Anavar only cycle, the real facts.

[lilblitz]

Ok, bear with this long post, I will try not to rabbit on.

So there is a whole plethora of conflicting info from forum members on this issue, the controversial var only cycle.

Now here is my rational behind taking it feel free to advise that is what I am here to receive, I am no expert but please don't feel the need to issue smart ass comments vs constructive ones, thank you in advance.

Ok so I am 30, 5'9 1/2 about 175, I opt for this kind of weight as I box and prefer to stay athletic vs my early/mid 20's when I wanted to look overly stocky and was more into the bb scene.

About 5 months ago I ruptured a disc in my spine and it was pushing on my sciatic nerve, not pleasant, symptoms ranged from not feeling my ass cheek for 3 months to severe cramp like shooting pains in my leg and the inability to walk.

So thankfully this cleared up, chiro tells me I have to build up the lower back muscles to support my spine, as well as my glutes, neither of which are great ( I am more upper body and this is my problem) so me being me I am after a short cut.

Now I am not opposed to running test and ran test e only cycles in my early 20's with nice results, I now have my hands on some great anavar from up north, rave reviews from gym buddies and so on.

Now the reason I don't want test in there is because I can't lift heavy, I am only on machines and cables for now and the main goal is building the smaller muscles in the lower back and my core, so it seems a waste otherwise a little test prop in there might yield lovely results.

So here we are, 6 weeks of var at 50mg ed, hoping to build the lower back and core and if I get a few pounds in lean mass great, got the milk thistle, stacking with creatine ( I hear good things) but my question is PCT, now my buddy did 80 mg ed for 6 weeks and went from 190 to 204, I have personally witnessed this unlike the hearsay that floats around, another guy in our circle kept weight and leaned up nicely, NONE OF THEM IMPLEMENTED PCT, and according to their testimony their rockets are launching in usual sequence. Now I can get some Nolva, on one hand I hear from some it increases natural test and brings the boys back and from some that it is only for anti e and wont suffice as pct and to use clomid, which I would rather not as I am of the view it is unpleasant stuff.

Options on the table:

1) NOTHING, wing it, 6 weeks wont make me a shemale ( I hope)

2) Play it safe, hormones are not to be played with, 10 days clomid 3 to 4 weeks nolva and maybe even a preventative med on cycle to ease ptc.

3) The middle route, 3 weeks of nolva some goats weed or a test booster.

Now before I hear any take test comments read my reason for NOT above and also with that school of thought, the test will DEFO shut me down even at 200 mg a week, so same issue.

I think people just love the chime on to the tune of test MUST be the base of every cycle, I agree it's better but look var isn't made for us it is made for people with muscle wasting diseases the pharmaceutical companies don't say hey use this with a gram of test or your manhood will wilt like an aging flower stem. People take it with nothing prescribed from their doc, whether they give them other meds to counter shrinkage I do not know but i DO KNOW they do not prescribe it with testosterone as the rule.

Lets get some good info on this because this is becoming a popular cycle especially in the fighting/mma scene and with quality UGL's producing it cheap and high quality (I paid 250 for this cycle) it is set to be a favorite for summer time pretty boys who want to hold on to their hair for another few years before the inevitable.

 

[Judo Tom]

dont cycle until you can lift heavy

i ruptured 2 discs in my neck.. for 3 months i couldnt lift at all. for about a year i had to go light. real light.. deadlifting the bar w/ 5lbs a side to start. shrugging 10lb db's.. etc etc

dont cycle yet wait it out and get a nice rehab going

you risk getting really hurt if you try to lift heavy for chest/bis/whatever when you cant deadlift/squat heavy

test does not have to be the base of any cycle btw.. just a method that works for lots of people

i would spend the money or great protein and anything that will help w/ pain and or rehab like massages etc

just give it time and then plan out a great cycle and kill it

good luck

 

[lilblitz]

dont cycle until you can lift heavy

i ruptured 2 discs in my neck.. for 3 months i couldnt lift at all. for about a year i had to go light. real light.. deadlifting the bar w/ 5lbs a side to start. shrugging 10lb db's.. etc etc

dont cycle yet wait it out and get a nice rehab going

you risk getting really hurt if you try to lift heavy for chest/bis/whatever when you cant deadlift/squat heavy

test does not have to be the base of any cycle btw.. just a method that works for lots of people

i would spend the money or great protein and anything that will help w/ pain and or rehab like massages etc

just give it time and then plan out a great cycle and kill it

good luck

Thanks for the advice, I was in two minds because you are right no heavy lifting, no great gains, thing is though I have been off for about 6 months back feels good, been back in the gym a couple of weeks heavily strapped up and with a weight belt and so far so good, chest is not an issue, bi's fine, shoulders I can get a great pump on cables, as for squats I have adopted a method of keeping a dumbell between my legs with both hands and squatting, but the main goal is the lower back, I am doing almost 250 back extensions a day that's where I want the var to kick in to help support my recovery, the doc off the record agreed it may be beneficial. Point is I started today and I am feeling excited about being back, I will take play it carefull and see how it goes. How is that neck btw? Recovery time, restrictions etc?

