Lestat]

Similar agents behave differently in different people's bodies... or should I say that different people react differently to the same agent. I don't like pot for a few reasons and am chicken shit to try other drugs. Alcohol is OK. I dont mind a slow controlled buzz but in the end EVERYTHING makes me sick so I try to stay away.

I am TERRIFIED to take any drug that will make me hallucinate. I've seen a lot of ugliness in my REAL LIFE. What if they came back to me during a trip? Wasn't it bad enough I lived it the first time?

Yea... I am afraid... Ya'll forgetting I haven't had a decent nights' sleep in like 20 years?

So now who is to say that I wouldn't take one of these drugs and see HORRIBLE things and jump out of a window or run into the street because I am trying to escape some percieved evil?

NO ONE CAN SAY FOR SURE.... so guess what? I will stay with vodka, wine or beer.

ok, i respect and accept that reason "I don't try <insert drug name> because I am scared.."

I won't even try to make you less scared, I don't care if you do or don't do it.

I care if you judge others for not sharing your views, or if you make statements like "If you are ok with all that risk (without explaining the risk) fine, but its not for me"

 

[Lestat]

is bmom the only one even reading my posts?

i'm going out. y'all suck.

i read them all

 

[Lestat]

Interesting, but the psychadelic effects on the brain and higher reasoning centers of the human organism are not at a one-to-one correspondance with that of mice.

Also samote, I'm dissapointed, you usually are such a scientifc thinker. Science is a body of knowledge or convergence of evidence, you don't take one weak point and use that to try to invalidate an entire theory. That is what creationists do, they try to find one area where evolution fails a scientifc test, and use that to invalidate the ENTIRE theory.

 

[Lestat]

great thread everyone! really took off.

Still, I'd like to hear from people who have tried Peyote or Mescaline.

 

[Bikini Mod]

ok, i respect and accept that reason "I don't try <insert drug name> because I am scared.."

I won't even try to make you less scared, I don't care if you do or don't do it.

I care if you judge others for not sharing your views, or if you make statements like "If you are ok with all that risk (without explaining the risk) fine, but its not for me"

Stiletto's story explained the risk. I don't have to try a drug for myself to know that I don't wish to experience that kind of thing. These types of agents were offered me and I never did them for fear of the situations that I mentioned. I always feared a *bad trip* and what the end result MIGHT be. That MIGHT was enough for me to pass.

I am not saying you are bad for doing such drugs... unless you choose to drive a car while under their influence.

I am saying that in MY OPINION (which FOR ME is solid one) I don't think that it is a GOOD IDEA to use such an agent. I also don't think that it is a good idea to jump over a shitload of busses with a motorcycle but that didn't stop Evil Knievel.... did it?

Do whatever you wish.... JUST DONT DRIVE A CAR.

 

[stilleto]

Stiletto's story explained the risk. I don't have to try a drug for myself to know that I don't wish to experience that kind of thing. These types of agents were offered me and I never did them for fear of the situations that I mentioned. I always feared a *bad trip* and what the end result MIGHT be. That MIGHT was enough for me to pass.

I am not saying you are bad for doing such drugs... unless you choose to drive a car while under their influence.

I am saying that in MY OPINION (which FOR ME is solid one) I don't think that it is a GOOD IDEA to use such an agent. I also don't think that it is a good idea to jump over a shitload of busses with a motorcycle but that didn't stop Evil Knievel.... did it?

Do whatever you wish.... JUST DONT DRIVE A CAR.

i actually do understand what you're saying 100%
but keep this in mind, for example...
brothabill used dxm a lot. he loved it and felt it took him to another 'level' that he could never achieve otherwise. He saw zen. how awesome, right?

well i tried it, and thought i was on fire. i wanted to call 911, but couldn't remember how.
my experience totally differed from his, obviously. i won't try dxm again, but it doesn't mean his experience (or yours if you tried it) wouldn't be wonderful.

I've done mescalin PLENTY of times where I stayed in and felt at total peace to the point of euphoria. i did have a bad experience with it, but bad experiences are often because of INexperience, or the state of mind of the user. they are not universal, just like horrible car accidents are not inevitable to every person who learns to drive.

thats all. i'm a genius.
i love you all.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Is this the part where we join hands in a circle and sing "Cum-bah-yah M'Lord"?... clothing optional, of course.

 

[swole]

hey! let's point fingers at juicers and say bro you're not thinking of the long term but yet i'll try these fucking retarded drugs that nimit gibaba muhatmad grew on cow turd instead!!

p.s. i don't care if this shit wasn't grown on cow turd like shrooms.

my answer to your reply: blah blah, cuz i'm not reading it.