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GoldenDelicious said:what a load of bullshit.
people are people. they act how they act. men do the same shit as women, though women tend to be more secretive and duplicitous.
if youre having man trouble and are as attractive as you say, then i say the fault isnt in the men you get with - its your choice of man.
learn to discriminate better.
also, trying not to be so annoying helps.
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i didn't one time say i was attractive you damn cheerio. I just want to find a man that sees beyond the physical part,beyond the glam the freaking boobs and tight ass and taps into the serious side of me.
is he out there?
nahhhhhh thats like finding a needle in a hay stack.
as far as my choice of men goes, there isn't a day when i leave my house on a man hunt. Not my thing, if i meet someone then fine.. if i don't the fine. I'm never out looking. I enjoy being single, well........... there are some good pts to it anyway
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actually, a few posts back you listed a number of attractive qualities, and therefore qualified yourself as an attractive prospective partner.Erzulie said:lol
i didn't one time say i was attractive you damn cheerio. I just want to find a man that sees beyond the physical part,beyond the glam the freaking boobs and tight ass and taps into the serious side of me.
is he out there?
nahhhhhh thats like finding a needle in a hay stack.
as far as my choice of men goes, there isn't a day when i leave my house on a man hunt. Not my thing, if i meet someone then fine.. if i don't the fine. I'm never out looking. I enjoy being single, well........... there are some good pts to it anyway
also, my sympathy rating dropped even lower (if there is such thing as less than zero, which is where it was in the first place) after reading your last paragraph, particularly the "there isnt a day i leave my house on a man hunt. if i meet someone then fine...if i dont, then fine" because clearly, after reading this entire, man hating, whining thread, it isnt bloody well fine - its pissing you off.
if you really give a shit and really want to do something constructive, rather than make these whiny threads, think about your current predicament and how you can remedy it - then pay the price of fixing it. reach out with your hands, grab fate by its twisted head and take control. mix with new people in environments that likely harbour decent prospective partners. present yourself in such a way that would be conducive to decent ralations with these people. no one told you to be a ditz out on a manhunt, or go to a speed dating convention filled with elimidate rejects (although speed dating in big cities is a fairly viable option for tweenagers imo) but for goodness sake try to influence your situation rationally, and positively.
i strongly believe that finding a good mate is one of the most important things you can do, and cant believe that people dont take it seriously. i see highly successful professionals out in bars approaching prospective partners with a tenth of the acumen they show when it comes to amassing money. its crazy.
...then again, if everyone was as clicky as me, i wouldnt have a trail of sexy teenagers in my lovelife, so....i guess its alright
oh, almost forgot...
...cheerios
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I hate you Kenny.
GoldenDelicious said:actually, a few posts back you listed a number of attractive qualities, and therefore qualified yourself as an attractive prospective partner.
also, my sympathy rating dropped even lower (if there is such thing as less than zero, which is where it was in the first place) after reading your last paragraph, particularly the "there isnt a day i leave my house on a man hunt. if i meet someone then fine...if i dont, then fine" because clearly, after reading this entire, man hating, whining thread, it isnt bloody well fine - its pissing you off.
if you really give a shit and really want to do something constructive, rather than make these whiny threads, think about your current predicament and how you can remedy it - then pay the price of fixing it. reach out with your hands, grab fate by its twisted head and take control. mix with new people in environments that likely harbour decent prospective partners. present yourself in such a way that would be conducive to decent ralations with these people. no one told you to be a ditz out on a manhunt, or go to a speed dating convention filled with elimidate rejects (although speed dating in big cities is a fairly viable option for tweenagers imo) but for goodness sake try to influence your situation rationally, and positively.
i strongly believe that finding a good mate is one of the most important things you can do, and cant believe that people dont take it seriously. i see highly successful professionals out in bars approaching prospective partners with a tenth of the acumen they show when it comes to amassing money. its crazy.
...then again, if everyone was as clicky as me, i wouldnt have a trail of sexy teenagers in my lovelife, so....i guess its alright
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UI've done the whole going out dating thing, have been pursued a time or two, but finding some guy in a bar isn't my thing. When im at the gym, im there to train not to hook up. Other than the gym, i don't do a damn thing. maybe i need to get out more? I dunno.. its not high on my list of things to do right now.
