about done w dbol cycle...

[Bozwell]

When I stated using aas I was 12 and a half stone very lean below 10% body fat been training for about 5 tears joined a gym 3 years ago (Im 23 ) my first cycle was 1ml of sust per week for 8 weeks and I kept 12lbs of that cycle also
How can you say If I gain well for small doses Im not ready for aas, my diet is good I spend a mint of protein shakes and vitamins
by the sound of it you envy the fact I can make good gains or small amounts

 

[Ozz2001]

Lol, I just don't get it. I just completed a 50mg 3 week cycle of d-bol, and I gained like 2 lbs. Strength didn't go up too much either. I know the d-bol was real ('cause I had permanent back pumps and I felt the side-effects the entire time), so don't gimme that shit about my gear not being real.

Thus, I will have to agree with The Terminator here. If you can gain that much on a mere cycle of d-bol, you are most definitely not ready for steroids.

Probably was methyltest some pass them off as dbol i have read anyways.This would make sence why you had sides and only 2lbs.
Methyltest is worthless..

 

[Edmund]

'cause I had permanent back pumps and I felt the side-effects the entire time

..WTF???

Besides, you could have years off training experience and still make good gains off low doses.

...I hope that's true. I just started training after 15 years off. Started when I was 15 and when I wuz 22 I was big enough that people in the gym were starting rumors about my using gear, although I never did. Making decent gains (I think) now w/o, but working on info for my first cycle.

 

[needsize]

Damn do I ever disagree with almost everything posted on this thread

can someone please explain to me how mass(actual muscle mass) gained from dbol, is ANY different than mass gained from ANY other steroid....good luck with that because there is absolutely no difference. I constantly hear people say stuff like "you will lose all your gains from dbol", but "if you run test you will keep much more"...that is one of the stupidest things I can think of, and I've worked with retarded people!!!! Any muscle mass you gain from any steroid, is just as easy to keep, it DOES NOT MATTER WHAT DRUG YOU USED TO GAIN IT!!!

I have seen tons of buddies that I train with run dbol only cycles. Two examples are guys that both have a few years training experience. They ran 6 week cycles, 30mg a day I believe. One gained 16lbs, and kept 13lbs, the other gained 12lbs, and last time I saw him(which was a year after the cycle), he was still up 9-10lbs.

People with very little steroid experience really should stop just repeating shit they have heard other people say, and havent experienced themselves. And if you have experienced this, then you need to spend some time on the training and diet forums, as if you pissed away the muscle you gained, thats your fault, not the dbol

 

[karachi183]

Damn do I ever disagree with almost everything posted on this thread

can someone please explain to me how mass(actual muscle mass) gained from dbol, is ANY different than mass gained from ANY other steroid....good luck with that because there is absolutely no difference. I constantly hear people say stuff like "you will lose all your gains from dbol", but "if you run test you will keep much more"...that is one of the stupidest things I can think of, and I've worked with retarded people!!!! Any muscle mass you gain from any steroid, is just as easy to keep, it DOES NOT MATTER WHAT DRUG YOU USED TO GAIN IT!!!

I have seen tons of buddies that I train with run dbol only cycles. Two examples are guys that both have a few years training experience. They ran 6 week cycles, 30mg a day I believe. One gained 16lbs, and kept 13lbs, the other gained 12lbs, and last time I saw him(which was a year after the cycle), he was still up 9-10lbs.

People with very little steroid experience really should stop just repeating shit they have heard other people say, and havent experienced themselves. And if you have experienced this, then you need to spend some time on the training and diet forums, as if you pissed away the muscle you gained, thats your fault, not the dbol

Very well put! Listen to NS he knows his shit!

 

[jokerswild]

you gotta respect terms postition. however, in my case and some others who are extreme ectomorphs i feel that gear is the only option once you reach a certain plateau, and that might not be 200 lbs. i am 6 2 and full grown i was 125 as a frosh, i got to 145 natty but that was all i could do. with gear i shot up 22lbs in 12 weeks to 165. so i feel sometimes one must use gear to grow, however, if you are able to put on weight without gear than you should wait till you need it, that is essentially what he is saying.

