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RADAR said:
Weight gains are very gradual expect only a pound or two each week after a while it kind o levels off ,B ut! that doesn't mean it's not working...I gained another 2 pounds after 3 weeks of sarms. its a definete builder of deep sketelal muscle tissue.
RADAR
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Good stuff! thanks bro! I start on monday. Getting excited!
 
Just wrapped up 4 weeks of SARMS S4. I have been off for 2 weeks. Body recomposition is still amazing. I will definitely run a summer cycle of SARMS.
No nagging injuries and seem to be holding on to my gains. No big crash at all. I do not think it is surpressive at all. I need to have my routine blood check soon so I will report back on my test level. My doc only orders total level (not free test) but that will tell me if I am surpressed.
Experienced 2 sides:
- Night vision was slightly impaired. Ajusting from light to dark was challenging and lights appear to be yellow tinted at 50mg ED. Cutting back down to 50mg ED / 5 days per week dramatically reduced this side.
- Back pumps. Only toward week 4 and only bad for 4 days.
 
I hae a dr's appoinment this week so Bloodwork will be done, and for the record i'm still running sarms 5on 2 off,so far so good.


RADAR
 
Hey RADAR, how many total weeks are you going to run sarms? Are you going to be looking at your bloodwork test results to help drive out a duration decision? If yes, what will you be looking at as decision points in your blood work? Sorry for all the questions and I do appreciate your log and all you do for us here at EF!
 
doublebicep said:
Hey RADAR, how many total weeks are you going to run sarms? Are you going to be looking at your bloodwork test results to help drive out a duration decision? If yes, what will you be looking at as decision points in your blood work? Sorry for all the questions and I do appreciate your log and all you do for us here at EF!
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Regardless after bloodwork i'll probably stop the sarms ,and start gearing up for my Dbol summer run.Honestly i don't know what to expect with bloodwork or what the Dr might find?
Thanks for the kind comments

RADAR
 
Another Update-Been off SARMS for 2 weeks now and I am dry like i'm taking Arimidex.This is a good thing i guess as it is still continuing to keep Back acne at bay. Bloodwork should follow next week


RADAR
 
Bloodwork has been done, i guess it is my age as it seems SARMS is slightly suppressive at my age my blood/test levels were around 178ng/d,have stopped sarms and new progressed on with my Dbol cycle This will be ran alone or i may add several goodies down the road.
 
Just, to mention no problems running this compound and to this day the acne has not returned,that is a bonus itself,been thinking about jumps starting my Dbol cycle with it,By The way last run was 12 week ,no sides except it did dry me out good,now that i have it in my system i may do another run for about 6 weeks.Decisions,decisions...........
 
RADAR said:
Just, to mention no problems running this compound and to this day the acne has not returned,that is a bonus itself,been thinking about jumps starting my Dbol cycle with it,By The way last run was 12 week ,no sides except it did dry me out good,now that i have it in my system i may do another run for about 6 weeks.Decisions,decisions...........
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so is sarms s4 best in pct or used as a bridge up till next cycle for 4-8 weeks?
 
Great log - especially from my perspective since I've had glaucoma since I was 16. Good to see you had no major eye-related sides.
 
Well i broke down 3 days ago and started another SARMS cycle, couldn't stand stareing at that bottle, will probably run this 6-8 wks .
Already into the dbol cycle so maybe this will lean me out some.
 
RADAR said:
Well i broke down 3 days ago and started another SARMS cycle, couldn't stand stareing at that bottle, will probably run this 6-8 wks .
Already into the dbol cycle so maybe this will lean me out some.
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I wouldn't have been able to hold out either!
 
Finished Week one on Sarms going into week two, Today i felt like no matter how hard i trained i couldn't get a pump, came home after blasting in the gym and after taking my shirt off ,i looked in the mirror and said Woah!I think the Sarms is giving the dbol a dry look. either way i'm a happy camper :)
 
Oh i cant wait! I order mine should be by Friday. Just wish i could work legs, still another 6 months before I can do any serious legs.
Radar thanks for all the info and the great log.
 
goin on 4T said:
Oh i cant wait! I order mine should be by Friday. Just wish i could work legs, still another 6 months before I can do any serious legs.
Radar thanks for all the info and the great log.
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Glad to be of help, since this compound is new i feel it is my duty to let everyone know the pros and cons if any should arise.
 