I actually have a mate right now sugar plum, but my twisted mind is looking for a reason to drop him quick. Why? hell I dunno. I have admitted time and time again that Im a very closed off person. Have walls built up around me, have been this way for years. If you can pick a flaw that I have that would be my major. He's damn near perfect, treats me great, gives me my space.. all that good stuff you look for in a person. YET, im trying to find a reason to get the fuck out of dodge.
yea yea.. come on slam me.. im ready.
ok... this is so off topic
i quit, i submit
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i told you im not interested, erzoolie, sheesh, quit already, im embarrassed for youErzulie said:yea yea.. come on slam me.. im ready.
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waterworks dont work on me, sistaErzulie said:but .. but..
i saw your videos by the way, and got a bit confused...i thought..."why are they video taping her warming up? when is she going to put some weight on the bar?"
but i guess you guys do things differently over there. oh well
GoldenDelicious said:waterworks dont work on me, sista
i saw your videos by the way, and got a bit confused...i thought..."why are they video taping her warming up? when is she going to put some weight on the bar?"
but i guess you guys do things differently over there. oh well
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you lil bitch
you are so lucky i can't reach out and touch you right now.
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I bet most of you women wouldnt give two shits whether he lied to you or not if he had a big fat bank account.
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well i guess we women come in all shapes, and forms.. but a bank account has nothing to do with how i feel about a person. I've been independant since i was a teen, and i will remain that way until im 6' under. Money is just an object, not something ill ever revolve my life around.
All i want out of a man is honesty, loyalty, someone who can listen but also trusts me. Gives me my space, and takes his own time to do his thing. Not someone who is clingy or obsessive. I want a partner, not a daddy. Someone who shares my interests, and I share his. We can talk and laugh or spend an entire night in silence and still have a wonderful evening.
damn...
Let me guess. You lost on the Fifth Wheel again, eh?Erzulie said:well i guess we women come in all shapes, and forms.. but a bank account has nothing to do with how i feel about a person. I've been independant since i was a teen, and i will remain that way until im 6' under. Money is just an object, not something ill ever revolve my life around.
All i want out of a man is honesty, loyalty, someone who can listen but also trusts me. Gives me my space, and takes his own time to do his thing. Not someone who is clingy or obsessive. I want a partner, not a daddy. Someone who shares my interests, and I share his. We can talk and laugh or spend an entire night in silence and still have a wonderful evening.
damn...
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Erzulie said:well i guess we women come in all shapes, and forms.. but a bank account has nothing to do with how i feel about a person. I've been independant since i was a teen, and i will remain that way until im 6' under. Money is just an object, not something ill ever revolve my life around.
All i want out of a man is honesty, loyalty, someone who can listen but also trusts me. Gives me my space, and takes his own time to do his thing. Not someone who is clingy or obsessive. I want a partner, not a daddy. Someone who shares my interests, and I share his. We can talk and laugh or spend an entire night in silence and still have a wonderful evening.
damn...
You know I thought I shared the exact same thing with my ex, but once my money went so did she. So is it right for me to generalise all women as money hungry bitches? I dont think so.
Im now involved with someone who is all those characteristics you mentioned. Its not right for you to generalise men as pigs, liars etc. My parents raised me much better than that.
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see how you used the word 'touch' and not 'hit'?Erzulie said:lol
you lil bitch
you are so lucky i can't reach out and touch you right now.
you want me baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
...eh. git in line wit' the rest of em
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honestly hun, i don't. I appreciate men more than i ever say. I don't give credit where credit is due. I've had my fair share of assholes of course, but ive learned to pick thru the herd and can point them out quickly. I've actually been blessed in my life with some good quality men.. yet i can say at my own fault i've walked away from what may have been good relationships due to my fear of commitment... or even just fear of breaking the wall down around me. I'm by far not a jealous person, I HATE jealousy. It was the demise of my 11 year relationship with my X husband.
Ive no problem with putting forth all my faults.. one which is letting my guard down and not questioning why 'he's' attracted to me. I always think there is some ulterior motive. Then, like now, i shut down.. clam up and walk away.
