AAS induced stroke?

[DMI]

High blood pressure is a major cause of strokes. I personally have a home blood pressure kit and monitor my BP very regularly. I only get high BP from aromatising steroids and when I am retaining water.

ECA also gives me problems. The problem here is the ephedra kicks BEFORE the aspirin (the addition to counteract high BP somewhat.) It can actually cause a very sudden and very high, but short-lived rise in BP that can potentially be fatal. My BP once elevated to 210/115 about 20 minutes after taking 2 stack IIs from 128/70 as I had checked my BP just before taking it. The room started spinning and I felt incredibly dizzy. I had to lay down to prevent passing out. Scary stuff!

 

[Optimus B]

taurine powder (5g/d) is good for lowering blood pressure too.

 

[The Heretic]

When I read the post and saw blood clotting disorder, I thought of Polycythemia. Since testosterone can cause an increase of RBCs, and he was using a blend of testosterone, a blockage could have occurred due to the increase of RBCs combined with the clotting disorder.

AHHHHHHHH!!! Great post!! Polycythemia also causes increased WBC and platelets. Those with this condition have an increased tendency to clot and STROKE!! I can't believe I forgot about this disorder!

Karma for you AZRN!!

 

[yomama]

LMAO!! Bro, yes it can. We just went over this.

If your cholesterol is perfect, and the rest of your body. You could pump 1500mg of eq and not have a stroke.

There is no point to argue, the guy had a stroke because of his lifestyle and eating habits. Or maybe he was doing too much crack.

 

[The Heretic]

High blood pressure is a major cause of strokes. I personally have a home blood pressure kit and monitor my BP very regularly. I only get high BP from aromatising steroids and when I am retaining water.

ECA also gives me problems. The problem here is the ephedra kicks BEFORE the aspirin (the addition to counteract high BP somewhat.) It can actually cause a very sudden and very high, but short-lived rise in BP that can potentially be fatal. My BP once elevated to 210/115 about 20 minutes after taking 2 stack IIs from 128/70 as I had checked my BP just before taking it. The room started spinning and I felt incredibly dizzy. I had to lay down to prevent passing out. Scary stuff!

Aspirin isn't going to help you with the effects of Ephedrine. ECA stacks cause your vessels to constrict, whic could lead to ICH. Not a clot.

 

[The Heretic]

If your cholesterol is perfect, and the rest of your body. You could pump 1500mg of eq and not have a stroke.

There is no point to argue, the guy had a stroke because of his lifestyle and eating habits. Or maybe he was doing too much crack.

You have no clue what you are talking about. So please shut-up before I make you look stupid.

 

[Ulter]

Abnormal neuroendocrine conditions with or without using AS can cause CVD. That's well documented, but not fully understood. I'll go back to my original statement that there is no evidence that AS, by itself, causes stroke. You're still extrapolating and I won't accept that as fact, but rather theory, unless it's proven in a clinical study.
Everything you've posted is adding AS to a pre-existing medical condition.

 

[Ulter]

I didn't even address the post by azrn because I already posted what he said, way back in the beginning. However the increase in RBC from Test is insignificant as shown in several studies. So in this argument it's a moot point.

 

[concordsize]

IMO the bottom line here is that when on aas one must check his or her blood pressure to help insure there health. Like i stated above my good friend stroked out due to his bp to high. He ate perfect and everyting.

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[The Heretic]

Abnormal neuroendocrine conditions with or without using AS can cause CVD. That's well documented, but not fully understood. I'll go back to my original statement that there is no evidence that AS, by itself, causes stroke. You're still extrapolating and I won't accept that as fact, but rather theory, unless it's proven in a clinical study.
Everything you've posted is adding AS to a pre-existing medical condition.

The type of stroke I am refferring to have NOTHING to do with CVD. You can hit someone in the head with a bat and they can have a stroke! Is that because they had high cholesterol? There have been THOUSANDS of studies that PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that AAS causes high BP. There have also been THOUSANDS os studies that show high BP can lead to stroke. What part of that don't you understand? I guess if I go and get drunk and drive and kill someone, I'll just use the defense of, "Hey, the car killed them, I didn't". To think that AAS can't cause high BP and to think that high BP can't cause stroke is ignorant at best and stubborn at worst.