Agree 100%, started at 135 got to 170 natty after 4 yrs and just could gain any more, first cycle gained 15 lbs and have kept 8-10.......

 

[slash747]

Damn do I ever disagree with almost everything posted on this thread

can someone please explain to me how mass(actual muscle mass) gained from dbol, is ANY different than mass gained from ANY other steroid....good luck with that because there is absolutely no difference. I constantly hear people say stuff like "you will lose all your gains from dbol", but "if you run test you will keep much more"...that is one of the stupidest things I can think of, and I've worked with retarded people!!!! Any muscle mass you gain from any steroid, is just as easy to keep, it DOES NOT MATTER WHAT DRUG YOU USED TO GAIN IT!!!

I have seen tons of buddies that I train with run dbol only cycles. Two examples are guys that both have a few years training experience. They ran 6 week cycles, 30mg a day I believe. One gained 16lbs, and kept 13lbs, the other gained 12lbs, and last time I saw him(which was a year after the cycle), he was still up 9-10lbs.

People with very little steroid experience really should stop just repeating shit they have heard other people say, and havent experienced themselves. And if you have experienced this, then you need to spend some time on the training and diet forums, as if you pissed away the muscle you gained, thats your fault, not the dbol

This is great to hear cause I was about to start my 30mg of dbol for 12 weeks next week

 

[Joe Stenson]

Damn do I ever disagree with almost everything posted on this thread

can someone please explain to me how mass(actual muscle mass) gained from dbol, is ANY different than mass gained from ANY other steroid....good luck with that because there is absolutely no difference. I constantly hear people say stuff like "you will lose all your gains from dbol", but "if you run test you will keep much more"...that is one of the stupidest things I can think of, and I've worked with retarded people!!!! Any muscle mass you gain from any steroid, is just as easy to keep, it DOES NOT MATTER WHAT DRUG YOU USED TO GAIN IT!!!

I totally agree with everything in your post, bro. That being said, it seemed sort of out of place. I know it's referring to the actual topic of the thread, but no one's even been discussing that. Everyone is talking about how long to wait before using AAS.

And bruce410, you're 6'2 and you get up to 167lbs ON cycle? With how serious you seem to be about your training and eating, you must have one CRAZY metabolism.

 

[markshark]

I totally agree with everything in your post, bro. That being said, it seemed sort of out of place. I know it's referring to the actual topic of the thread, but no one's even been discussing that. Everyone is talking about how long to wait before using AAS.

And bruce410, you're 6'2 and you get up to 167lbs ON cycle? With how serious you seem to be about your training and eating, you must have one CRAZY metabolism.

hes answering my question. i ran 50 mg of dbol for 4 weeks and my bench went up about 50 lbs....i have a hard time believing i will keep only 2 lbs of it. for like 5 days ive tapered down my dose too from 50 mg to now 25 mg and everything is still up. my back strength actually went through the roof today. when i first started the gear my one arm dumbell rows i was using 70-75 lbs, now im on the 110s. my pullups went from 15 to 26 also. im certain that if i train hard, eat 7-9 times a day and take creatine and protein post-cycle i will retain a lot of the gains. and ive taken aas before (deca and cyp) 2 years ago, ive been training for about 8 years hard, and never had the strength gains like this dbol.

 

[The Terminator]

When I stated using aas I was 12 and a half stone very lean below 10% body fat been training for about 5 tears joined a gym 3 years ago (Im 23 ) my first cycle was 1ml of sust per week for 8 weeks and I kept 12lbs of that cycle also
How can you say If I gain well for small doses Im not ready for aas, my diet is good I spend a mint of protein shakes and vitamins
by the sound of it you envy the fact I can make good gains or small amounts

There were about 10 different guys who posted in this thread before you...Who are you talking to ?