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theoak01 said:
Visa-versa pow, im sick of girls treating nice guys like shit. Sometimes I do wonder if that whole "nice guys finished last" is true.
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Destroyer1986* said:
You are very wrong sir.
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BIKINIMOM said:
Sure sure, read my next post sunshine.
I never got down with the whole men vs. women line of thinking or the man-bashing that so regularly goes on within groups of women, or with the generalizations based solely on gender. I find that these generalizations are, at best, very fucking far-fetched and are derived only from our own experiences which, in the grand scheme of things in this world, are miniscule. so lets stop making judgements about entire gender groups just because we have personally experienced a few bad situations. it's so illogical to think in that way. do you know how many men there are in the world???
i think women need to be more aware of a) what they want and b) who they are looking to get it from. we always want to blame the other person, when i reality, we picked them. they were not forced upon us. i have had a few really bad relationships with people who were complete morons and losers but if I were to blame anyone, I blame myself for being stupid enough to enter into relationships with these people.
i think women need to be more aware of a) what they want and b) who they are looking to get it from. we always want to blame the other person, when i reality, we picked them. they were not forced upon us. i have had a few really bad relationships with people who were complete morons and losers but if I were to blame anyone, I blame myself for being stupid enough to enter into relationships with these people.
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Smurfy said:
^^ Ahem bingo, couldnt of said it much better myself.
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Erzulie said:
You say you've got a GREAT guy but are just itching for an excuse to get out of dodge. Sounds to me that you are so comfortable with being abused anything else will not do - IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE.
You are going to be in control now, aren't you? YOU are going to be the one to say who gets hurt and when and how. YOU are going to be the one to do shit to end the relationship. Not going to be sitting around long enough on this (or any) good guy long enough to wait for the other shoe to drop... are you?
Still used to being treated poorly.... and seeking more of the same, eh?
I see so much of myself in you - it is scary.
The difference is - I have done the work to make some changes from the inside. Hard to face your demons. I had to lose it all TWICE before I put myself back in therapy. If I am such a nice person who never hurt anyone then why in the hell does all this bad shit keep happening? (I mean for real bad shit) Thought I was being made to suffer for sins of a past life which led to some extremely despondent thinking. Then Wodin answered a question for me about karma and it was the beginning to helping me change my thinking.
Interesting chain of events and people that I ALLOWED into my life helped me arrive at where I am today, which is just scratching the surface of who I would like to become.
This holds true with every relationship - male/female - friend/lover/ - in my professional as well as personal life.
I want you to think long and hard.
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WERD
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Destroyer1986* said:
It turns my stomach when a person of any gender returns kindness with insensitivity and cruelty.
Once a nice guy finds a quality girl (which can not be surmised in the beginning) then he should treat her well. A nice girl who is not into self-destruction will NEVER tolerate being treated badly. They will walk away... THAT IS THE GIRL THAT YOUR TREAT LIKE A QUEEN.
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DZLS said:
i kid...
That was TOTALLY unfunny.
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BIKINIMOM said:
I also agree with this, Eruzlie sounds like you're going to have a hard time finding a life long partner, because seems like you are looking for a toy boy. Someone who will listen to your every order yet you take no consideration about his feelings or his needs.
You dont want to change a thing about yourself thats fine, but dont try and enforce the exact opposite on someone else. Even if you manage too he is going to wake up one day realising what you have done or tried to enstill upon him.
Then thats when your generalisation of all men being pigs comes from.
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Nothing wrong with a boy toy (as long as everyone KNOWS what is going on). Should have a "relationship" or two or how ever many you need before you realize that it is empty and gets old real quick.
It is about something way deeper than that.
It is about breaking old patterns and delving into something totally new - something really scary and uncomfortable. The notion of being happy and getting everything that we could have ever dreamed of.
For those of you who have never been abused it is hard to fathom this concept, thank goodness. But for those of us who have been subjected to this type of treatment since we were kids it is our reality. First we spend a great deal of our lives gravitating towards abuse because we dont know any other way. Then when we get tired of it we seem to spend the next part of our lives understanding how to identify and stay away. This still isnt enough for us though to have the tools to identify and STAY in a good relationship (this holds true with ALL relationships - even family).
