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toolz93

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im 25 years old, 5'11, 195 lbs, 10%bf and have been lifting for about 8 years. I am planning on a cycle of anavar only. This would be my first cycle. I am just looking for a little strength, definition, and hardness and very little bulk. anyways here is what i am planning:

on cycle
Anavar- 60mg, split into two doses for 6 weeks
Unleashed- once per day to keep the natural t levels up
milk thistle- one to two times per day
Creatine
Protein
fish oils- 3g per day

post cycle
Nolvadex- 40mg for 1 week and then 20mg for 3 weeks. (also, is the generic brand sold online the same thing?)
Unleashed- once per day for 4 weeks
Milk thistle- one to two times per day
fish oils- 3g per day

How does this look?
any suggestions or comments?

thanks
 
looks fine..why no test? throw prop in 100 eod be a great cycle
 
toolz93 said:
im 25 years old, 5'11, 195 lbs, 10%bf and have been lifting for about 8 years. I am planning on a cycle of anavar only. This would be my first cycle. I am just looking for a little strength, definition, and hardness and very little bulk. anyways here is what i am planning:

on cycle
Anavar- 60mg, split into two doses for 6 weeks
Unleashed- once per day to keep the natural t levels up
milk thistle- one to two times per day
Creatine
Protein
fish oils- 3g per day

post cycle
Nolvadex- 40mg for 1 week and then 20mg for 3 weeks. (also, is the generic brand sold online the same thing?)
Unleashed- once per day for 4 weeks
Milk thistle- one to two times per day
fish oils- 3g per day

How does this look?
any suggestions or comments?

thanks
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Bro am new too into this and would like to us 40 mg of anavar

so tell me

unleashed ? whats this and for what purpose ?

and nolvadex ? for what exactly ? and are you sure for dosge 50mg u have to take it ?

what about hair loss ? whats ur protection against it ?
 
what kind of var is it.. i know the stuff i get from my dr is strong and 30mgs ed does it for me..
I run it for 8-10 weeks fine

I have run bd at 80mgs for 8 weeks too...

I would def at a low dose of test though.
 
Anavar in my opinion sucks. Didnt notice anything when I was running it with test. You should go give it to a figure competitor.
 
i dont see why low dose test is out of the equation. you should definitely see results at 60mg ED with var. i normally dont run it at 100mg ED for 6-8 weeks and have phenom results. i believe that is when the drug gets to show its true colors. the only side effects that were troubling were my lipid profiles... everything else was picture perfect. i digress... run some test.
 
Vergil said:
Anavar in my opinion sucks. Didnt notice anything when I was running it with test. You should go give it to a figure competitor.
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Welcome VERGIL. Thank you for your positive first post.:heart:

After a dozen or so successful anavar cycles, I STRONGLY disagree. IMO, anavar is the best oral steroid available...after DBOL, of course.:)
 
halfcenturian said:
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Welcome VERGIL. Thank you for your positive first post.:heart:

After a dozen or so successful anavar cycles, I STRONGLY disagree. IMO, anavar is the best oral steroid available...after DBOL, of course.:)
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Yeah, I'm sure there's no chance he got some bunk crap from some dufus in the gym.
 
halfcenturian said:
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Welcome VERGIL. Thank you for your positive first post.:heart:

After a dozen or so successful anavar cycles, I STRONGLY disagree. IMO, anavar is the best oral steroid available...after DBOL, of course.:)
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I was giving him my honest opinion. Dbol is my favorite by far. I think anavar is weak, my opinion. Oh btw, I do NOT get bad batches.
 
Looks good. 2 things id add personally:

#1- HCG ... weeks 2 - 6, just a pinch, like 200mcg a shot (twice a week)

#2- proviron ... weeks 2-6 @ 25-50mgs ed compliment the unleashed, and keep your remaining test free.

Also, take it in 3 dosages instead of 2 (8 hour half life), this way your plasma levels will remain constant and the var will be utilizing protein, rebuilding, and strengthening around the clock - during workout and recovery (which is equally important).

