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and this is why i chose this site over any other! people like dylangemelli, steve, EZ, needtoo, and all the others that actually care to take the time to tell people whats really going on, the risk and sides, and the steps that need to be taken to begin this game were all in! dylangemelli, bro, i salute you for sure on this thread! and for the op, take his advice! just look at his avatar, he didnt get like that just blowing smoke up every ones ass, dude knows his stuff!
 
x2 on Dylan's advice. The guy is a rock star around here. Best aas forum in the world and one of the only places u will find out how to do an effective, modern pct. love ya guys.
 
thank you guys for the compliments and kind words... to know that i help and have a positive effect makes me fucking thrilled... that alone inspires me to help more... im always here if you need anything!
 
Hmm don’t think some of you are reading this post correctly or maybe I’m not reading what your saying and so on. So let me try again, but first off of course I know Testosterone works and many in here has and are using it. My question was referring to the one I posted, and if anyone one used it or has heard of it, just trying to get more information on it, and yes I’ve looked on Google and thru this site. I wanted feed back from someone that’s used it or has good knowledge of Prescription Testosterone and not just the one I listed.

I'll get to the point on why I’m asking about the prescription Testosterone, Basicly when I do get it, and my Testosterone is low enough for a Doctor to prescribe it, I want to know that If I do Abuse it, and I'm talking in a way of using more then the Doc prescribed, would I gain similar to a street roid in ways or in ways of some of the products some of you have listed?

Joeblow1234- no I have not taken anything yet as I’ve made clear from the start of post. And you think 488.7 is high testosterone level for a 40 year old man? I was reading few other places and seem they say 500 to 600 is good for my age. I don’t know tho and that’s why I’m here. I’m thinking It depends on who you ask.

Goin on 4t – did someone mention Cancer, did I miss that or were you just stating something. And to your comment on “ Testosterone does not cause cancer” “ That is bullshit otherwise dr's would not be scripting it to us. “ more or less the last part of it... most Doctors do not give a damn if something they prescribed to us causes more issues then they helped. And the fact that there knowledge of steroids is so far behind times. Its like the POT theory, they have been taught to say its bad for so long they look past the positives. That’s just my opinion and first hand accounts with Doctors, but that’s another issue. I have read up a lot on Testosterone treatments and roids and so on and have seen many many people with the same issues I’m having find re leaf from Testosterone and roids and supplements and so on. My be leaf anything used in moderation cant be bad its when you over do things is when you run into issues.

One thing is for sure is that I take in all information from everyone, and the one that stuck out for me so far, has been Dylangemlli ,and not saying no one else has influenced me, but he put me on the right track from the start. When I stated this post I was exception someone just to say yeah yeah just get this and that and go work out. Reading up more I needed to do more then just take shit. I do need and understand why I need to drop weight and get in shape for anything that I chose to take to work effectively, and the ones who don’t do this are the ones complaining that this and that don’t work and tell you not to bother with it. I’m just collecting information and knowledge from pros this yourself before I go all out and spend good cash. I should be ready in a 2 months before it ask again whats a good stack for me.

Sorry for the long drawn out post, may be entertaining and good toilet reading marital for some.

Thanks again to all.
 
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See the thing with me is I've been suffering for years with major fatigue, no energy, head aches, dizziness, diarrhea, feeling light headed to feeling like passing out. They say I’m depressed (that’s there last conclusion) and try and give me pills that weeks before I joked with the wife with on a commercial about the side effects that would cause you more issues then just staying depressed and may cause death. And trust me when I tell you that I’ve seen the doctors for years with the same issues and many many test have been done with nothing to explain it.


I fought thru it all and one things for sure, I’m going to choke the shit out of the Doctor If I find out that taking safe levels of Testosterone helps me out like others with my symptoms say it does. All because he has Testosterone Education Blockers on.

maybe this post could help others? Id like to continue with this website and this thred with updates, so maybe in turn this could help others.. if im not in the correct place and asking to much pls tell me.
 