RADAR said:
Finished Week one on Sarms going into week two, Today i felt like no matter how hard i trained i couldn't get a pump, came home after blasting in the gym and after taking my shirt off ,i looked in the mirror and said Woah!I think the Sarms is giving the dbol a dry look. either way i'm a happy camper :)
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Yup, I love this stuff too!!! It takes me forever to bust through plateaus (probably a big part due to lack of proper knowledge and technique) but after only 2 weeks of sarms I can't get tired and I am no longer frustrated with trying to push more weight.
 
BLM Shot said:
Yup, I love this stuff too!!! It takes me forever to bust through plateaus (probably a big part due to lack of proper knowledge and technique) but after only 2 weeks of sarms I can't get tired and I am no longer frustrated with trying to push more weight.
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yep, same for me.
 
After reading this log, I'm sold on SARMS...I'm going to run it in my PCT of my Test/Primo and up until I start my Cutter cycle, which will be about 8 weeks from the end of my PCT. Then take 4 weeks off and pick it back up for the last 4 weeks of my cutting cycle, which will put me at my Contest date!~
 
Great log....good job at keeping this detailed Radar

I have a few questions though:

1- Is it used on cycle or PCT?
2- Is it liver toxic?
3- What can it be stacked with?
4- What are the benefits?
5- sides?

Ok more like a summary :p
 
the_alcatraz said:
Great log....good job at keeping this detailed Radar

I have a few questions though:

1- Is it used on cycle or PCT?
2- Is it liver toxic?
3- What can it be stacked with?
4- What are the benefits?
5- sides?

Ok more like a summary :p
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Thanks!

1- To me its slightly suppressive, it could be age dependent tho, Great for a bridge or as a cycle running a compound, highly recommended if you compete
2-NO
3-Anything
4-kills acne, taken over a peroid of a few weeks it will completely change the body's composition.A feeling of being on cycle while off. faster recovery/endurance
5- receptors in the eye have to adjust to dark and light changes for a longer peroid if dosages are too high,lights are yellow at night (dose related)
 
RADAR said:
Thanks!

1- To me its slightly suppressive, it could be age dependent tho, Great for a bridge or as a cycle running a compound, highly recommended if you compete
2-NO
3-Anything
4-kills acne, taken over a peroid of a few weeks it will completely change the body's composition.A feeling of being on cycle while off. faster recovery/endurance
5- receptors in the eye have to adjust to dark and light changes for a longer peroid if dosages are too high,lights are yellow at night (dose related)
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Does it have any effect on strength? aggression? appetite?
 
Answering your question on Strength, You are lifting as much off cycle as you would on cycle, so yes strength is up there Plus it fills the muscle out nicely.
 
OK starting SARMS with my PCT now A week since my last Test E shot and 3 days since my last winny shot. Going to use this as a bridge. I am running PCT but I am on 4 iu's of GH while I was on the cycle before and after. Hopefully this helps me keep the gains. I am excited can't wait to lose the Test bloat.
 
Ready Your God For Blood said:
OK starting SARMS with my PCT now A week since my last Test E shot and 3 days since my last winny shot. Going to use this as a bridge. I am running PCT but I am on 4 iu's of GH while I was on the cycle before and after. Hopefully this helps me keep the gains. I am excited can't wait to lose the Test bloat.
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It will work on that bloat
 
Seeing as I am using this as a bridge I am shocked at how good my lifts have been not only am I maintaining but I am continuing to gain. IT has also sucked all the water weight of me from the test. IT is awesome and inexpensive
 
Ready Your God For Blood said:
Seeing as I am using this as a bridge I am shocked at how good my lifts have been not only am I maintaining but I am continuing to gain. IT has also sucked all the water weight of me from the test. IT is awesome and inexpensive
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very nice! Yeah, the price is pretty cheap when you consider that you get 8 weeks worth.
 
Heres another update....This is crazy, Everytime i get a haircut ,over my ears i have these Grey racing stripes, Had them for Years,Its hair cut time again............They are gone.
so does sarms stimulate FSH? looks like it!
 
RADAR said:
Heres another update....This is crazy, Everytime i get a haircut ,over my ears i have these Grey racing stripes, Had them for Years,Its hair cut time again............They are gone.
so does sarms stimulate FSH? looks like it!
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FSH?

GRATS man! I know how the Grey feels!

But WTF!?!? does this mean I can reverse my greying!?!?

