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ever notice how that any negative shit posted about roids always gets denial?
the doctors suck, the media suck, everything sucks and is wrong...smells like denial? what do you think?
i think anti steroids is the way to be....if i knew anyone that did steroids i would call the police on them
didnt really want to argue about it ,obviously have different views but no reason to bicker back and forthgreat commentary bro
I have been around this stuff for 20 years plus and I have never ever seen nor heard of this. And why only on his chest and back? I mean, when I see someone who gets acne from roids, it is on their face, back, shoulders, etc. I have never known anyone to get zits on their chest even from puberty. Maybe he get all infected from shaving or something, but damn, that would be the rarest case of zits from steroids I have ever seen. I am not saying it couldn't happen, just never heard of it in all the years I have known about this stuff.
Maybe George and Company could do some research and shed some light on this.
Maybe George and Company could do some research and shed some light on this.
my guess is that roids are synthetics of a substance already occuring in the body whereas alcohol, tylenol, etc are not.
mrplunkey
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Decent theory. I'll have to think about that one.
Other naturally-produced substances that can be exogenously dosed in 10-20x their normal amounts...
gh? slin? possibly
I don't know what the whole anti-steroid stance is based on. Can someone help me out? If we allow smoking, red meat, and guns; then what's wrong with the roids? If you die from them, GREAT! One more out of the gene pool. If you get bigger from them, GREAT! It worked out for you.
mrplunkey
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20x the clinical dose of insulin would powerkill your butt I think.
mrplunkey
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They get a bad rap probably because:
1) They are addictive. No question about that.
2) They do tend to bring-out the stereotypical aspects of men that the feminist movement has been telling the world is so terrible for the last 40 years (i.e. aggressiveness, sexual preoccupation, etc. etc.)
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Spartacus
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Yeah...like chemical burns or some shit....not gear abuse.
it's rsnoble-im-back after him home meth lab exploded
An addiction is a physical dependancy to a substance. Steroids are not physically addictive. Your body does not become dependant on them like you do with other drugs like cocaine, tobacco or alcohol to feel like it has to function properly.
Sure, some people love taking steroids and do it become it makes them feel good, but they do not institute a physical dependancy on exogeneous hormones.
didnt really want to argue about it ,obviously have different views but no reason to bicker back and forth
exchange of ideas is all i'm looking to do...i'm going run a cycle
i just think it's funny when online gurus call doctors and medical peeps dumb and ignorant
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S Meller MD, N J Neumann MD,
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obivously these people must be retarded imbeciles for thinking that aas is in anway bad
needtogetaas
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The only reason this thread would get the boot. Is because it should be posted in aas. O wait it is posted in aas
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/steroids-giving-you-acne-607584.html
And yet its not getting locked. HMMMMMM
needtogetaas
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foot meat mouth bino?
Bikini Mod
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please show me proof that this guy is fucked up because of steroids? I read the article but i didnt see where it says this? it says some guy came into a office with sores and acne and he told doctors he abused steroids...
this very informative article showed the cause and reason why this had happened...it has to be pretty common considering how many hundreds of thousands use steroids...were all walking around with holes in our skin leakin puss....
this article is no different then any other useless news story...there is no proof it was directly caused,did this guy have skin issues before? we dont know...nobody knows since they put a whole 5 minutes into typing the article for the scare factor
redsamurai
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bino, there are legitimate concerns to AAS use......but did you look at those photo's bro? Do you think that if your typical roid user was getting "just a fraction" of that condition that roid use would be prevelant? The dude's physique didn't even remotely look like a roid users.....even the first photo's phsyique didn't look roid gained. That dude obviously had some prior genetic disposition or something.....that shit almost looks like psoriasis.....whatever.
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Not that I am defending anyone's use of illegal agents, however, the article clearly stated something about "doping". Can someone please enlighten me as to whether or not this is some new jargon that is synonymous with the use of steriods? Not to mention the FACT that if this was something that was a common occurance with MOST users of performance enhancing agents such as anabolic agents then doesn't someone think that it would have been revealed sooner by those who have been using such agenst for quite some time?
The article is weak and laughable.
The article is weak and laughable.
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maybe i'm stretching a bit to make a point here, but i know peeps can recognize what i'm getting at.
foot meat mouth, if the intention was to spell meet with an a, is the funniest thing i've read in a while
i think i will forever spell meet with an a
i haven't blazed since around jan...that's what i have to say
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Not the issue sir... if I read correctly on a LeStat thread you are somewhat of a proponent of "responsible" pot use (whatever that is) and yet you pounce on some OBVIOUSLY FOOLISH *joose* story.