Hmm don’t think some of you are reading this post correctly or maybe I’m not reading what your saying and so on. So let me try again, but first off of course I know Testosterone works and many in here has and are using it. My question was referring to the one I posted, and if anyone one used it or has heard of it, just trying to get more information on it, and yes I’ve looked on Google and thru this site. I wanted feed back from someone that’s used it or has good knowledge of Prescription Testosterone and not just the one I listed.

I'll get to the point on why I’m asking about the prescription Testosterone, Basicly when I do get it, and my Testosterone is low enough for a Doctor to prescribe it, I want to know that If I do Abuse it, and I'm talking in a way of using more then the Doc prescribed, would I gain similar to a street roid in ways or in ways of some of the products some of you have listed?

Joeblow1234- no I have not taken anything yet as I’ve made clear from the start of post. And you think 488.7 is high testosterone level for a 40 year old man? I was reading few other places and seem they say 500 to 600 is good for my age. I don’t know tho and that’s why I’m here. I’m thinking It depends on who you ask.

Goin on 4t – did someone mention Cancer, did I miss that or were you just stating something. And to your comment on “ Testosterone does not cause cancer” “ That is bullshit otherwise dr's would not be scripting it to us. “ more or less the last part of it... most Doctors do not give a damn if something they prescribed to us causes more issues then they helped. And the fact that there knowledge of steroids is so far behind times. Its like the POT theory, they have been taught to say its bad for so long they look past the positives. That’s just my opinion and first hand accounts with Doctors, but that’s another issue. I have read up a lot on Testosterone treatments and roids and so on and have seen many many people with the same issues I’m having find re leaf from Testosterone and roids and supplements and so on. My be leaf anything used in moderation cant be bad its when you over do things is when you run into issues.

One thing is for sure is that I take in all information from everyone, and the one that stuck out for me so far, has been Dylangemlli ,and not saying no one else has influenced me, but he put me on the right track from the start. When I stated this post I was exception someone just to say yeah yeah just get this and that and go work out. Reading up more I needed to do more then just take shit. I do need and understand why I need to drop weight and get in shape for anything that I chose to take to work effectively, and the ones who don’t do this are the ones complaining that this and that don’t work and tell you not to bother with it. I’m just collecting information and knowledge from pros this yourself before I go all out and spend good cash. I should be ready in a 2 months before it ask again whats a good stack for me.

Sorry for the long drawn out post, may be entertaining and good toilet reading marital for some.

Thanks again to all.

We have a lot of similarities, I was 37 when I started searching for help, I was just seperated from my x wife, 6-1, 245lbs and well over 30%BF. I started reading these websites not just this one but several of them. I asked alot of questions and I started learning what healthy eating was all about. Working out wasn't the problem I had lifted weights even up to 30+% bf. It took me a while, and a lot of cardio, but I got down to 192lbs and 8%BF. During this time I found HRT and realized I have low T. I started adding muscle and still looking good. Now I am in a much better place physically.
I feel the key is to eat right as much as posible and doing cardio often. As we get older its harder to stay fit.
 
If I am in the wrong place to ask for guidance please tell me don’t troll me and I will remove this post


So I am back, and would like some help If possible. So if you read my first entry you may know a little what I’m going to ask questions on.
So since my last post I did in fact get a DR to prescribe Testosterone for me, and that's with having these numbers:


TESTOSTERONE . . . 643 ng/dL
ALBUMIN . . . . . . . . . 4.7 g/dL
SEX HOR BND . . . . . 41 nmol/L
TESTOS FREE . . . . . . 74.2 pg/mL
TESTOS F/W BND. . . 159.1 ng/dL


How ever it was a compound cream a pharmacy made up not mass production type, the Dr gave me a choice tho and I went with his recommendation to see if this helps. The does is 125ml rubbed on my inner thigh once a day.