Now to find something like SARMS that will regrow my thinning old man hair!! hahah
 
Hey Radar, I just had a blood test today, and I asked for a hormone profile (I'm 37 and haven't had one in two years) and they did it. I should have the results by next week. I'm 2 weeks into sarms and Unleashed "active recovery" and 3 weeks 1 day since my last Test E shot (12 week 500mg) which was only 125mg (my 10ml vial turned out to be about 9ml, boo). I feel fantastic and feel like I have recovered some already (balls have dropped, sex drive is still strong, etc). I'll be interested to see what my levels come back at.
 
d_rson said:
Hey Radar, I just had a blood test today, and I asked for a hormone profile (I'm 37 and haven't had one in two years) and they did it. I should have the results by next week. I'm 2 weeks into sarms and Unleashed "active recovery" and 3 weeks 1 day since my last Test E shot (12 week 500mg) which was only 125mg (my 10ml vial turned out to be about 9ml, boo). I feel fantastic and feel like I have recovered some already (balls have dropped, sex drive is still strong, etc). I'll be interested to see what my levels come back at.
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Be sure to post em up I would be interested in taking a look.
 
if it bothers you,then stop for a few days , then do 5 days on 2 off,Thats what i did.
 
RADAR said:
HGH(human growth hormone) IGF (insulin Growth Factor) a host of other compounds such as SARMS-4 all are a part of peptides designed for a different purpose.
RADAR
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I wouldn't call sarms s4 a peptide, a peptide is chain of amino acids. n-c-c
 
bushin said:
I wouldn't call sarms s4 a peptide, a peptide is chain of amino acids. n-c-c
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(sigh) I know I discovered that a few weeks before the product came out, i went back and changed it,so everybody can be happy!:)

:smash:
 
d_rson said:
Hey Radar, I just had a blood test today, and I asked for a hormone profile (I'm 37 and haven't had one in two years) and they did it. I should have the results by next week. I'm 2 weeks into sarms and Unleashed "active recovery" and 3 weeks 1 day since my last Test E shot (12 week 500mg) which was only 125mg (my 10ml vial turned out to be about 9ml, boo). I feel fantastic and feel like I have recovered some already (balls have dropped, sex drive is still strong, etc). I'll be interested to see what my levels come back at.
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Okay, I just finished a 12 week 500mg Test E/50mg Proviron/ last 6 weeks 40mg var cycle. I used 250iu twice a week of HCG from week 5 up to the last week of pins, and last week of pins I used 500iu three times. I'm 3.5 weeks since last pin of 125mg Test E (my 10ml vial was only 9ml :(), 3 weeks since last dose of var, 2.5 weeks into 50mg Sarms and 6 caps unleashed (active recovery).

My total test level from Friday's blood test is 580 ng/dL (I'm 37).

Thoughts?
 
The range for "normal" testosterone levels is very large/wide because it is covering males between the age of 14-90+. The "normal" range is 249-1149 for total testosterone, but where a male falls in that range and what is "normal" for him depends on his age. For men between the ages of 36-40, the normal, healthy total testosterone level is 650-700, but at 38, as long as you aren't falling below 600, you should be fine. Some docs will tell you to look at your "free" testosterone where sex drive is concerned, which is true, but if your total testosterone is falling below where your normal range is, then your body will dip into the free testosterone for things like energy levels, metabolism, muscle health, joint health/function, heart health, mood, etc. These are all of the things that testosterone is responsible for, in addition to sex drive and erectile function. The idea is really to have BOTH levels where they should be, but if you are going to put more weight on either, look at your total testosterone. This is truly what governs everything, and leaves the rest open and available for sex drive and erectile function.

 
do u guys do 2times 0,25ml a day, or just one 0,5ml shot?
started today, ended a cutter yesterday and now on kcal+, bulking.
do sarms for 8 weeks before my 14 week test/eq bulker starts in january, im gonna bulk after the bulk!

time to get growing.
 
marcu_s said:
do u guys do 2times 0,25ml a day, or just one 0,5ml shot?
started today, ended a cutter yesterday and now on kcal+, bulking.
do sarms for 8 weeks before my 14 week test/eq bulker starts in january, im gonna bulk after the bulk!

time to get growing.
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I'm taking 50mgs all at once,couldn't tell the difference so said to my self lets get it over with!
 
marcu_s said:
do u guys do 2times 0,25ml a day, or just one 0,5ml shot?
started today, ended a cutter yesterday and now on kcal+, bulking.
do sarms for 8 weeks before my 14 week test/eq bulker starts in january, im gonna bulk after the bulk!