Best of luck, post results.

ps. Keep your diet clean and your going to be one veiny, lean, mofo!
 
i've been planning something very similar 24yo 5 11' 80kg-176lb, my plans are to use about 35mg pd, it would be my first cycle too. a lot of people have told me that a dose late in the day keeps you awake all night. i was recommended to use 10mg pd nolva as pct with primordial performances test recovery stack. i was going to double creatine intake and use some kind of liver protection as well.
 
toolz93 said:
im 25 years old, 5'11, 195 lbs, 10%bf and have been lifting for about 8 years. I am planning on a cycle of anavar only. This would be my first cycle. I am just looking for a little strength, definition, and hardness and very little bulk. anyways here is what i am planning:

on cycle
Anavar- 60mg, split into two doses for 6 weeks
Unleashed- once per day to keep the natural t levels up
milk thistle- one to two times per day
Creatine
Protein
fish oils- 3g per day

post cycle
Nolvadex- 40mg for 1 week and then 20mg for 3 weeks. (also, is the generic brand sold online the same thing?)
Unleashed- once per day for 4 weeks
Milk thistle- one to two times per day
fish oils- 3g per day

How does this look?
any suggestions or comments?

thanks
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make sure and use 40 grams of dextrose with creatine and use post training only.

mix 10 grams of whey isolate with 20 oz's of gatoraide and sip it throughout
training sessions.

use NAC and or L methionine instead of milk thistle for liver support.
( google it bro and you'll learn why )

oxandrolone is better ran at a lower dose for longer duration. this is CRUCIAL!

if you have 2500 mg's, run it at 40 mg's for 9 weeks......MUCH MUCH better
results.

fuck nolva, run clomid @ 50 mg for 3 or 4 weeks.

if your ox is real and even close to accurate dose, do what i say and you'll
benefit greatly. ( 60 mg's of real ox would BLOW your mind lol )
 
Can all the VETS and PROS come into play here and just lay down what the PROPER first cycle of Anavar should look like? I know everyone reacts different and everyones body is different. But what should a proper first anavar cycle look like? Something where everyone can say, you know what? This is a fuckin awesome first cycle. Im 24 years old, 5'7, 170 lbs, and around 13% body fat. This was my first plan .


Test E/300mg/EW/12 weeks
Var/ED/50mg/6-12

Test Recovery Stack as PCT
 
GdupM6 said:
Can all the VETS and PROS come into play here and just lay down what the PROPER first cycle of Anavar should look like? I know everyone reacts different and everyones body is different. But what should a proper first anavar cycle look like? Something where everyone can say, you know what? This is a fuckin awesome first cycle. Im 24 years old, 5'7, 170 lbs, and around 13% body fat. This was my first plan .


Test E/300mg/EW/12 weeks
Var/ED/50mg/6-12

Test Recovery Stack as PCT
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wk 1-12: 300mg Test E ew
wk 5-14: 40mg Anavar ed
wk 15-17: 50mg Clomid ed
 
Vergil said:
I was giving him my honest opinion. Dbol is my favorite by far. I think anavar is weak, my opinion. Oh btw, I do NOT get bad batches.
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VERGIL.......... Have you ever seen a grown man naked?


:FRlol: :spit: :lmao:



Just kidding, bro............. Tell us about yourself.
 
layinback said:
have you ever been in a turkish prison?:heart:
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HAHAHAHA!


"Timmy........ do you like gladiator movies?"


I piss my pants every time I see that movie, and it's like 28 years old.


"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue."





What the hell does this have to do with steroids, HC ???:kaioken:

I DO apologize. No more.


.
 
thanks for all the advice.
would the Post Cycle. Liver Recovery Agent, Anti-Catabolic And Erectile Enhancer be good to take along with the unleashed during and after an anavar only cycle?
or should it only be taken post cycle?
 
toolz93 said:
thanks for all the advice.
would the Post Cycle. Liver Recovery Agent, Anti-Catabolic And Erectile Enhancer be good to take along with the unleashed during and after an anavar only cycle?
or should it only be taken post cycle?
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No ou can take that both on or off cycle bro.
 
Anavar is great stuff. That guy that said it sux probably doesn't like it because you don't gain 20lbs of fake muscle(water) in 2 weeks like on dbol.
 
I dont think you will need Nolvadex PCT. I dont think you need to run anything with Anavar in my opinion. Just eat right and train right. Anavar is an awesome compound. I would use it only when cutting and dieting. If you are planning on gaining you are going to be disappointed and frustrated and then you might experiment with maybe D-bol or then maybe Deca. Fuck it bro, you are just going to eventually grow the balls to do a real cycle down the road so why not save your money, time and frustration now and plan a cycle involving 400mg test for 10 weeks and throw in the Anavar for the last 4-5 weeks. I can see your future now......Anavar.......hmmm I liked it but want more......I think I'll try Deca that seems safe......hmmm that was fun but I want more.......maybe I'll try Deca stacked with Winny this time.......18 months later you will be planning your 1st Test cycle so just skip the bullshit and do some Test with your Anavar for this cycle. You only get one "1st cycle" just like the first time you got laid. If you want to just shred up the current muscle base that you have I would say go for the Anavar. If you want to look at yourself in the mirror in 12 weeks and say "holy fucking shit I look good" do Test/Anavar.
 