 

[lilblitz]

bump* anyone

 

[Rachel...lol]

I don't think running anavar or anything for that matter is appropriate.

2 yrs ago I was 7 or 8 weeks in running var - and herniated a disc and pulled a hamstring with concurrent tendinitis in my glute medius while on.

If you run var now I would think that you'll have the ability to naturally start lifting heavier with a core that can't support you in this state and you would be at greater risk of injury.

 

[Rachel...lol]

Also, I would look into additional options for functional core training. See if any of the gyms around you have a 30 minute core training class called CXWORX (I happen to have a certification in it for Gold's)

 

[Gunslinger007]

I just did a Var-only cycle: 100mg/day, for 6 weeks. It helped lean me out some, and I am about 10 lbs heavier than when I started it, with no fat gain, (and as stated, some BF% loss).

I pre-loaded Toco-8 and ran that during cycle, and retained full testicular size, HOWEVER, this sh*t wrecked my libido a few weeks in, and now 3 weeks post-cycle it is finally coming back in full effect, morning woods, etc.(thank you HCGenerate, DAA, and Formeron!)

My advice, run HCGenerate ON-CYCLE, and even post-cycle if you can afford it. I should have run it while on-cycle, but sadly I went the "cheap" route, dammit. My thought was "Its only Var" yeah, ok.

Another thing, run a hardcore Liver support formula on- and post-cycle as well. I ran Forged Liver Support, but I could feel my liver being effected still, and energy was DOWN LOW the last couple weeks of the cycle. If I had it to do over again, I would run Liv. 52 and N2Guard together. This is your liver we're talking about bro, you don't want to screw with it.

Granted, you are talking about running half the Var I was running, but also for a longer period of time, having all your support supps will only increase your energy and gainz while on.

BTW of the 10 or so pounds gained while on Var, I have lost absolutely none of it. So yes, I do still love Var.

Best to you, bro

 

[lilblitz]

Also, I would look into additional options for functional core training. See if any of the gyms around you have a 30 minute core training class called CXWORX (I happen to have a certification in it for Gold's)

Yea I bumped into a buddy of mine he is at my gym now he used to be a pro soccer player he told me about that class on tuesdays so I will give it a shot tomorrow, But also I know my limits I am only using cables and machines no free weights etc, i mean even my doc said you have to get back to training this is the next step of recovery so I am focusing on core the rest is just light stuff to get back to some sort of shape and 3 days in believe it or not up 2 lbs and feeling harder, is that even possible? How is your disc issue now btw are you back to 100 percent?

 

[lilblitz]

I just did a Var-only cycle: 100mg/day, for 6 weeks. It helped lean me out some, and I am about 10 lbs heavier than when I started it, with no fat gain, (and as stated, some BF% loss).

I pre-loaded Toco-8 and ran that during cycle, and retained full testicular size, HOWEVER, this sh*t wrecked my libido a few weeks in, and now 3 weeks post-cycle it is finally coming back in full effect, morning woods, etc.(thank you HCGenerate, DAA, and Formeron!)

My advice, run HCGenerate ON-CYCLE, and even post-cycle if you can afford it. I should have run it while on-cycle, but sadly I went the "cheap" route, dammit. My thought was "Its only Var" yeah, ok.

Another thing, run a hardcore Liver support formula on- and post-cycle as well. I ran Forged Liver Support, but I could feel my liver being effected still, and energy was DOWN LOW the last couple weeks of the cycle. If I had it to do over again, I would run Liv. 52 and N2Guard together. This is your liver we're talking about bro, you don't want to screw with it.

Granted, you are talking about running half the Var I was running, but also for a longer period of time, having all your support supps will only increase your energy and gainz while on.

BTW of the 10 or so pounds gained while on Var, I have lost absolutely none of it. So yes, I do still love Var.