It is downright terrifying to put your golden heart on the line. We are so used to being controlled, manipulated, treated like shit that any other treatment is foreign so we get scared and either run or do things on purpose to fuck the relationship up. When we put it out there for people that will eventually abuse us in one form or another at least the outcome will be predictable, so we are in our comfort zone.
I know this seems sooooooooooooooooo dumb but it is 100% true.
The change can only come from within and the work is damned hard. Getting rid of the negative influences only did so much. I was utterly alone in this life and that hurt a great deal. I am pushing 40 and it is only now for the first time that I have become "unafraid" enough to allow QUALITY people into my life. I still act "dumb" from time to time and when I get these "dumb thoughts" I email or call a dear friend or my sister and they hit me upside the head and say, "SNAP OUT OF IT!" LOL Like that scene from Moonstruck where Nicolas Cage confesses to Cher that he loves her!
It is about something way deeper than that.
It is about breaking old patterns and delving into something totally new - something really scary and uncomfortable. The notion of being happy and getting everything that we could have ever dreamed of.
For those of you who have never been abused it is hard to fathom this concept, thank goodness. But for those of us who have been subjected to this type of treatment since we were kids it is our reality. First we spend a great deal of our lives gravitating towards abuse because we dont know any other way. Then when we get tired of it we seem to spend the next part of our lives understanding how to identify and stay away. This still isnt enough for us though to have the tools to identify and STAY in a good relationship (this holds true with ALL relationships - even family).
It is downright terrifying to put your golden heart on the line. We are so used to being controlled, manipulated, treated like shit that any other treatment is foreign so we get scared and either run or do things on purpose to fuck the relationship up. When we put it out there for people that will eventually abuse us in one form or another at least the outcome will be predictable, so we are in our comfort zone.
I know this seems sooooooooooooooooo dumb but it is 100% true.
The change can only come from within and the work is damned hard. Getting rid of the negative influences only did so much. I was utterly alone in this life and that hurt a great deal. I am pushing 40 and it is only now for the first time that I have become "unafraid" enough to allow QUALITY people into my life. I still act "dumb" from time to time and when I get these "dumb thoughts" I email or call a dear friend or my sister and they hit me upside the head and say, "SNAP OUT OF IT!" LOL Like that scene from Moonstruck where Nicolas Cage confesses to Cher that he loves her!
BIKINIMOM said:
I've NEVER been abused in a relationship. NEVER! Its not even about that.. more of just who I am, wanting someone to be more assertive. I need to be told NO every now and again. lol
Sure, i had a fucked up childhood.. i've since moved on and made some drastic changes in my life too. I still however have a very kind heart and maybe go to extremes to help people when i shouldn't. I can honestly say thats something in my life that i have to reevaluate.
Abuse I won't tolerate, never have, never will.
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Erzulie said:
Darlin' abuse doesnt mean a man has to hit you.
I also used to LOVE to be "put in my place". Not anymore... I like it much better when a man is kind and gentle. I like DECIDING where my place is now and have no desire to be "put there".
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I can relate to alot of this, on a childhood level. Those that know me, know I am a very strong willed independant woman. I still however allow family to take advantage of me, which in some way is abuse. No man in my life has ever hurt me. Maybe its just me not allowing 'him' in even deep enough to do so. The minute i feel the slightest tingle of vulnerablilty, i close myself down quicker than GD strikes a pose when he see's his reflection.
If i had to find my biggest flaw, I'd have to say it would be that.
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Erzulie said:
It is very safe to never allow someone that close to you. But it is VERY lonely...
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Oh, believe me I know what abuse is. I stopped allowing it the day I turned 17 and i've never looked back. I however want a man with a back bone. Not someone who will 'put me in my place.. so to say' but sure as hell not someone that will be at my beckon call when i say jump.
I think we are on different pages, I was with my X for 11 years, he was a great husband. He was very kind and gentle, but the one thing i wouldn't tolerate he was obsessed with.