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perryscoon said:
Anavar is great stuff. That guy that said it sux probably doesn't like it because you don't gain 20lbs of fake muscle(water) in 2 weeks like on dbol.
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The reason I dont like it is because it is a very mild steroid. I actually do not like orals that much at all, my faves are by far test prop and tren acetate.
 
toolz93 said:
if my var is the legit pharmaceutical grade will 20mg a day do it, or will that not be enough?
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If you have pure pharma Oxanadrin, 20mg will knock you into the middle of next week. Run it for 6 weeks and you will look like you had Body Liposuction.

Check with Layinback, He's the Oxan Man.
 
Vergil said:
The reason I dont like it is because it is a very mild steroid. I actually do not like orals that much at all, my faves are by far test prop and tren acetate.
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Those are actually my favorites as well. There is really no need to ever take anything else except for fun. I like to throw some var into the mix at the end for some added vascularity though. It seems to work very nicely with tren, at least for me it does.
 
Just to clarify, and I do realise layinback knows his sh*t when it comes to var - lower and longer (ie 35mg over 9 weeks) is better? Its in my next cycle
 
Looks awesome...just do Anavar only...there is nothing wrong with that...you will see good strength and keepable gains..good luck!
 
layinback said:
make sure and use 40 grams of dextrose with creatine and use post training only.

mix 10 grams of whey isolate with 20 oz's of gatoraide and sip it throughout
training sessions.

use NAC and or L methionine instead of milk thistle for liver support.
( google it bro and you'll learn why )

oxandrolone is better ran at a lower dose for longer duration. this is CRUCIAL!

if you have 2500 mg's, run it at 40 mg's for 9 weeks......MUCH MUCH better
results.

fuck nolva, run clomid @ 50 mg for 3 or 4 weeks.

if your ox is real and even close to accurate dose, do what i say and you'll
benefit greatly. ( 60 mg's of real ox would BLOW your mind lol )
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Layinback knows his var. Listen to him on this one.
 
ok so var is not pharmaceutical grade.
so should i run the normal underground lab var at 40mg for 9 weeks then?
why clomid instead of nolvadex as layinback says?
should i still supp with unleashed during the cycle of the lower dosage?
 
cobracock1979 said:
Just to clarify, and I do realise layinback knows his sh*t when it comes to var - lower and longer (ie 35mg over 9 weeks) is better? Its in my next cycle
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yep, duration is key with oxandrolone. all clinical studies run for 12 weeks.

liver issues are rarely a problem but HDL.............:(

keep an eye on your cholesterol and get blood work done.

oxandrolone IS NOT a mild steroid. it's considered mild because very few people
have actually ran more than 20 mg's a day. 7 x 20 = 140 wk. think about it....
what AAS would you get any results from if you ran it at 140 mg's a week?
oxandrin will give you strength gains, vascularity, hardness and some lean
mass at 140 a week, not very weak if you think about it. anadrol , winstrol or
dbol wouldn't do jack shit at that dose. at 40 mg's a day, i couldn't complete
my training sessions. the pumps were crippling. 30 mg's ED is all i can handle
and i'm an advanced bb'er.

UG lab anavar 100 mg's = 20 - 30 mg's real oxandrolone.
 
layinback said:
yep, duration is key with oxandrolone. all clinical studies run for 12 weeks.

liver issues are rarely a problem but HDL.............:(

keep an eye on your cholesterol and get blood work done.

oxandrolone IS NOT a mild steroid. it's considered mild because very few people
have actually ran more than 20 mg's a day. 7 x 20 = 140 wk. think about it....
what AAS would you get any results from if you ran it at 140 mg's a week?
oxandrin will give you strength gains, vascularity, hardness and some lean
mass at 140 a week, not very weak if you think about it. anadrol , winstrol or
dbol wouldn't do jack shit at that dose. at 40 mg's a day, i couldn't complete
my training sessions. the pumps were crippling. 30 mg's ED is all i can handle
and i'm an advanced bb'er.

