Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I agree, but is money is a problem at least some AI if anything.
Do HCG when you have $$
Advice For a Mild to Moderate Cycle Please?
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I agree, but is money is a problem at least some AI if anything.
Do HCG when you have $$
hcg is the lesser of the two, and if you can aford to cycle right then why do it at all.
d_rson
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750mg of test and 80mg of var is not a mild cycle for a 220lb guy wanting to gain "5-10lbs" and "harden up a tad bit more". The descriptor "mild" or "moderate" or "advanced" is based on the goal of the person.
First he needs to restructure his diet - that alone will harden him up. All those carbs are keeping him soft (or not as hard as he could be). Second, he needs to up his protein so she starts to grow - 220grams at 220lbs is maintenance at best. Those two things alone will probably "harden him up a tad bit more" and put 5lbs on him in 12 weeks - without any AAS. So a mild cycle would be a little bit of test e for 12 weeks and something to control the estrogen and leave him hard.
1) Restructure diet (drop carbs and replace with protein and healthy fats)
2) A Little bit of Test E for 12 weeks
3) An AI incase
4) Good PCT
Bingo, 5-10lbs and harder. Goal acheived without introducing unneeded AAS.
chicagobuffedbod
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I don't really respond well to super high levels of protein. Even Jay Cutler eats about a gram per pound of muscle. So that's about the guideline that I follow. If I eat 1.5g of protein or more per pound of body weight I get a bit fat.
I really appreciate all of your input, guys. It's been great. THANK YOU!
I really appreciate all of your input, guys. It's been great. THANK YOU!
chicagobuffedbod
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Oh and by the way I will have AI's on hand for sure. That's a given. I should have stressed that I will have this.
But another question I have is:
Since I will plan to be on HRT indefinitely I don't see the advantages of taking HCG.I actually tried to use HCG as a form of HRT but my doctor refused to give me a prescription for it. I loved using it toward the end of my cycles years ago to get 'the boys' back in working order and as a great aid for PCT.
Oh and also, a few months ago before I took Androgel I was given 200mg of enanthate once every two weeks. I actually got good results on just that alone. I am thinking that if I take 200mg once a week with 200 to 400eq a week and maybe some primo that I will be happy.
But another question I have is:
Since I will plan to be on HRT indefinitely I don't see the advantages of taking HCG.I actually tried to use HCG as a form of HRT but my doctor refused to give me a prescription for it. I loved using it toward the end of my cycles years ago to get 'the boys' back in working order and as a great aid for PCT.
Oh and also, a few months ago before I took Androgel I was given 200mg of enanthate once every two weeks. I actually got good results on just that alone. I am thinking that if I take 200mg once a week with 200 to 400eq a week and maybe some primo that I will be happy.
yes
AI's especially. Gyno is still a possibility. That's what AI's are for. Well, also because high estrogen, etc is NOT healthy for men.
everyone is different on protein. it is good to always investigate any diet change you make to see what is good for you and what isnt.
i find balance to be a huge factor in diet. for example if i dont eat 120g of carbs to every 100g of protein i eat i dont seem to get as much out of my diet. i also get bogged down and store fat. its not so much about amounts of macros alone its about the ratio between them then the amounts. that ratio will vary greatly from person to person.
Yep.
I am a tall skinny lean natural build. I need to eat tons of carbs to pack on mass. Protein can be at about 350 a day for the rest of my life. Increasing or decreasing carbs is where I put on mass or cut fat.
Sadly, cutting fat also results in muscle loss for me. When I cut, I get flat looking. It takes about 10 days of carb bingeing then I fill out.
Fudge Tunnel
Banned
Here is an advanced cycle a friend of mine used at the end of the cycle he was 5% bf and a solid 245. NOT EVERYONE SHOULD DO THIS, THIS IS FOR THE VERY AVANCED USER ONLY.
1-12 - 30ius GH 10ius shot 3 times a week PWO.
13-27 - 28ius GH 2ius in AM and 2 ius mid afternoon
1-4 - 10ius insulin
9-12 - 10ius insulin
5-8 - 100mcg IGF-LR3
5-8 - 500mcg cheque drops
1-27 - 50mcg t3
1-4 - 50 mg Dbol
1-12 - 100mg NPP EOD
1-24 - 750mg Test C
9-12 - 50mg Winstrol
13-27 - 800mg Primo
20-27 - 600mg Masteron
20-27 - 100mg Anavar ED
1-29 - 25mg Aromasin ED
1-28 - 500ius HCG M,W,F
1-14 - .5mg cabergoline E3D
I would stick with 500mg test only if I were you, you've got a ways to go before stacking anything, just my opinion.
Fudge Tunnel
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First, yes it is mild. Yes, I do agree his diet is the biggest factor in everything but the cycle is very mild, see my previous post for an advance cycle, of which I'm sure you haven't even dreamed of using as of yet or maybe never will. So 750mg test and 80mg anavar is a mild cycle in comparison.
You're totally wrong about #3. An A/I IN CASE? Why would you wait for a problem to occur instead of trying to maintain a balance of estrogen and testosterone? That is asking for a problem, maybe gyno, or prostate issues.
What have you cycled and what were you're results? Not flaming you bro, just curious as to what you've done, it seems like you're kind of new to this game seeing that your advice for an A/I is totally inaccurate.