One question I have would be should I take an estrogen blocker? And If so any recommendations.
Also what other supplements would help
Another would be on nutrition and I've been all over the web but want to ask here as I see a lot of you know what your doing.
Does someone have a copy and paste diet they can share? I’m going to sams club and buying the big bag of frozen breast, brown rice and a few other things. I have the P 90X diet to go off of but I think for what I'm trying to do I need more.

So basicly let me say this: I have no fucking clue on this Testosterone and I don't want to mess this up, my DR proscribe it and from what others have said normally with my level no DR would, and he did and is willing to give me the inject able type if I don’t like this rub on type.
I want to take full advantage of what I got, meaning diet and supplements and working out.

would be nice to hear from dylangemelli and going on 4T again
 
If I am in the wrong place to ask for guidance please tell me don’t troll me and I will remove this post


So I am back, and would like some help If possible. So if you read my first entry you may know a little what I’m going to ask questions on.
So since my last post I did in fact get a DR to prescribe Testosterone for me, and that's with having these numbers:


TESTOSTERONE . . . 643 ng/dL
ALBUMIN . . . . . . . . . 4.7 g/dL
SEX HOR BND . . . . . 41 nmol/L
TESTOS FREE . . . . . . 74.2 pg/mL
TESTOS F/W BND. . . 159.1 ng/dL


How ever it was a compound cream a pharmacy made up not mass production type, the Dr gave me a choice tho and I went with his recommendation to see if this helps. The does is 125ml rubbed on my inner thigh once a day.

One question I have would be should I take an estrogen blocker? And If so any recommendations.
Also what other supplements would help
Another would be on nutrition and I've been all over the web but want to ask here as I see a lot of you know what your doing.
Does someone have a copy and paste diet they can share? I’m going to sams club and buying the big bag of frozen breast, brown rice and a few other things. I have the P 90X diet to go off of but I think for what I'm trying to do I need more.

So basicly let me say this: I have no fucking clue on this Testosterone and I don't want to mess this up, my DR proscribe it and from what others have said normally with my level no DR would, and he did and is willing to give me the inject able type if I don’t like this rub on type.
I want to take full advantage of what I got, meaning diet and supplements and working out.

would be nice to hear from dylangemelli and going on 4T again

My Friend, there is no comparison of the test gel vs the testosterone Cypionate, the injectable is far superior, most folks who have tried the gels (including me)Broke out with a rash,maybe you'll be the exception to the rule..good luck.
 
My Friend, there is no comparison of the test gel vs the testosterone Cypionate, the injectable is far superior, most folks who have tried the gels (including me)Broke out with a rash,maybe you'll be the exception to the rule..good luck.



Thanks for the response, can you tell me what is the difference in the two besides the obvious as far as application and side effects, more or less I want to know if it will do the same for muscle growth, I don’t really care about the others, I just want to know if it will work. Also the DR would have given me the Testosterone Cypionate to inject if I asked for it, I just took his advice as I was really surprised he was working with me given my Testosterone levels was what a lot of people say is already a good Testosterone level for me at my age. So in 3 months I will ask for the other type.


For now could anyone guide me thru this? Tips, things I need to be doing / taking and eating?


Like should I take an estrogen blocker?
And I seen something on taking DHEA? Was going to pick some up at GNC.


Also a while back when I first started this SARS came in to the picture, could I make this into some kind of stack? And I know this is not going to give me the same effect as the street roids and I’m not trying to look like Arnold, just get my old body back.


Thanks again for all and any future help,


MJM
p.s anyone in Fairbanks Alaska?
 
bro... you need to listen to radar and get the injectable cyp... there is no comparison... for your diet, go to the diet section and post for help there... as far as an estrogen blocker, that would depend on if you are gyno prone or not... if you are just cruising with test then you should not need one... as far as supplements to take, that would depend on what your goals are...
 
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