Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Thanks for response dylangemelli. At the end of this 3 months of rub on Testosterone I will ask the DR for the injectable cyp, only reason I did not get it is I did not want to make him think any thing suspicious. I already have an October appointment set. So my fault for not sticking with what I my self knew was better. So at best, this rub can be considered a starter kit/intro, and if it gives me a rash maybe he will change it. My goals are to lose more weight and gain muscle mass and definition, I want to have my 6 pax show again, and horse shoe tri and neck to look like I'm wearing pads, like I used to look. I have a lot of work ahead of me, but I respond well to things. I have loss weight and changed diet and now I have little boost with the testosterone, just need some fine tuning.
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Thanks for response dylangemelli. At the end of this 3 months of rub on Testosterone I will ask the DR for the injectable cyp, only reason I did not get it is I did not want to make him think any thing suspicious. I already have an October appointment set. So my fault for not sticking with what I my self knew was better. So at best, this rub can be considered a starter kit/intro, and if it gives me a rash maybe he will change it. My goals are to lose more weight and gain muscle mass and definition, I want to have my 6 pax show again, and horse shoe tri and neck to look like I'm wearing pads, like I used to look. I have a lot of work ahead of me, but I respond well to things. I have loss weight and changed diet and now I have little boost with the testosterone, just need some fine tuning.
You need to get consistent with diet and training before you start running cycles
I thought I was clear with my intentions and reason for posting. My diet is consistent as for as I can take it, however different proportions and type of foods my need to change and as my workout goes the stable. Its been a year since I last posted and I took all advice into consideration and acted on them. I was hoping for more guidance as far as supplement I could buy to enhance the Testosterone I'm taking. My goal is too not to look like Mr. Olympia, it is how ever my goal to get my strength back along with size and definition. I am as ready to run a cycle as ever
you don't need testosterone.. your T levels are well within range for someone your age. hell there are 20 year old posting on here who have lower T levels
your problem is you let yourself go and need to fix your diet and training. you start up with HRT and gels etc. and you will be stuck on it for the rest of your life and you don't even need it. your T levels are totally fine
and your not gonna magically turn into mr olympia by taking some steroids. good lord you are naive for thinking that. from what you are saying you don't need hormones at all you just need some natty supps. phyto-serms or T stack RX are both natural (see my signature for the banners and discount code) thats all you need.. I can't believe your doctor put you on the gel without even suggesting a lifestyle change. (actually i'm not surprised since there is no money in it for him to do that).. did he even explain to you that once you stay on the gel for a while then you are gonna be stuck forever taking it? NOPE he did not. you should have asked more questions and listened to your original advice dylan gave you on page 1 a year ago. now you are probably fucked
your problem is you let yourself go and need to fix your diet and training. you start up with HRT and gels etc. and you will be stuck on it for the rest of your life and you don't even need it. your T levels are totally fine
and your not gonna magically turn into mr olympia by taking some steroids. good lord you are naive for thinking that. from what you are saying you don't need hormones at all you just need some natty supps. phyto-serms or T stack RX are both natural (see my signature for the banners and discount code) thats all you need.. I can't believe your doctor put you on the gel without even suggesting a lifestyle change. (actually i'm not surprised since there is no money in it for him to do that).. did he even explain to you that once you stay on the gel for a while then you are gonna be stuck forever taking it? NOPE he did not. you should have asked more questions and listened to your original advice dylan gave you on page 1 a year ago. now you are probably fucked
You have big misconceptions bro... "As far as you can take it" does not work... When you have goals you have to make sacrifices and the mental aspect is just as hard if not harder than the physical... I go pretty extreme but i sacrifice everyday for what i want... You may not want to be mr olympia but to use steroids you need a good foundation and discipline... You are nowhere near that and until you get that, you have no business running a cycle... You asked for my help and i take time out of my day to do that so dont get pissed just because you dont hear what you want... We are trying to help you...
Just want to clear this up, I am in no way mad at anyone for your opinion, I have thick skin and am not offended or mad. I truly Admire your accomplishments in your fitness and knowledge and time you all take with people you don't know. I'm not hear to make waves.
Stevesmi - I never stated that I wanted to look like Mr. Olympia, yes, one would be naive in thinking you can just take a roid or supplement and poof “Adonis is born”. You are correct in the fact I did let my self go but I am not a fat body, and I am not new to hard work, and I definitely know what Sacrifice is. I know what risk I'm willing to take, and while my Testosterone may be at a level we all think is to be normal, no one is 100% on what each of us was programed with. And I am in fact under DR supervision, I go back in 3 months where I will get my inject-able cyp.