Come on Bino... you are waaaaaaaay too intelligent to get behind such an example of utter bunk. If there was a SHRED of truth to the bullshit in that article then don't you think MOST of the joosers on elite would have said something about such "side effects"?
Utter fukkin bunk... I wish the media would just stick to the truth about such agents. But then again that would be like expecting the media to stick to the truth about pot use or any other damned thing... right?
needtogetaas
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I know its wrong now but when I first started posting on ef I did not. I liked it spelled like that and do it often just for kicks now. A lot of times people will not even notice it but I will spell
a word wrong for a reason. You really have to read what I wrote and think about it to get it. Most people just skim it and say "ah thats needto's bad spelling" every once in a wile some one will get it though.
meh, i'm confused about the whole weed issue...plunkey and a few others have got me thinking of different aspects of the issue.Not the issue sir... if I read correctly on a LeStat thread you are somewhat of a proponent of "responsible" pot use (whatever that is) and yet you pounce on some OBVIOUSLY FOOLISH *joose* story.
Come on Bino... you are waaaaaaaay too intelligent to get behind such an example of utter bunk. If there was a SHRED of truth to the bullshit in that article then don't you think MOST of the joosers on elite would have said something about such "side effects"?
Utter fukkin bunk... I wish the media would just stick to the truth about such agents. But then again that would be like expecting the media to stick to the truth about pot use or any other damned thing... right?
personally, i know i can't responsibly smoke, it's either every day all day or not at all.
but the point i'm attempting to make, pretty bold on my part on a jooser board btw, is that whenever something negative crops up about roids everyone calls it a fraud/lies/propaganda
in my eyes it looks oftly like drug use denial, the same denial i used when sitting on my ass for months straight getting stoned to the hilt.
not many peeps i agree with me about this, so i don't expect you to
mrplunkey
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Steroids are definitely physically addictive. If your body didn't accommodate for their presence and begin relying on them then there would be no such thing as PCT.
Also regarding the physically addictive properties of steroids, abrupt discontinued use can definitely lead to temporary depression. I don't know the mechanism, but testosterone was a standard, medically-approved treatment for male depression until high-priced oral antidepressants were pushed onto men by big pharma.
And don't even get me started on the psychological issues regarding gear... I used to work at a gym where we "rehabilitated" NCAA athletes trying to get off the sauce. These guys would spend all day, every day, reminiscing about how great they felt and strong they were back when they were using. It was really sad.
mrplunkey
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Well yes an no...
Average Doctor < Collective Juicer Board Knowledge < High-End Joose-Savvy Endocrinologist
It is impressive the base of knowledge that the EF jewsers collectively maintain. It like five people trying to answer the same trivial pursuit question -- its amazing how much knowledge they can amass.
walliwalibus
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Pot isn't physically addictive. I don't know about Jooses or apples or oranges. I do know pot isn't physically addictive, its all in the mind. Go a bit deeper, like lets say pills, they are highly addictive both physically and mentally. Personally I like to take a nice TRIP in the woods nekked and chase bears... and I am addicted to it.
Ah no doubt. But I think its safe to say that, with a lot of other things in life, we dont know everything about everything.
mrplunkey
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Yup. Steroid use is incredibly complex because it varies from person-to-person so wildly. I personally think that's why most doctors shy away from prescribing steroids. While most medication needs to be "tuned" to the individual user, steroids can be a lifelong titration that doesn't pay well in a we'll-fix-you-only-when-you-break medical reimbursement system.
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Have you read some of the VERY SERIOUS warnings there are on the women's forums about the use of anabolics and other performance enhancing agents? <--- that does not = "covering up the dark side of use" or promoting the denial that oft comes with the use of these agents. I personally have begun threads on the forums warning of the psychological and emotional rammifications of the use of such performance enhancing agents. And No, I am NOT talking about the fabricated "roid rage". I am talking about the inability of many to give up the look and feel they had while on. IMHO that is very addictive. But then again, we could sit and argue the addiction that comes from any sort of activity that will alter how we look or feel. IMO certain behaviors can be self-monitored by mature adults rather than by younger adults/teens. But truth be told there will ALWAYS be those that will do whatever they like REGARDLESS of the downside. It is for these people that I am all about the dissemination of ACCURATE information so that they can make the most intelligent personal adult decisions possible.
We are actually on the same side, Bino. My issue is with utter media hystieria and BUNK. I am all about knowledge = power. But give me REAL KNOWLEDGE and not sensationalist bullshit.
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mrplunkey
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That's not a fox news issue. The media is generally down on steroid use.
MaGilicuti
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steriods = bad
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