about done w dbol cycle...

[Bruce]

yea i was pencil legs, but i don't give a fuck i was the fastest lacrosse player on the field and as skinny as i was i was still strong as the big boys and i ran a 4.4 back in the day without any training at all. there was skinny bones jones, a whole host of others, but as pac said skinny niggas throw the dick well, so it was never a problem fo me.

 

[Bruce]

damn you termie, i thought i could get off the juice after two more cycles. thanks for not blowin smoke up my ass though for real. what about gh. does that have a more permanent effect when i am say 30 and want to quit cycling

 

[The Terminator]

damn you termie, i thought i could get off the juice after two more cycles. thanks for not blowin smoke up my ass though for real. what about gh. does that have a more permanent effect when i am say 30 and want to quit cycling

I think as guys get older you will see their dosages get lower and lower ...And eventually many will just turn to HRT at 150-200 mg/week, permanently...

What you may find as you get older is that you might do one cycle a year at maybe 400-600 mg of TOTAL gear and that's it...And be happy with that...
I know my dosages are progressively getting lower and lower each time

I thnk GH IS better the older you are, and most guys (non competitors) under 30 probably have little use for it...
But as far as its effects being more "permanent", I really cant say for sure as I have still yet to use it ...
Though I would venture to say that yes its effects are probably longer lasting...But remember it can offer ALOT of other benefits like improved skin tone, skin elasticity, and a general youthful feeling that gear may or may not give you...

 

[Bruce]

now i understand a lot better why you feel the way you do about gaining weight natty. still though i have a great friend that only used winny for 2 years straight. he is a thick kid was 170 natty, but he remains at 205 7% or so no fat, all year and he is done. he was an all american football player and is a genetic freak in that he doesn't eat just drinks coffee and works out. sucks to be an ecto sometimes.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I think as guys get older you will see their dosages get lower and lower ...And eventually many will just turn to HRT at 150-200 mg/week, permanently...

What you may find as you get older is that you might do one cycle a year at maybe 400-600 mg of TOTAL gear and that's it...And be happy with that...
I know my dosages are progressively getting lower and lower each time

I thnk GH IS better the older you are, and most guys (non competitors) under 30 probably have little use for it...
But as far as its effects being more "permanent", I really cant say for sure as I have still yet to use it ...
Though I would venture to say that yes its effects are probably longer lasting...But remember it can offer ALOT of other benefits like improved skin tone, skin elasticity, and a general youthful feeling that gear may or may not give you...

agreed, with higher doses -muscle wise-have f'd me up...I get to damn strong and pull/tear muscles while lifting, and joints are starting to feel like an old man from heavy squats sucks a fat hog This OFF period im on now has been the ONLY one where I have actually contemplated taking MORE time off than usual...why? B/C just like Termie said, as you get older you start to notice and sence what you REALLY need...damn im glad i didn't blow my wad with GH...what a bunch of nonsense that just was

 

[The Terminator]

now i understand a lot better why you feel the way you do about gaining weight natty.

THAT is what alot of these youung new guys dont yet realize (and they wont for years...)
Is that if you CANT gain it naturally then, you WONT keep it after you come off for an extended period of time...

Unless you want to make eating food a fulltime job in your life (and THAT is too boring for most), unless you're Jay Cutler aka THE most boring man in the world

 

[Outtlaw]

When I first started out I was about 140lbs at 6'1''. Now that's what I call anorexic!! Girls were bigger than me, and I kid you not. I wish I could get to the pic I took of myself back then. Im gonna post that thing up one day so people can see just how skinny I was. I could never go back to that weight. The lowest I could get to would probably be about 180. To get below that I'd really need to stop working out and eat like 2 meals a day. But that will never happen.

 

[Bruce]

When I first started out I was about 140lbs at 6'1''. Now that's what I call anorexic!! Girls were bigger than me, and I kid you not. I wish I could get to the pic I took of myself back then. Im gonna post that thing up one day so people can see just how skinny I was. I could never go back to that weight. The lowest I could get to would probably be about 180. To get below that I'd really need to stop working out and eat like 2 meals a day. But that will never happen.

so you think if i get up to 195, i am 6 2, that i could stay that big if i ate right 4000 cals realistically, and trained right with no gear?

 

[Outtlaw]

so you think if i get up to 195, i am 6 2, that i could stay that big if i ate right 4000 cals realistically, and trained right with no gear?

I think so. And I also think that anyone at least 6 feet tall should be able to hold 200lbs naturally without much problem. Of course some peoples metabolism make it harder than others.

 

[The Terminator]

so you think if i get up to 195, i am 6 2, that i could stay that big if i ate right 4000 cals realistically, and trained right with no gear?

Could you get there naturally? (be realistic in your answer here...)
(and I DONT mean by adding 20 lbs of FAT weight into that equation...)

If not, then I doubt you could stay that size for any real length of time
(THAT is what alot of guys will have to learn the hard way...)

Once you come off for extended periods of time expect to return to your natural plateau size again (and thus the need to alter your diet and training regimens)...which goes back to what I try to preach in the beginning...The NEED to use up all other options BEFORE using gear for that first time.

Gear makes it TOO EASY to grow ...But once you take it out of the equation its not that easy anymore (and the problem for some is that they have leaned on that "crutch" too long), and then without it they dont know how to gain anymore