Am I right?

[RADAR]

Cool, thanks. I suppose I'll have to take it on face value. Perhaps I should skip the internet and go to the local library ... go to the chem-section and browse around there

What precisely are you looking for , the atomic structure of the molecule?

 

[Essie]

If the atomic structure would help me in answering my question, it would help. I know that test is the male type hormone, the one that causes deepening of the voice, facial hair to grow, baldness, aggression etc and that estrogen is causing more feminine effects, like growth of breast tissue, softening of the voice etc. What does Nandrolone do in the human body?

 

[Essie]

Okay ... so what I know by now is this ... Testosterone, Nandrolone and Boldenone are 3 different TYPES of hormones, but definately all hormomnes.

Nandrolone is a 19-nortestosterone, which means that it has a molecular structure similiar to Testosterone, but with a carbon atom missing at the 19th position. It doesn't convert to Estrogen as easily and is very anabolic. It is usually a good idea to stack it with some form of Test and keep in mind that it is going to take your body quite a while longer to recover from this ... thus a very aggressive PCT is advised.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It isn't just the ester. Allow me to get really UN scientific.

All steroids are based on the testosterone molecule, even Primo which doesn't have much androgenic quality at all.

Nandrolone was one of many attempts to synthesize the T molecule in a way that did not mimic it directly, but still imparted the same effects. It seemed like the perfect steroid. But as we all know, it actually is the worst of both worlds. It still suppresses but does not mimic the "good" effects of testosterone. In part, that is due to the fact that it cannot convert to DHT. DHT is what causes androgenic aide effects but it's also what provides so many of the good effects. Since deca suppresses yet does not convert to DHT, there's nothing to provide the necessary chemicals to make an erection. Thus...deca dick.

I'm surprised anyone still uses Deca. It does blow you up fast but it's mostly with water weight. it's essentially a failed experiment in the development of anabolic enhancement.

 

[Essie]

Thanks for the clarification in an UN scientific manner LOL!!!!! So you figure it best to NOT use Deca? I have been pondering using for some time now in conjunction with EQ as I have before as Deca LOVES calories, and EQ makes me as hungry as a horse. Would you recommend anything else to use in conjunction with TBol and Cyp other than Deca for decent bulk?

 

[zedhed]

HOWEVER Deca does have its uses. Such as connective tissue therapy. I dont think there is anything that tops Deca for this specific purpose according to the study that is posted somewhere on here. Ther is a hell of a lot to be said for the "theraputic (low dose) approach" with Deca. IMO...

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think the joint relief of deca is way overstated. Much of the relief comes from the water retention.

What to add for bulk? Hell, if you can't bulk on tbol and cyp, ...I don't know. Dbol will add more water than Tbol. Throw in a couple of BIG BLASTS each day. I can't imagine you not putting on size.

 

[Essie]

HOWEVER Deca does have its uses. Such as connective tissue therapy. I dont think there is anything that tops Deca for this specific purpose according to the study that is posted somewhere on here. Ther is a hell of a lot to be said for the "theraputic (low dose) approach" with Deca. IMO...

I am aware of Deca, Deca Dick, Joint Lube etc ... it is just the recovery time that worries me. And then the fact that you blow up tremendously while on it, but lose most of it when coming off ... I mean, no amount of eating and training is going to help you in turning water-weight into muscle

 

[Essie]

I think the joint relief of deca is way overstated. Much of the relief comes from the water retention.

What to add for bulk? Hell, if you can't bulk on tbol and cyp, ...I don't know. Dbol will add more water than Tbol. Throw in a couple of BIG BLASTS each day. I can't imagine you not putting on size.

For the sake of sounding daft ... what do you mean when you say "BIG BLASTS"?

 

[Nelson Montana]

For the sake of sounding daft ... what do you mean when you say "BIG BLASTS"?

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