Agree/Disagree?

[heatherrae]

I think he can pretty much bank on the notion that anytime he has to testify in a trial against a minority the opposing lawyer will bring this up; should be interesting.

I can guarantee you that they will! So, in effect, he can't make arrests without being a liability now. If he ever has to shoot a minority in the line of duty, justified or not, you better believe that the police force will be sued because they know that he posts on a racist website. The defense costs $$$. He is too big of a risk.

 

[gjohnson5]

Weren't you in favor of the Bush wiretapping program??

I was going to quit Elitefitness when I got my gov't job because I felt that it was a conflict of ethics. Now that I see in my agency that folks are somewhat loose and not to "tight assed" as I once thought , I have relaxed that opinion some

But I think that some on your side of the fence want folks to be monitored more then the yare now. Some right wingers believe that people should not have privacy at all.

I think people don't care about the monitoring unless it's THEM that are being monitored....

LOL @ even for Phenom.

Because I don't want to live in a totalitarian society where even peoples private thoughts are monitored by the government.

Yeah sorry, my family came here to escape that crap bro. Im not about to support turning into the US into the same kind of place.


That we are even discussing this topic is absurd. I can only attribute it to the fact that most people just aren't very bright or operate under the fantasy that all future questionable thought will be in line with their thinking.

Way to cede your rights to the government.

 

[jnevin]

Weren't you in favor of the Bush wiretapping program??

I was going to quite elitefitness when I got my gov't job because I felt that it was a conflict of ethics. Now that I see in my agency that folks are somewhat loose and not to "tight assed" as I once thought , I have relaxed that opinion some

But I think that some on your side of the fence want folks to be monitored more then the yare now. Some right wingers believe that people should not haveprivacy at all.

I think people don't care about the monitoring unless it's THEM that are being monitored....

If I'm not mistaken, the wire tapping only applies to call coming from outside the U.S. Different rules apply. It's like customs for calls in a sense.

 

[heatherrae]

Weren't you in favor of the Bush wiretapping program??

I was going to quit Elitefitness when I got my gov't job because I felt that it was a conflict of ethics. Now that I see in my agency that folks are somewhat loose and not to "tight assed" as I once thought , I have relaxed that opinion some

But I think that some on your side of the fence want folks to be monitored more then the yare now. Some right wingers believe that people should not have privacy at all.

I think people don't care about the monitoring unless it's THEM that are being monitored....

I'm very much not in favor of the wiretapping program, and I am the biggest proponent of freedom of speech that I know. However, in this case, I think the issue isn't so much freedom of speech as it is his ability to do the job he was hired to do. He has put too much ammo out there to attack his arrests.

 

[gjohnson5]

I will agree that his wife should have more protections under the law. Woman should not have to tolerate with sexual harrassment in order to do a job (now if the chicks wanna harass me they are more then welcome )

Anyway
His reaction to the situation means to me that he will react negatively again. What if his partner got shot by a black dude. This guy my go after and shoot , kill the first black person he sees. It is a character flaw that the psychological testing did not find.

It does not matter what race the cop is. Harboring resentment like that for anyone is bad

I'm very much not in favor of the wiretapping program, and I am the biggest proponent of freedom of speech that I know. However, in this case, I think the issue isn't so much freedom of speech as it is his ability to do the job he was hired to do. He has put too much ammo out there to attack his arrests.

 

[Phenom78]

Weren't you in favor of the Bush wiretapping program??

I was going to quit Elitefitness when I got my gov't job because I felt that it was a conflict of ethics. Now that I see in my agency that folks are somewhat loose and not to "tight assed" as I once thought , I have relaxed that opinion some

But I think that some on your side of the fence want folks to be monitored more then the yare now. Some right wingers believe that people should not have privacy at all.

I think people don't care about the monitoring unless it's THEM that are being monitored....

Because you are being too simplistic.

No one is wiretapping purely domestic calls without warrants.. If they were then I would be the first to call for prosecution.

It is long established that citzens have no expectation of privacy for antyhing crossing a national border. Which is why customs doesn't need a warrant to search international packages. SCOTUS ruled long before Bush that they could download your hardrive if they wished provided it was crossing a border. A telephone company is no less real a border than an airport in Chicago.

I doubt you'd find many right wingers as you put it anxious to establish a more powerful and invasive government.

That has been the agenda of you left wingers since most of the 20th century. We are the ones trying to prevent you from doing so.

 

[gjohnson5]

This is the line GW fed you...

If I'm not mistaken, the wire tapping only applies to call coming from outside the U.S. Different rules apply. It's like customs for calls in a sense.

 

[gjohnson5]

Guys , I simply don't believe that for a comprehensive anti terror program that monitoring only international calls is sufficient. There would be no monitoring of terror cell here in the US.


Newflash
There are terror cells in the US
End Newsflash


This is why phone companies are denying his requests for phone records without a warrant. He is infact running a dragnet

 

[Phenom78]

Guys , I simply don't believe that for a comprehensive anti terror program that monitoring only international calls is sufficient. There would be no monitoring of terror cell here in the US.


Newflash
There are terror cells in the US
End Newsflash


This is why phone companies are denying his requests for phone records without a warrant. He is infact running a dragnet

Bro

Your command of the facts is extremely flawed.

No credible source is even making the assertion you are with respect to domestic wire tapping.

 

[Protobuilder]

I have to agree, unless we all agree (as California intends to do) to outlaw thought.

While our actions can be regulated, our thought should not.

Apparently you haven't heard of "hate crimes." LoL You know, where if you think bad thoughts while killing someone, you get extra time in the joint. Well, it's OK to think bad thoughts about certain races while killing them, you just can't think bad thoughts about the "favored" races while killing them.