time to get growing.
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Good luck bulking on sarms. I eat and eat and eat, but I don't put alot of weight on at all with sarms. I'm on 4500+ calories right now, and I'm still recomping and not gaining weight. It's like var in that respect, it's almost impossible to put on lots of weight no matter how much you eat, and I don't seem to store fat either.
 
so u dont think its a good tool in putting on lean mass?
should i maybe wait whit my sarms till my cycle is over in october and run it as a bridge?
 
marcu_s said:
so u dont think its a good tool in putting on lean mass?
should i maybe wait whit my sarms till my cycle is over in october and run it as a bridge?
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Thats up to you, what it does is give you a complete body composition,leaning you out making the muscles look fuller,its primaty effect is on skeletial Muscle tissue
 
marcu_s said:
so u dont think its a good tool in putting on lean mass?
should i maybe wait whit my sarms till my cycle is over in october and run it as a bridge?
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All I know is both times I ran it, it recomped no matter what I did. Now a recomp does mean you are replacing muscle with fat, as I'm staying the same weight while dropping bf%. But it's not drastic. And this time I am running 4500 calories and still recomping at 204lbs, which is crazy. I just had caliper work and am almost below 8%, so I'm down another .5% bf in two weeks....on 4500 calories. The other thing is I can EAT while on it - though it's weird. I get full, but still feel hungry. I have to stop myself or I'll make myself stuffed. But it enables me to eat every 2 hors with NO PROBLEM!

Sarms would make for a goo bridge, a good "active recover" and a good summer run! I wonder if it could impart it's fat burning properties during a traditional builking cycle to help prevent alot of fat stored...hmmm...

So maybe it could be part of a bulker, but itself it will not bulk at all.
 
Radar, I started reading the first 8 pages but I can't bring myself to read this entire thread due to its length. I am curious if it helped you maintain your gains and whether your hearing is still better than it used to be? Also, no vidion sides, right? I had lasik a few months ago so I don't know how it would affect me
 
Radr and anyone else, I know you said earlier that it made your joints feel better...So how long did this last? Did your joints still feel good while off SARMS? Do you think you were off long enough to make a difference in the joints?

GP
 
d_rson said:
All I know is both times I ran it, it recomped no matter what I did. Now a recomp does mean you are replacing muscle with fat, as I'm staying the same weight while dropping bf%. But it's not drastic. And this time I am running 4500 calories and still recomping at 204lbs, which is crazy. I just had caliper work and am almost below 8%, so I'm down another .5% bf in two weeks....on 4500 calories. The other thing is I can EAT while on it - though it's weird. I get full, but still feel hungry. I have to stop myself or I'll make myself stuffed. But it enables me to eat every 2 hors with NO PROBLEM!

Sarms would make for a goo bridge, a good "active recover" and a good summer run! I wonder if it could impart it's fat burning properties during a traditional builking cycle to help prevent alot of fat stored...hmmm...

So maybe it could be part of a bulker, but itself it will not bulk at all.
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I agree
 
AlphaMaleDawg said:
Radar, I started reading the first 8 pages but I can't bring myself to read this entire thread due to its length. I am curious if it helped you maintain your gains and whether your hearing is still better than it used to be? Also, no vidion sides, right? I had lasik a few months ago so I don't know how it would affect me
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If my hearing is still good i can't tell because my body has adapted to it ,so i guess you could say it's no worse.My first Run ,some of my aches came back,The worst ones.The second run they are gone again,running a 3rd run now and no aches,we will see what happens this time.
I run it at 50mgs Every day until i start getting some vision sides then run it At 30mg 5 days on 2 off!I'll slowly work up to 50mg at this dosage.
If you had lastik ,i would start with 20 and slowly work your way up.
 
Goldprospector said:
Radr and anyone else, I know you said earlier that it made your joints feel better...So how long did this last? Did your joints still feel good while off SARMS? Do you think you were off long enough to make a difference in the joints?

GP
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They seem to last longer the second time i ran it,running a 3rd now ,so resuls are out right now,but at the moment no joint pain.
 
d_rson said:
All I know is both times I ran it, it recomped no matter what I did. Now a recomp does mean you are replacing muscle with fat, as I'm staying the same weight while dropping bf%. But it's not drastic. And this time I am running 4500 calories and still recomping at 204lbs, which is crazy. I just had caliper work and am almost below 8%, so I'm down another .5% bf in two weeks....on 4500 calories. The other thing is I can EAT while on it - though it's weird. I get full, but still feel hungry. I have to stop myself or I'll make myself stuffed. But it enables me to eat every 2 hors with NO PROBLEM!

