AAS induced stroke?

[Optimus B]

Agree, that's why we have aspirin, to prevent blood clotting. Learn it people, it's called "Aspirin"!

aspirin does a great job for preventing strokes as it prevents platelet aggregation and subsequent thrombosis but won't do anything for atherosclerosis except prevent platelet aggregation about the site of atheroma. the combination of aspirin with a clean diet high in fiber would be optimal though.

 

[Apexx]

can anyone guess what industry optimus b is in??????

Great info bro, K to ya

 

[Ulter]

Are you kidding me? He has no knonw family history and your saying it has nothing to do with AAS's? This is a load of bullshit. You can believe whatever you want but this statement is just trying to deny that gear can cause very harmful effects.

Can you show me the literature that proves AS contributes to stroke? No?
Then saying it does is a load of bullshit. Since he already has a diagnosis of blood clotting, which is not a result of AS use, saying that it did means you are talking off the top of your head rather than from an informed position.

if the AAS messed his blood lipids (this is a definite possibility),

Most recent research (last 20 years) shows that AS has no significant affect on lipid profiles (although this is not true of anti-e's). And no research ever shows that short term fluctuations in lipid profiles, such as those you encounter in cycles, contributes to stroke.

 

[H_T_]

eliminate the variables.

 

[solidspine]

How old was he, what did he eat and what condition was he in when he had the stroke?

I am 55 and had a stress test about a month a go, my heart is fine, but bp is high, in my family.

 

[Optimus B]

Most recent research (last 20 years) shows that AS has no significant affect on lipid profiles (although this is not true of anti-e's). And no research ever shows that short term fluctuations in lipid profiles, such as those you encounter in cycles, contributes to stroke.

you are right about the other lipids but high testosterone does in fact suppress HDL cholesterol leading to suppressed ability to protect against atherosclerosis.

like i said, i highly doubt AAS is solely to blame for the stroke as it is a very multifactorial condition, but it is a factor.

 

[The Heretic]

Can you show me the literature that proves AS contributes to stroke? No?
Then saying it does is a load of bullshit. Since he already has a diagnosis of blood clotting, which is not a result of AS use, saying that it did means you are talking off the top of your head rather than from an informed position.




Most recent research (last 20 years) shows that AS has no significant affect on lipid profiles (although this is not true of anti-e's). And no research ever shows that short term fluctuations in lipid profiles, such as those you encounter in cycles, contributes to stroke.

I can show you were AAS causes high BP and how high BP can cause a stroke. There are other types of strokes than just occlusive people. Hemorrhagic? As in a blood vessel bursts due to high stress? It is VERY possible that this is what caused his stroke. Not saying that it did.

 

[Ulter]

It looks like no one plans to read the post. HE HAS A BLOOD CLOTTING DISEASE!!!

I can show you were AAS causes high BP and how high BP can cause a stroke.

Show me where AS use has been proven to cause high blood pressure that resulted in stroke. Not an extrapolation that you put together.

 

[LoneTree]

swole 2112:
You started the thread and then disappeared.
You should answer questions like how old was he as people have asked.
Did he smoke?
Did he had high blood pressure?
Did he had Diabetes?

 

[The Heretic]

It looks like no one plans to read the post. HE HAS A BLOOD CLOTTING DISEASE!!!


Show me where AS use has been proven to cause high blood pressure that resulted in stroke. Not an extrapolation that you put together.

If he has a blood clotting disease then yes, I would go with that.

The bottom line is, high BP causes stroke. I have treated many stroke patients that stroked because of their high BP. I'm not going to do a search and find every person who has died from a hemorrhagic stroke and find out if they were juicing or not. How about you show me where AAS doesn't cause high BP and that people don't stroke because of high BP.