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Aifm Rash Poll

Did you get a rash from AIFM?

  • YES

    Votes: 21 36.8%
  • NO

    Votes: 31 54.4%
  • No, but I got something else......what is it?

    Votes: 4 7.0%

  • Total voters
    57
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krishna said:
Hey Anthony, is ATD the only AI that reduces brain aromatase and is an anti-androgen? What about aromasin? I know they are similar as they are both suicidal inhibitors. You should start a thread with everything you know.

ALL Aromatase inhibitor reduce aromatase activity in the brain. Especially when injected or distributed by silastic capsule directly into the brain.

Yes aromasin binds to the AR with similar affinity .2% of DHT. This only has any meaning if you have no androgens.

these things were already pointed out to anthony and mr.x prior, though they have conveniently forgotten them.
 
Itnstln - I'm not getting into it with you or anyone else, but give it a rest already - stop feeding the flames and let's get on track to helping each other out, not wasting everyone's time with childish posts

It's just getting to the point where people are going to just leave EF or do something drastic like having members or even mods removed.... nobody wants that

Peace! (Really!)[/QUOTE]
:coffee:
 
macrophage69alpha said:
ALL Aromatase inhibitor reduce aromatase activity in the brain. Especially when injected or distributed by silastic capsule directly into the brain.

Yes aromasin binds to the AR with similar affinity .2% of DHT. This only has any meaning if you have no androgens.

these things were already pointed out to anthony and mr.x prior, though they have conveniently forgotten them.

What about competitive inhibitors like a-dex and femera? It doesn't seem like they would have the same effect, but I know you have to watch out for a rebound with them.
 
so now there have been 4 more votes, with no one posting.

so 17 negative impact votes compared to 4 posts. One of those by anon13-043-4 whatever member as thier first post.

this smear campaign is a bit tiring.

AIFM can cause rashes/allergies (like every topical and cosmetic), the data that AF has collected indicates that its about 1%, with perhaps 2-3 percent- having irritation that is managable by rotating and adding aloe after.

something that has never been disputed.

if it was 40% then why would AF continue selling it? that would constitute a huge finanacial loss for them. Even 10% return rate would be untenable.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
if it was 40% then why would AF continue selling it? that would constitute a huge finanacial loss for them. Even 10% return rate would be untenable.

People don't always return products. Heck, I've bought stuff from the retail store that was broken before, like a CD player, never did return it. Assuming your "return" rate has anything to do with it, is wrong.

Poll results are clear:
Did you get a rash from AIFM?
YES 17 38.64%
NO 24 54.55%
No, but I got something else......what is it? 3 6.82%
 
Interestingly, the person who suffered cognitive impairment from a transdermal AI said it was probably because AI's typically have a long(ish) active life in the body, and the sustained release provided by a transdermal, in his opinion, makes the assault on brain aromatase go on for way too long...and led (again, in his opinion) to the problems he suffered with his transdermal AI.

In the end, he influenced the removal of a transdermal AI product from the market due to his concerns.

Add to this story the idea that ATD has also been pulled from the market by more than one company, already.

I've produced a study in this thread suggesting that ATD is an anti-androgen!

Now add in the fact that people are getting rashes from this particular one.

Why is this discussion even going on? I'd think that the conclusion that most members here will reach is the logical one; don't buy anything with ATD, and certainly don't buy a transdermal AI, of any kind.
 
Lyle Alzado thought he got brain cancer from steroids. Maybe they knew each other.

Aromasin has this same "anti-androgen" quallity. It's only a problem if you have NO ANDROGENS in you. It's .2% and of no consequence to someone who wasn't castrated.

The discussion is going on because you seem to overlook everything Macro schools you on. And then repeat yourself like you haven't seen it answered already.

Oh and BTW, by posting in your real name you're going to find out that you're liable for your posts. Just ask Patrick Arnold.
 
I haven't tried the product myself, so I can't speak for the quality or the integrity of the AF store. There is obvious conflicts in the higher powers to be. There seems to be no doubt that several members have received rashes severe enough to require immediate medical attention.

I know I have been here only a few months, but in those months I have witnessed many things. For a site so hell bent on not posting sources of anything, we do an excellent job at promoting the AF store as well as the AG-Guys. Yes, they have done a great service to the community here at EF, but I would be extremely upset if i purchased a product that jeopordized my health. I don't know Macro or Ulter, so I can't say anything negative about them. But Mr. X has been more than willing to help me out in all areas, and so, my loyalty will lie with him, as well as ItlnStln, who many may feel is outspoken, but shows compassion for all members and a willingness to put his reputation on the line to protect EF members.

Hidden agendas are everywhere, and its the sole purpose of a store to sell as many products as possible. Much money and time is spent into researching products and how users react to those products, so when something goes wrong with the product, recalling those products so more research can be done probably doesn't happen as much as we would like.

But it would be wrong for anyone to be banned because of their opinions. That would not sit well with me or anyother member.
 
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