Testosterone level range is (250 -1100) and that’s out of how many people tested to get this average? Was lifestyle,race, body fat,muscle mass and other factors taken in to this small range study to judge Millions of men?
Dylangemelli - the "As far as you can take it" coment was a toss in as I did not want to get into what and when and how many times I eat, I do know its a big factor in all this. Now I may not eat like a you all as far as 5 times a day and know how to cycle products and so on, (I'm not on a quest to a body building contest) but the fact is I'm going to run with this Testosterone and if I can get no suggestions from here then Ill just buy what I may think I could use to help. Dylangemelli I respect the fact that the last time I was here you said no way you would give me any advice as it would not be safe, but I came back a year later with things a lot better then when I first came here, that means working out, eating good, and now I got my Testosterone and I’m going to stay with it until my DR say its causing other issues.
I’m kinda of baffled more or less that some people are agents me wanting to take my Testosterone, I am assuming some of you take roids and or have taken them, and or supplements/ cycles that have warnings and controversy to them. I know you all have a way better understanding of whats the best route to do things but I also know what I can handle. And I respond really well once going. I’m just new to the Testosterone side of this. My past I've taken every thing from impact nutrition (equabolin) and others stacks they offered, Max Muscle supplements, GNC type, and the list goes on.
I appreciate all the comments and advice from all that chimed in, I will discontinue to post here as this is going know where, maybe I'm in the wrong place for me, I will not stop until I get what I want, and what I want is guidance on what I could take to enhance what I got and some other things that go along with, I don’t need anyone worried about my Risk (however its a admirable trait). Ill just read the forums. I spent 16 months eating IEDs every other day in country for a lot less payout and a hell of a lot more Risk.
Thanks Again,
Respectfully
Michael J.
Stevesmi - I never stated that I wanted to look like Mr. Olympia, yes, one would be naive in thinking you can just take a roid or supplement and poof “Adonis is born”. You are correct in the fact I did let my self go but I am not a fat body, and I am not new to hard work, and I definitely know what Sacrifice is. I know what risk I'm willing to take, and while my Testosterone may be at a level we all think is to be normal, no one is 100% on what each of us was programed with. And I am in fact under DR supervision, I go back in 3 months where I will get my inject-able cyp.
Testosterone level range is (250 -1100) and that’s out of how many people tested to get this average? Was lifestyle,race, body fat,muscle mass and other factors taken in to this small range study to judge Millions of men?
Dylangemelli - the "As far as you can take it" coment was a toss in as I did not want to get into what and when and how many times I eat, I do know its a big factor in all this. Now I may not eat like a you all as far as 5 times a day and know how to cycle products and so on, (I'm not on a quest to a body building contest) but the fact is I'm going to run with this Testosterone and if I can get no suggestions from here then Ill just buy what I may think I could use to help. Dylangemelli I respect the fact that the last time I was here you said no way you would give me any advice as it would not be safe, but I came back a year later with things a lot better then when I first came here, that means working out, eating good, and now I got my Testosterone and I’m going to stay with it until my DR say its causing other issues.
I’m kinda of baffled more or less that some people are agents me wanting to take my Testosterone, I am assuming some of you take roids and or have taken them, and or supplements/ cycles that have warnings and controversy to them. I know you all have a way better understanding of whats the best route to do things but I also know what I can handle. And I respond really well once going. I’m just new to the Testosterone side of this. My past I've taken every thing from impact nutrition (equabolin) and others stacks they offered, Max Muscle supplements, GNC type, and the list goes on.
I appreciate all the comments and advice from all that chimed in, I will discontinue to post here as this is going know where, maybe I'm in the wrong place for me, I will not stop until I get what I want, and what I want is guidance on what I could take to enhance what I got and some other things that go along with, I don’t need anyone worried about my Risk (however its a admirable trait). Ill just read the forums. I spent 16 months eating IEDs every other day in country for a lot less payout and a hell of a lot more Risk.
Thanks Again,
Respectfully
Michael J.
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Please don't feel that way, Personally as long as you have a Dr supervising you continue as you wish, as far as enhancing what you're already taking , power chews before workout( i even add 1 goody powder to mine) and be sure to drink lots of water and get at least 1& 1/2 Gram of protein for every lb of bodyweight.
I'm back once again with an update, used the rub on Testosterone for a month with no increase in my Testosterone levels or any other elevations, so I asked for the Testosterone Cypionate the inject-able type, and today I picked up Testosterone Enanthate and I'm to inject one ML(cc) every two weeks. Is anyone here familiar with that type of Test and is it the same as Testosterone Cypionate? dropped 10 lbs since last post and hoping this new stuff will aid me better.
test cyp and test e are very similar... cyp has a slightly longer ester but they are pretty damn near the same...
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