AAS induced stroke?

[Ulter]

and you stated that high BP does not cause stroke.

No I didn't.

 

[The Heretic]

Thanks. Now how many of those were athletes as opposed to obese? How many died walking up the stairs? Again, you're not giving me any statistics relating to this thread, or steroid users.

I spent many years in the Marine Corps. During those years, my respective Units had 6 Marines (Marines that could run 3 miles in under 18 minutes, very strong and healthy) die of stroke. 3 were on AAS.


I'm not giving you any statistics because I don't have the time or need to find them. All I know is that

AAS= high BP

and

BP= (sometimes) equals stroke


If there are 3 million Americans on AAS then there HAS to be seom dying of stroke related to high BP caused by the use of AAS.

Also, the bro above just told you his friend stroked out because of high BP and AAS use.

One more thing. I juice, so I am not biased here. I just realize ALL the possible side effects and dangers of their use.

 

[The Heretic]

No I didn't.

Then you agree with me?

AAS causes high BP

High BP can lead to stroke


Why the debate then?

 

[Ulter]

What I am arguing is that the typical AS user is not a candidate for stroke simply because he uses AS. MOST people use anti-e's which eliminate the E2 that causes the water retention and high blood pressure. So most people cycle without raising their BP any significant degree.
My original point was to say that this person to whom the thread was addressed was not using AS that would have been the reason for his stroke. Mainly because his condition was diagnosed otherwise.

 

[psychedout]

The way I see it, there are 5 factors involved in strokes and bodybuilding.

Diet, training/cardiovascular, genetics, AAS, and supplement regime. The extent to which each affects an individual could vary quite substantially.

I would like to believe AAS do not impact health, but my bloodwork would seem to indicate that this is not the case.

That said, with a healthy diet, exercise, and supplement regime one can win the health battle, even while using AAS. I myself am winning the cholesterol battle as we speak.

Here is one thing that has always made me wonder a bit though. If we compared steroid users at age 40 to the rest of the population, would there be more strokes and heart attacks in users compared to non-users? I'm not sure there would be a statistically significant difference. So many people, both AAS and non-AAS users will experience such an event. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any literature on the subject and I doubt any exists.

The bottom line is this: Use, do not abuse; get regular bloodwork done; take the necesarry precautions and be safe.

 

[aznurse]

When I read the post and saw blood clotting disorder, I thought of Polycythemia. Since testosterone can cause an increase of RBCs, and he was using a blend of testosterone, a blockage could have occurred due to the increase of RBCs combined with the clotting disorder.

 

[The Heretic]

I understand that, but to blantantly say that AAS can't cause stroke is wrong. That's all I meant by my posts.

 

[yomama]

I understand that, but to blantantly say that AAS can't cause stroke is wrong. That's all I meant by my posts.

Directely it cant. It has a lot to do with diet, what you eat.

 

[patriots357]

Once again its a conspiracy that is going to blamed upon the use of AAS. Test, A-drol and EQ causes blood thickening, take an Aspirin a day keep up your cardio, and lead as least of stress free life as possible..... That is what I do when i get hot , sweaty , and my pupils dilate. Stay calm, push fluids, lay off salt anyway, take Aspirin, sweat as much as you can. Don't add clen or ephedra until your body gets accustomed.

peace

EAT RIGHT

 

[The Heretic]

Directely it cant. It has a lot to do with diet, what you eat.

LMAO!! Bro, yes it can. We just went over this.