Sarms would make for a goo bridge, a good "active recover" and a good summer run! I wonder if it could impart it's fat burning properties during a traditional builking cycle to help prevent alot of fat stored...hmmm...

So maybe it could be part of a bulker, but itself it will not bulk at all.
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My results exactcally
 
Kevsta96 said:
Later you said you put on 3 more pounds even on a maintenance diet so it seems like its perfect for a lean bulk... No?
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Yes its good for a lean bulk,But actually a bulk isn't what i would especially call it,it does pump you up nicely tho.
 
What do you guys think of running SARMS with High-Dose Anavar for a cutting OR Lean Bulk cycle? ... I don't see why not to be honest , but I appreciate any input
 
crulexis said:
What do you guys think of running SARMS with High-Dose Anavar for a cutting OR Lean Bulk cycle? ... I don't see why not to be honest , but I appreciate any input
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Since SARMS is a lean bulker that should work nicely,i would say run it!
 
Is SARMS like AAS, i mean in the sense of shutting you down and then needing PCT? also AAS shound not be taken by anyone, as young as 18 years old as he hasn't stopped growing yet and his hormones are not stable yet. Is this also the case with SARMS? or can they be taken in puberty without causing problems like steroids do, if taken in young age?
 
superyo said:
Is SARMS like AAS, i mean in the sense of shutting you down and then needing PCT? also AAS shound not be taken by anyone, as young as 18 years old as he hasn't stopped growing yet and his hormones are not stable yet. Is this also the case with SARMS? or can they be taken in puberty without causing problems like steroids do, if taken in young age?
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SARMS can give some shutdown if doses are higher and if the cycle lengths are long. Usually a light PCT is required to return to normal.

Anything hormonal (including SARMS) is not recommended for anyone under 21. You should never mess with anything that can fuck with your endocrine system at a young age
 
RickRock13 said:
SARMS can give some shutdown if doses are higher and if the cycle lengths are long. Usually a light PCT is required to return to normal.

Anything hormonal (including SARMS) is not recommended for anyone under 21. You should never mess with anything that can fuck with your endocrine system at a young age
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Thanks bro :)
 
RADAR said:
today we will be discussing SARMS (selective Androgen Receptor Modulators)

The use of high quality reagents and purified solvents, the monitoring of synthetic steps, etc. are all crucial to a quality synthesis. While every effort is made to ensure that individual syntheses proceed as efficiently as possible, the final products are always subjected to a number of quality control procedures appropriate to the grade of The Product being supplied. this is what makes or breaks a product.
Alto Sarms is not a Peptide, The mechanism in which it work is similar.
Lets discuss peptides.
peptides usually come in 5mg, 10mg, 25mg, 50mg and 100mg at one of two purity levels 80% to 90%, with absolute values dependent upon the number of amino acid residues, sequence complexity and overall amino acid composition.

Modified and Complex Peptides
Now These peptides are normally supplied with free N-terminal amino and C-terminal acid groups* but modifications, such as N-terminal acetylation or C-terminal amidation, since genuine suppliers can tweak peptides to suit a persons needs
by the incorporation of D-amino acids,or 'unnatural' amino acids such as b-alanine, diiodotyrosine, ornithine, hydroxyproline, b-naphthylalanine, statines.



peptides work thru what is called Maps-an alternative carrier for peptides this provides the peptide the necessaty coupling for the coupling of proteins,such approach has the advantage eleminating protein derived antibodies
Certain peptedes like IGF and LongIGF work differently Via thru different nuerotransmitters so results are overly enhanced.


Theres alot more i will maybe add later

in a few days i will be testing a Compound made by our forum sponsor "SARMS SEARCH"
this will be my journal thread so stay tuned.

RADAR
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Not to be a dick but that did not tell me one thing about what SARMs do?
 
GGOF said:
Not to be a dick but that did not tell me one thing about what SARMs do?
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SARMs activate the androgen receptors within the muscle, which then creates more nitrogen retention. This makes for a more anabolic environment and leads to muscle and strength gains, and fat loss.

Because there is no androgenic activity outside of the muscle, the side effects associated with steroids are not prevalent with SARMs.
 
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