UG lab anavar 100 mg's = 20 - 30 mg's real oxandrolone.
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I seriously suspect any UG var has ever been dosed correctly. Ever.

even UG powders are probably 70% potency or so. Manufacturers will water that shit down to make a buck. Damn chinese.
 
dabuffguy said:
I seriously suspect any UG var has ever been dosed correctly. Ever.

even UG powders are probably 70% potency or so. Manufacturers will water that shit down to make a buck. Damn chinese.
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the best UG i ever did was nutrivet. i actually posted some pics of their gear
last year. nutrivet var was real but underdosed. 80 mg's was equal to about
30 mg's of pharm. i ran it alone for 10 weeks and it was awesome.

all my gear is u.s. pharm now. test, deca and ox. pharm deca is some bad ass
shit lol. i got gyno into my third 200 mg shot!!! i've since lowered my deca and
upped my arimidex:nerd:
 
layinback said:
the best UG i ever did was nutrivet. i actually posted some pics of their gear
last year. nutrivet var was real but underdosed. 80 mg's was equal to about
30 mg's of pharm. i ran it alone for 10 weeks and it was awesome.

all my gear is u.s. pharm now. test, deca and ox. pharm deca is some bad ass
shit lol. i got gyno into my third 200 mg shot!!! i've since lowered my deca and
upped my arimidex:nerd:
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I want pharm grade stuff. I envy you;)
 
dabuffguy said:
I know, like $1500 for a little bit. lol. ridiculously expensive.


(This is not price talk for illegal drugs, so I'm not breaking the rules.)
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no no no lil bro, i mean old as in HRT! insurance covers 80% in my case.

nandrolone and testosterone are dirt cheap with or without insurance.
oxandrolone is another story. it is so expensive that without insurance
only 2% of peeps could afford it. this is a travesty because it is used in aids
wasting and a lot of those people cannot afford it. women with HIV need
it because test and deca cause virility. contrary to popular belief, oxandrolone
doesn't cause virility in women.
 
layinback said:
no no no lil bro, i mean old as in HRT! insurance covers 80% in my case.

nandrolone and testosterone are dirt cheap with or without insurance.
oxandrolone is another story. it is so expensive that without insurance
only 2% of peeps could afford it. this is a travesty because it is used in aids
wasting and a lot of those people cannot afford it. women with HIV need
it because test and deca cause virility. contrary to popular belief, oxandrolone
doesn't cause virility in women.
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I knew what you meant. Must have mis understood my mode of response.
 
Wootooom said:
60mg/ed for sure
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yep, 60 mg's of UG var. wooty i wish i had enough of my scripted var to share.
you would love it!!! you can't put on body fat while taking this shit!!! i could
eat pizza everyday on this stuff and not gain an ounce of fat.
 
layinback said:
yep, 60 mg's of UG var. wooty i wish i had enough of my scripted var to share.
you would love it!!! you can't put on body fat while taking this shit!!! i could
eat pizza everyday on this stuff and not gain an ounce of fat.
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damn you...BTG?
 
layinback said:
BTG is brand name (oxandrin) i get PAR and sometimes WATSON, same exact
thing but it's generic.
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I got to find out where they mfg. this stuff, break in through the roof at night and take me about 20,000 10mg pills. Lol, wouldn't that be so awesome to have?






(Dabuffguy is not planning on stealing anything, it was a hypothetical dream. He will go to prison for doing that and doesn't like being anusraped.)
 
halfcenturian said:
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Welcome VERGIL. Thank you for your positive first post.:heart:

After a dozen or so successful anavar cycles, I STRONGLY disagree. IMO, anavar is the best oral steroid available...after DBOL, of course.:)
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yep. combine the two and WHAMMY. You actually have a decent oral only cycle. pm if interested I have many combinations cooked up.

Creatine+Var works great, and honestly, I would reconsider the nolva. I ran my Var only cycle with only natural test boosters(ZMA ETC)+ creatine for PCT and kept all but 1 lb. Nolva had some sides for me also so Im inclined to recommend against it.
 
dabuffguy said:
I got to find out where they mfg. this stuff, break in through the roof at night and take me about 20,000 10mg pills. Lol, wouldn't that be so awesome to have?






(Dabuffguy is not planning on stealing anything, it was a hypothetical dream. He will go to prison for doing that and doesn't like being anusraped.)
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lollolollolol well if you hit the watson warehouse you have more than just ox
to steal. these guys make generic lortab, morphine, testosterone etc...
probably be better off trying to break into fort knox lol
 
layinback said:
lollolollolol well if you hit the watson warehouse you have more than just ox
to steal. these guys make generic lortab, morphine, testosterone etc...
probably be better off trying to break into fort knox lol
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what if we organized a raid :mad:
 
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