Abuse can be catorgized on so many levels. I've dealt with it in my lifetime, more than i'd even care to admit. Even to this day i allow it, not too proud to say that either. When it comes to family i tend to do more than i should and get burned more than i ever thought possible.
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id like to put you all in my place.
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Erzulie said:
So you divorced your ex because he was obsessed with being kind and gentle towards you? Or for other reasons?
Smurfy said:
Well said.
If I was not comfortable with being in a relationship and constantly looking for any reason to get out, then maybe that's a sign I shouldn't be in one. If I was in an unhealthy situation, especially more than once, then that's a sign I need to look in the mirror long and hard and point at the person standing there . . . not an entire sex or men in my area. I would take some time, weeks, months, a year or more and focus on me. If I am as strong and independent as I claim to be, it shouldn't be a problem to take a long break, be single and love me (and stop generalizing and hating others). Like BM said, make the changes from the inside out.
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So lying with an expensive watch on his wrist makes it more acceptable for us women? What a dumbass comment if I ever saw one.
Lying is wrong, whether coming from a man or a woman. It sucks and the person on the receiving end doesn't deserve it. If you can't be honest, then it's a deep-seated issue you have and you need to get a backbone, some integrity, then consider a relationship. Displacing your insecurity onto someone else because you can't tell the truth is a waste of that person's time. Trying to justify lying is even more pathetic, or blaming the person you lied to for lying. Say what you gotta say, whether you think the other person will like it or not, and then you can go to sleep knowing you're not a pathetic coward.
Erzulie hun, you're not a loser by any means. I think you just need to find someone who shares your values, then you won't have these issues.
jujubes said:So lying with an expensive watch on his wrist makes it more acceptable for us women? What a dumbass comment if I ever saw one.
Lying is wrong, whether coming from a man or a woman. It sucks and the person on the receiving end doesn't deserve it. If you can't be honest, then it's a deep-seated issue you have and you need to get a backbone, some integrity, then consider a relationship. Displacing your insecurity onto someone else because you can't tell the truth is a waste of that person's time. Trying to justify lying is even more pathetic, or blaming the person you lied to for lying. Say what you gotta say, whether you think the other person will like it or not, and then you can go to sleep knowing you're not a pathetic coward.
Erzulie hun, you're not a loser by any means. I think you just need to find someone who shares your values, then you won't have these issues.
So should you tell her the reason you won't go down on her is because it doesn't smell good down there? Or should you lie to avoid hurting her feelings?
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biteme said:So should you tell her the reason you won't go down on her is because it doesn't smell good down there? Or should you lie to avoid hurting her feelings?
I am not a guy and have only been down once. She was very sweaty from dancing but still she tasted SWEET, so I guess my take is BEYOND limited rendering perhaps, somewhat invalid.
But being the owner of a pussy and having several female children I have NEVER had an odor, nor have they.
I should think these females have some hygiene issues. Why would you want to date such an individual on a regular basis?
ONCE I went down on a guy who smelled like a fucking footlocker - He smelled and tasted like ASS, pure and simple. I didn't feel the need to have to tell him thing one because we never ever saw each other thereafter.
biteme said:So should you tell her the reason you won't go down on her is because it doesn't smell good down there? Or should you lie to avoid hurting her feelings?
I don't think that's the kind of lying Erzulie is referring to, but since you asked, if you're having a hygiene problem in your relationship, then it's probably a good thing to address it. How you address it is probably the deciding factor on how she deals with it. The other option is don't go down on her.
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Remember that the next time your boyfriend tells you it isn't your jeans making your ass look fat.jujubes said:So lying with an expensive watch on his wrist makes it more acceptable for us women? What a dumbass comment if I ever saw one.
Lying is wrong, whether coming from a man or a woman. It sucks and the person on the receiving end doesn't deserve it. If you can't be honest, then it's a deep-seated issue you have and you need to get a backbone, some integrity, then consider a relationship. Displacing your insecurity onto someone else because you can't tell the truth is a waste of that person's time. Trying to justify lying is even more pathetic, or blaming the person you lied to for lying. Say what you gotta say, whether you think the other person will like it or not, and then you can go to sleep knowing you're not a pathetic coward.