Best to you, bro

Thanks for the input, I am up 2 pounds and feeling harder at day 3 could be the diet and the training but i feel good psychologically, I am feeling dizzy but when I asked others on it (same lab) they said never happened to them, weird might be unrelated. I also got some con cret creatine today I hear it works good with the var, I took a day one pic 175 lbs of wimp (6 months off will get you man) so I will take a few mid and end cycle see how I get on. If it works out good I will do another 6 week and some test prop maybe for the summer.

 

[lilblitz]

I just did a Var-only cycle: 100mg/day, for 6 weeks. It helped lean me out some, and I am about 10 lbs heavier than when I started it, with no fat gain, (and as stated, some BF% loss).

I pre-loaded Toco-8 and ran that during cycle, and retained full testicular size, HOWEVER, this sh*t wrecked my libido a few weeks in, and now 3 weeks post-cycle it is finally coming back in full effect, morning woods, etc.(thank you HCGenerate, DAA, and Formeron!)

My advice, run HCGenerate ON-CYCLE, and even post-cycle if you can afford it. I should have run it while on-cycle, but sadly I went the "cheap" route, dammit. My thought was "Its only Var" yeah, ok.

Another thing, run a hardcore Liver support formula on- and post-cycle as well. I ran Forged Liver Support, but I could feel my liver being effected still, and energy was DOWN LOW the last couple weeks of the cycle. If I had it to do over again, I would run Liv. 52 and N2Guard together. This is your liver we're talking about bro, you don't want to screw with it.

Granted, you are talking about running half the Var I was running, but also for a longer period of time, having all your support supps will only increase your energy and gainz while on.

BTW of the 10 or so pounds gained while on Var, I have lost absolutely none of it. So yes, I do still love Var.

Best to you, bro

Forgot to ask does the toco 8 really work for test levels? I m gonna grab some I think, trying to see what it is all about but all the posts on it are about freaking hairloss not test production....

For the liver I am on about a gram of milk thistle ed.

 

[Rachel...lol]

Yea I bumped into a buddy of mine he is at my gym now he used to be a pro soccer player he told me about that class on tuesdays so I will give it a shot tomorrow, But also I know my limits I am only using cables and machines no free weights etc, i mean even my doc said you have to get back to training this is the next step of recovery so I am focusing on core the rest is just light stuff to get back to some sort of shape and 3 days in believe it or not up 2 lbs and feeling harder, is that even possible? How is your disc issue now btw are you back to 100 percent?

I've had some ongoing problems - lower back pain and radiculopathy - but mine is a little complicated in that I broke my right hip several years ago, and never regained full mobility in my right hip as far as range of motion and flexibility goes, so my back has suffered as a result - I bend and twist more at the lower back rather than the hip since my hip doesn't allow the twisting ...

I had a recent visit to a PT who things I may have a tear in my hip labrum as well as a small disc herniation - and I'm supposed to get an MRI to see, but I just lost my job and hence my insurance and haven't been able to do that yet...

Also - I just wanted to mention in case nobody has told you. If you do a focused core training session - do not lift afterwards, you'd be putting yourself at risk for injury.

 

[lilblitz]

I've had some ongoing problems - lower back pain and radiculopathy - but mine is a little complicated in that I broke my right hip several years ago, and never regained full mobility in my right hip as far as range of motion and flexibility goes, so my back has suffered as a result - I bend and twist more at the lower back rather than the hip since my hip doesn't allow the twisting ...

I had a recent visit to a PT who things I may have a tear in my hip labrum as well as a small disc herniation - and I'm supposed to get an MRI to see, but I just lost my job and hence my insurance and haven't been able to do that yet...

Also - I just wanted to mention in case nobody has told you. If you do a focused core training session - do not lift afterwards, you'd be putting yourself at risk for injury.

Thanks for the advice i will make that it is my only exercise on Tuesdays, I hear you, disc issues usually arise from other issues as a precursor, in my case my inflexibility in my legs and stronger upperbody than lower meant i always deflected pressure to my lower back coupled with all the twisting from boxing took it's toll, the good news is as a female with prob far different goals you wont need to load huge weights on your body to yield results, hope your MRI comes back in good shape

 

[Gunslinger007]

Forgot to ask does the toco 8 really work for test levels? I m gonna grab some I think, trying to see what it is all about but all the posts on it are about freaking hairloss not test production....

For the liver I am on about a gram of milk thistle ed.

