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A Reminder About Clomid and Nolvadex

Nelson Montana

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I don't want to get into any arguments here. I'm just want to give a quick heads up. Real simple.

Clomid and Nolvadex are ESTROGENS. They occupy the receptor sites in order to prevent other estrogens to form, thus preventing gyno. (Maybe). The problem is, they have all the effects of extra estrogen -- weakness, mood swings and loss of libido.

Now some people do fine with them. That's great. But many don't and NOBODY really needs to use them with what is now available.

I've been speaking out against these drugs for over 15 years. People thought I was crazy. Now they know better. (I always preferred anti aromatases to anti estrogens. They simply work better. And even then, you need very little).

Still, there are a lot of people who follow the outdating "internet guru" thinking that was just erroneous information from the pioneers of personal pharmacology.

SO...bottom line. If you love clomid or nolva, knock yourself out. But if you're wondering what to use for PCT, I recommend avoiding them. And remember, contrary to internet rumor, they DO NOT restore the HPTA. (Please, don't post any any studies -- they're all flawed and most people don't understand them so don't bother -- I don't feel like arguing or explaining).

If you've used Clomid or Nolva and had a bad time with them, let 'em go! And go with preventing estrogen naturally and get the HTA up and running without depending on more drugs that just leave you more suppressed once you go off of them.

It's 2012 folks. Stop using 1989's PCT.
 
Great thread bro


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So then what exactly Would you recommended. I have clomid lined up for my pct and have never used it before. Suggest giving it a go? Seeing how it would affect me first?? Or really not necessary to even try at all
 
Its 2011 we no longer need to rely on breast cancer drugs for pct, run some post cycle / unleashed combo from needtobuildmuscle


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Madd....did you not read what nelson said. Yes its nice that you read up on how to do a proper pct, but its outdated and old! The options that are out there are far better. If I was you id get rid of them or give them to your local clinc or someone who actually needs it. You can find a better solution if you just do a few searches and read. I have full confidence that you can obtain this information. Do the right thing and dont inject estrogens when that is exactly what we are trying to minimize. also EAT EAT EAT! good luck!
 
I have nolva and clomid lined up for my next pct.

I know that the guys that recommend unleashed, hcgenerate and post cycle are far more experienced and knowledgeable than me but I still have trouble trying to have faith in these products and ditching nolva/clomid all together.

I'm doing 500mg of test e for 10 weeks, as I have a few times before.
I have recovered fine with nolva/clomid and have done blood work to confirm this, however I don't exactly feel the best during pct.

If I could add one of these products to my nolva/clomid pct what would you suggest?
 
Post cycle & unleashed it frees up SHBG allowing morE free test ,and the best thing is the morning wood so you know its working, try getting that with clomid and nova, you would enjoy that recovery cycle
 
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