Erzulie hun, you're not a loser by any means. I think you just need to find someone who shares your values, then you won't have these issues.
BTW, erzulie may not be a loser now but she sure as hell will be when I make her tap out.
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jujubes said:Erzulie hun, you're not a loser by any means. I think you just need to find someone who shares your values, then you won't have these issues.
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Erzulie said:
O really?...and how many women have you dated?
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JavaGuru said:
My mirror works just fine. I have never understood why some women feel the need to do this to a guy.
There is no "right" answer. Poor bastard is damend. May as well just shoot himself in the head right there on the spot.
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KaitlinJRob1982 said:
No...we're just honest with our lies, women arn't
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dutchman063 said:
Supports my theory.
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I seriously think Erzulie/BeachedWhale/Bikinimom/Frisky/Werd are the same person after reading this thread.
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BUBBLES said:Reading this website drained me of all my energy and I am deeply hurt.
**sob** **sob**
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good, now show us your vagina
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BrothaBill said:
I agree, the similarities are almost eerie - HOWEVER
Nope - Erzulie/Frisky has a DYNAMITE physique.
bikinimom/Beached Whale/Werd/BIKINIMOM - Me, My body is just a mere shell of my former self. *sniff*
She has a job.
Me, I am kept.
Her ex seems to not be all up in her business thus allowing her a life.
My ex will never ever ever fucking die.
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hotzie said:
ah, yes, this is completely true
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BIKINIMOM said:I agree, the similarities are almost eerie - HOWEVER
Nope - Erzulie/Frisky has a DYNAMITE physique.
bikinimom/Beached Whale/Werd/BIKINIMOM - Me, My body is just a mere shell of my former self. *sniff*
She has a job.
Me, I am kept.
Her ex seems to not be all up in her business thus allowing her a life.
My ex will never ever ever fucking die.
Well of course you two arent going to drive the same color car, if you are in fact two different people.
Just VERY EERY as you said given, if you both had the same user title, you couldnt tell a difference in you two posting
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During WWII the NKVD preferred female torturer's as they were considered more callous. A study found women are better liars as they exhibit substantially less of the body language signals of deceit; The researcher's conclusion was this was due to the fact women were more practiced at lying or rationalize their lying to the point they convince themselves it's true.
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and let us never forget it.women can lie cycles around men.JavaGuru said:
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JavaGuru said:
There is a huge continuum of personality traits and they are across both genders.
Cause bitches is scandalousJavaGuru said:
Crap I need to edit my post I forgot the bit about us being gold diggersJavaGuru said:This is a thread of broad generalizations, which is why I posted this. BTW, all women are scandalous gold diggers...
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JavaGuru said:This is a thread of broad generalizations, which is why I posted this. BTW, all women are scandalous gold diggers...
lol, so you decided to check your logic at the door
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JavaGuru said:We are dealing with women...so logic is automatically checked at the door. My favorite line from the show Coach, "Christine, you're an intelligent person but you're also a woman and sometimes those things just fight each other!"
I was going to say all women make global generalizations but then I thought for a minute....hmmmmm
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BrothaBill said:
One dead give away as to who is posting regardless of screen name.
She is NOT stricken with a bad case of EF Tourettes!
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superqt4u2nv said:Crap I need to edit my post I forgot the bit about us being gold diggers
*raises hand*
Guilty as charged.
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Ahhhh my dear friendz yet another example of a problem corrected by using a slightly forcefull penetration anally by a male. It will reagain all respect again......The whole thing must be inserted until feelings are reversed...yes all of it.....Insurance not excepted for cure but cash is appreciated or a blowjob.....
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Isn't there some guy out there that will take care of Frisky like she needs so we don't lose another woman to the "Dark Side"???
This is def very sad.
This is def very sad.
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theoak01 said:
I can't promise anything bro, but I'll do my best.
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theoak01 said:
lol! Too cold up here for her. Her blood would freeze and she'd break.
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theoak01 said:
kitchen, bedroom, shower....it's all good
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theoak01 said:
You have 4 days to visit Frisky, the 26th of Feb, to the 1st of March but come the evening of the 1st you should probably be gone, I can't promise protection from 5000 miles away.