Here's Primordial's page on it. Complete Vitamin E - Natural source of Tocotrienols for hair loss, cardiovascular health, and testosterone production

Myself and others have noticed improved skin tone and thicker, healthier hair while on Toco-8. I can't verify the testosterone thing from my experience (didn't get any bloodwork done pre or post Var cycle) but I can tell you for sure that I lost NO size whatsoever on my testes during 6 weeks of Var. It's also good for improving Cholesterol values (in theory) so that's another plus for Toco-8 while on Var.

I run Toco-8 almost all the time, but I doubled-up on it for AAS use. It can only help.

As for liver, Milk Thistle is good, but I would get something more specific to AAS use, like Forged Liver Support, or N2Guard. Liv. 52 gets excellent reviews as well.

 

[lilblitz]

Here's Primordial's page on it. Complete Vitamin E - Natural source of Tocotrienols for hair loss, cardiovascular health, and testosterone production

Myself and others have noticed improved skin tone and thicker, healthier hair while on Toco-8. I can't verify the testosterone thing from my experience (didn't get any bloodwork done pre or post Var cycle) but I can tell you for sure that I lost NO size whatsoever on my testes during 6 weeks of Var. It's also good for improving Cholesterol values (in theory) so that's another plus for Toco-8 while on Var.

I run Toco-8 almost all the time, but I doubled-up on it for AAS use. It can only help.

As for liver, Milk Thistle is good, but I would get something more specific to AAS use, like Forged Liver Support, or N2Guard. Liv. 52 gets excellent reviews as well.

Yea it sounds good I ordered a batch of the toco last night I will give it a shot for the tests if it gets here soon I ordered some hcgenerate too, all this stuff ends up costing more than the cycle but I like trying out new products and I hear good things, they should give you a commission

 

[lilblitz]

Here's Primordial's page on it. Complete Vitamin E - Natural source of Tocotrienols for hair loss, cardiovascular health, and testosterone production

Myself and others have noticed improved skin tone and thicker, healthier hair while on Toco-8. I can't verify the testosterone thing from my experience (didn't get any bloodwork done pre or post Var cycle) but I can tell you for sure that I lost NO size whatsoever on my testes during 6 weeks of Var. It's also good for improving Cholesterol values (in theory) so that's another plus for Toco-8 while on Var.

I run Toco-8 almost all the time, but I doubled-up on it for AAS use. It can only help.

As for liver, Milk Thistle is good, but I would get something more specific to AAS use, like Forged Liver Support, or N2Guard. Liv. 52 gets excellent reviews as well.

Yea it sounds good I ordered a batch of the toco last night I will give it a shot for the tests if it gets here soon I ordered some hcgenerate too, all this stuff ends up costing more than the cycle but I like trying out new products and I hear good things.

 

[rich_89]

I cant believe you are considering aas with a ruptured disc in your spine. It's lunacy.

 

[joeblow12345]

All I will say is any steroid use requires pct. Its cheap and easy to do so why not? I know some say no need with var but I say they are playing with fire and will eventually get burned. Dont be that guy who has the natural test levels of a 12 year old girl because they listened to there buddys at the gym.


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[sickness5]

Thanks for the input, I am up 2 pounds and feeling harder at day 3 could be the diet and the training but i feel good psychologically, I am feeling dizzy but when I asked others on it (same lab) they said never happened to them, weird might be unrelated. I also got some con cret creatine today I hear it works good with the var, I took a day one pic 175 lbs of wimp (6 months off will get you man) so I will take a few mid and end cycle see how I get on. If it works out good I will do another 6 week and some test prop maybe for the summer.

Good Luck Bruh, Hope that var works out for ya. Anxious to hear how your feeling before the end. Stay strong man.

 

[lilblitz]

Good Luck Bruh, Hope that var works out for ya. Anxious to hear how your feeling before the end. Stay strong man.

Thanks man I took a before pic, week in and I am up 5 lbs and the shape is returning,I seem to be responding well, also stacking with some creatin and a hcgenerate, I'm thinking to throw some test prop in there but I don't want to over do it, test makes me aggressive which means I will want to go hard and I can't do that at this stage, I will keep you updated dude.

 

[lilblitz]

I cant believe you are considering aas with a ruptured disc in your spine. It's lunacy.

you could look at it like that or you could take the approach I did which is go through 5 months rehab with a chiro and get to the stage that resting is not helping anymore a ruptured disc is accumulative in my case weaker lower back than upper, and inflexability in the hamstrings plus a weak core, that causes you to deflect pressure to your lower back when doing physical activities that those regions cannot support and over time it will go so what is needed is to strengthen those areas I am giving the rehab some outside help I don't see how that can be a bad thing, aas are made for people who have terminal illnesses like aids where there muscles waste away, if a guy with a weak body and system can take it, why not a healthy guy with a back problem, each to his own....

 

[lilblitz]

All I will say is any steroid use requires pct. Its cheap and easy to do so why not? I know some say no need with var but I say they are playing with fire and will eventually get burned. Dont be that guy who has the natural test levels of a 12 year old girl because they listened to there buddys at the gym.


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Yea man after deliberation I decided to go with it I am on toco 8 and hcgenerate on cycle to make the pct lighter and I have some nolva on deck I will run it PC for 3 weeks, on my first ever cycle (I think it was 400mg ew) I ran test E had nothing for gino and to this day I have a little extra notch of nipple fat so live and learn. My same buddy that put on 14 lbs on var and never took pct told me today he shut down but they came back on their own, he is running another cycle same thing, higher dose 3 weeks in, I was trying to convince him to take pct because when you actually weigh up the pro's and con's it's silly not to take care of your natural test, and counter productive in the long run, it's like anything you can do a half assed job or do it right.

 

[lilblitz]

11 days in my only tip so far is do not take var before you sleep, i wake up dehidrated to th epoint of not being able to function for a couple of hours, as much as I drink I am always thirsty.

 

[OccupyMuscle]

Hello Lilblitz, I'm about to start a Var only cycle. Have never done any kind of hormones or steroids before. This thread has been invaluable. Only intend to do 20mg-40mg tapered up and down over 6 weeks max. Have bought some Liv.52 and N2Guard, HCGenerate and Toco-8 and will use all on cycle and during PCT. For PCT I have purchased some Nolva and Clomid (still a long way away,and I probably will not need the latter) but not sure how to run that. How should I run a nova/clomid cycle?

I will also take NAC & R ALA to rejuvenate liver function, and take flax seed oil for cholesterol. This probably sounds like overkill but I think its better to be safe and prepared. I have been told that creatine works well with Anavar, so shall take that on cycle.

I'm 40, 165kgs, 5'10" been training in the gym for years, but rarely make gains. Want to put on a few pounds of lean muscle and get that vascular look, nothing more. Will be running the cycle in three weeks time, during which I intend to do a lot more research. Any suggestions and help for a newbie much appreciated.

Lilblitz please keep us informed how your getting on, cheers.

 

[OccupyMuscle]

The Anavar thread
Every bodybuilding forum I attend, at least once a day people ask about anavar only PCT and every day there is a different answer or a different person flaming the thread starter. Yes, most people have already heard to start with test, or add a test base, but we all know this isn't going to sway their mind so the least we can do is offer "proper" advice so people new to the game dont go and fuck themselves up. I have read time and time again people getting shitty advice which is the dumbest shit we can do for someone asking for help.. Afterall, once they do their anavar only cycle they will be back to get advice on their next bigger one, we all just have to learn by experience.

Some anavar info taken from another forum that was helpful..

Everything you need to know about Anavar

MYTHS

Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA.
False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound.
This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14.
If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT.

Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT.
This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient.


LIBIDO

The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this.

#1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call.

#2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too .

#3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage.

BENEFITS

Anavar is a badass drug. This is why.

#1 - Vascularity
Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21.

#2 - Pumps
When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage.

#3 - Strength
Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21.

#4 - Fat Loss
Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen .

CYCLE

Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage.

[cont...]

 

[OccupyMuscle]

LIVER PROTECTION

Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid, and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most.

It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone .

1 - Milk ThistleThe classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin

2 - R ALA
A powerful antioxidant

3 - NAC
Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione

4 - Vitamin C and E
Antioxidants

5 - LOADS of water
Helps to flush out your entire system

LIPID PROTECTION

Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax...

1 - Flax Oil
Consuming lots of essential fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad.

2 - Policosanol
Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high.

3 - Niacin
Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of time



[found this on another forum but useful information about Anavar]

 

[ConanX]

Done var only cycles and other oral only cycles with NO PCT. Recovered just fine. But on one or 2 occassions recovery was a bitch. Lesson learned? Use PCT anyway.

For you with your injury, I suggest HGH. Once you're healed, then use Var. My girl is goin through the same thing. I just put her on legit HGH and she's doing wonderfully. She wanted Var but I held it back and I'm glad I did.

 

[lilblitz]

Hello Lilblitz, I'm about to start a Var only cycle. Have never done any kind of hormones or steroids before. This thread has been invaluable. Only intend to do 20mg-40mg tapered up and down over 6 weeks max. Have bought some Liv.52 and N2Guard, HCGenerate and Toco-8 and will use all on cycle and during PCT. For PCT I have purchased some Nolva and Clomid (still a long way away,and I probably will not need the latter) but not sure how to run that. How should I run a nova/clomid cycle?

I will also take NAC & R ALA to rejuvenate liver function, and take flax seed oil for cholesterol. This probably sounds like overkill but I think its better to be safe and prepared. I have been told that creatine works well with Anavar, so shall take that on cycle.

I'm 40, 165kgs, 5'10" been training in the gym for years, but rarely make gains. Want to put on a few pounds of lean muscle and get that vascular look, nothing more. Will be running the cycle in three weeks time, during which I intend to do a lot more research. Any suggestions and help for a newbie much appreciated.

Lilblitz please keep us informed how your getting on, cheers.

How's it going buddy, either you are the biggest 5'10 man on the planet or you meant 165 lbs lol Ok well I have finished 6 weeks with only about 4 days left, put on 8lbs and got leaner, and honestly I have not even been eating a great amount (I will post some pics i took a few before cycle). The only sides were dehydration, so i wouldn't take var before bed as you can't drink while asleep Liver gave me no trouble, milk thistle, plenty of water with re-hydration salts and cranberry juice sufficed. The taco 8 and hcgenerate seemed to do the trick, I have had no shrinkage and full libido, I am considering not taking the nolva or at least a low dose of it.

If you consume at least 3500-4500 calories (which is easy I get 2000 just off my gainer shakes) and up the work out routine you will get what you are after if my case is anything to go by, then again we are all different. Let us know how it goes.

 

[lilblitz]

Done var only cycles and other oral only cycles with NO PCT. Recovered just fine. But on one or 2 occassions recovery was a bitch. Lesson learned? Use PCT anyway.

For you with your injury, I suggest HGH. Once you're healed, then use Var. My girl is goin through the same thing. I just put her on legit HGH and she's doing wonderfully. She wanted Var but I held it back and I'm glad I did.

You are right man HGH was my first choice but the dose I needed for enough time to help out was running at a couple of thousand. I just had a baby girl man, it's hard to justify that right now.

On a happy note my lower back back (surrounding muscles) feel stronger than ever and as a bonus I went up about 8lbs in lean mass, so I am def an advocate for var, I'm going to run it again with some prop in a couple of months. Like you no libedo loss or shrinkage but I might run the nolva for 10-15 days at 20 mg just to say I did it I will see, got a few days left.

 

[lilblitz]

Oh and one more thing this stuff makes eating impossible I almost burst into tears when staring down at and about to embark on the 4 or 5 the meal especially if it is a bowl of tuna at 11 pm. You know the guys that make eating fun and prepare all sorts of innovative and tasty bb meals, I envy you guys where do you get the time and energy? I suppose this is of benefit to guys wanting to cut though but I have to be honest I used test only once while cutting and I know it is labeled a bulking agent but I swear test burned fat off me much more than var, var to me anyway is just a nice balanced compound for those who want a little bit of lean quality muscle with very few sides. I honestly find pct gives me more sides than the cycle but hey a necessary evil and defiantly the lesser of the two evils if your boys go offline....

 

[lilblitz]

I just realized I forgot to post the before after pics...better late than never. I am also going to run a tbol only if anyone is interested I will do a progress report on that too.

Before: Untitled-13.jpg photo by delaman1 | Photobucket

After: arms.jpg photo by delaman1 | Photobucket

Not bad I believe from 173 lbs after 6 months of bedrest to 181 in only 6 weeks of moderate training. Just imagine if my back had have been strong enough to do a situp

 

[notjake11]

This was a great thread to read ad someone one week into my own var cycle.

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[lilblitz]

This was a great thread to read ad someone one week into my own var cycle.

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Thanks buddy, the reason I wrote it is because people shut down oral only cycles and bark on about test only and so on, on one hand there is validity to that argument and on the other everybody has different needs and goals and different genetics, when a moron who has never touched the stuff says it's b.s it's nice to have actual experience from people not promoting anything, with no goal other than to help others in the forum make informed choices.

The verdict: If you are not a huge guy with fairly fresh receptors or you are an athlete looking for subtle gains var is the bomb, use it right and it should work for you, if you are 260 lbs and have receptors that wouldn't shrug their shoulders at a gram of test then yea it is a waste of time, but for us it works, sides are virtually non existent if well managed and I am a big fan. Will post a link to my tbol cycle, I plan to pick it up tomorrow.