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A PERFECT example of bad luck....

Damn girl :( I am sorry! Is it common to get hit by ticks so much there?
 
wow what the heck! I heard a lot about lyme disease when I was growin up, made me scared of ticks, but I do a lot of hiking and what not and haven't had to worry about it, I guess ticks don't live in San Diego?

Is it cureable? You said you have it, does that mean you have it for life?
 
silverstar1025 said:
Damn girl :( I am sorry! Is it common to get hit by ticks so much there?

Lyme disease is now the most common vector-borne disease in North America
I got this from a mosquito bite, not a tick.
I sent these pics to my Lyme Dr in NY and she confirmed it was a reinfection. She also told me a study was just released showing that mosquitos are carriers of lyme.
I was posting on my lyme site and 3 other posts on the same day as mine appeared with others getting the bulls eyes from a mosquitos.
This is not even funny.
If any of you get a rash that looks like a bulls eye from any bite, please get it checked.
My Lyme dr has a new patient with lyme who was bit by a dog with lyme.
 
curvymommy said:
(((Blue)))

Did this happen on your beautiful vacation? I am so sorry. That sucks!


Yes, I know I got the bite the first night there and it was itchy, but woke up yesterday and the bite was a bulls eye. The only infection / bacteria that causes that bulls eye is lyme.
 
Army Vet said:
god that is horrible news. :(

I hope you recover much quicker this time.

Well I
m still fighting the first infection from 14 yrs ago (it went untreated), so since now I was lucky enough to catch it early, I can treat with meds for 4-6 weeks and hopefully kill it.
I just did not want to get back on all these meds. They make me sick
 
blueta2 said:
Lyme disease is now the most common vector-borne disease in North America
I got this from a mosquito bite, not a tick.
I sent these pics to my Lyme Dr in NY and she confirmed it was a reinfection. She also told me a study was just released showing that mosquitos are carriers of lyme.
I was posting on my lyme site and 3 other posts on the same day as mine appeared with others getting the bulls eyes from a mosquitos.
This is not even funny.
If any of you get a rash that looks like a bulls eye from any bite, please get it checked.
My Lyme dr has a new patient with lyme who was bit by a dog with lyme.

Wow that is crazy!
 
Lestat said:
wow what the heck! I heard a lot about lyme disease when I was growin up, made me scared of ticks, but I do a lot of hiking and what not and haven't had to worry about it, I guess ticks don't live in San Diego?

Is it cureable? You said you have it, does that mean you have it for life?


It's only curable if caught early. If left untreated for years, it becomes part of your "dna" so to speak.
If you catch it right away, you can cure it with a lot of meds and change of diet etc. It takes about a yr to kill the infection if you catch it early.

It's a nasty bacteria that is hard to kill.
CA has one of the higest rates of lyme. Dude, seriously, check every bite you ever get.
 
blueta2 said:
It's only cruable if caught early. If left untreated for years, it becomes part of your "dna" so so speak.
If you catch it right away, you can cure it will a lot of meds and change of diet etc. It takes about a yr to kill the infection if you catch it early.

It's a nasty bacteria that is hard to kill.
CA has one of the higest rates of lyme. Dude, seriously, check every bite you ever get.
I'm gonna read up on it right now!
 
blueta2 said:
As some of you know I have lyme disease. Well last week I went away to the mountains to get away and relax from a horrible last 6 months of my life and guess what


http://i32.tinypic.com/27xnolf.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/3344s37.gif

yep, the classic bulls eye lyme rash. I was reinfected last week by a bite.
I've been freaking out for the last 24hrs
I'll be back on meds this week.

Can someone kill me now!


Saw that and responded on the other board. Honey you're just too sweet to resist.
 
RottenWillow said:
Saw that and responded on the other board. Honey you're just too sweet to resist.

Serious S.........I never ever get bit by mosquitos. They never like me, but that night I put on this organic olive oil cream and I bet they loved that
I'm really not that sweet.....hahah

S, can you believe it?!
 
Shit, that sucks you have to get back on meds that make you sick.. I only hope you can kill this thing once and for all.
 
blueta2 said:
Serious S.........I never ever get bit by mosquitos. They never like me, but that night I put on this organic olive oil cream and I bet they loved that
I'm really not that sweet.....hahah

S, can you believe it?!

Ridiculously horrible luck, girl. :(

Maybe people will begin to realize this infection is widespread in our insect populations, and anyone can get it, anytime, anywhere.
 
RottenWillow said:
Ridiculously horrible luck, girl. :(

Maybe people will begin to realize this infection is widespread in our insect populations, and anyone can get it, anytime, anywhere.


You got that right. Lyme is rampant and without proper treatment and research, so many are going to get ill and stay ill.
 
oh man, seriously guys, I'm friggin in tears. I waited for Marc to leave to break down b/c he's seen enough of my tears.
I seriously can't believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Suck's that you got lyme.....but it could be worse...

And thankfully you know what it is and arent one of the people who just ignore it.....
 
Lestat said:
looks like that is from 1991. is it all still relevant now? I hike with a dog many times and he never gets ticks either. When I hike in Phoenix with dogs, they usually end up with a few ticks.


Perhaps you'd like to debate the existence of ticks in CA, or the fact that they can carry lyme disease.
 
jnevin said:
Perhaps you'd like to debate the existence of ticks in CA, or the fact that they can carry lyme disease.
I'm sure they exist, and I'm sure they carry lyme disease. I'm wondering how big of an issue it is, the prevalance lets say. When I used to camp with the family (early 90s, around the time the article came out) there were signs at every campground and trailhead warning about lyme disease. I don't see that anymore so I am wondering what has changed?
 
Lestat, I have tons of lyme info. I'll sift through it and see what I can come up with for lyme in SD. But really, no state or province in North American is exempt because lyme is also carried by bird ticks.
 
chris302001 said:
Suck's that you got lyme.....but it could be worse...

And thankfully you know what it is and arent one of the people who just ignore it.....

Well I was infected with it many years ago and never knew until last Aug. I never knew so it turned into Lupus. I'll have it prob for life, but now that I was reinfection, I'm not sure how I'll respond.

And yes, it could always be worse, you're right
 
Thanks Lestat


Ok found this thread on my lyme site


posted 16 November, 2006 06:35 PM
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I was bitten four years ago in San Diego, standing on cement in a residential area feeding a cat.

My father was bitten in San Diego this summer.

Both of us got rashes, have positive Western Blots. I also have multiple co-infections (other tick-borne diseases).

If you go to the CaliforniaLyme group on yahoo, there is a map on the home page showing the California counties that are high-risk for Lyme. Most are.

Northern California has Lyme risks equivalent to many areas back east.

CALDA is a very helpful group. There is an excellent publication from them called Lyme Times.

I also have brochures regarding California Lyme that I took with me to the doctors' to try to convince them my dad's rash was Lyme. They wouldn't believe us despite my having been bitten here and him having classic rashes and symptoms. So you are not alone in getting a reaction of disbelief.

Most of the Lyme doctors in California are in northern California so you are lucky in that regard.

Jill
 
I think I'd have stayed out of the damned woods if it were me. I don't do the whole camping/hiking thing...not an outdoors person, so my chances of getting Lyme disease are pretty low (I hope!).
 
canadianhitman said:
I think I'd have stayed out of the damned woods if it were me. I don't do the whole camping/hiking thing...not an outdoors person, so my chances of getting Lyme disease are pretty low (I hope!).


me too. fuck that outdoors shit. all you get to show for it is really sick. sucks.
 
timtim said:
me too. fuck that outdoors shit. all you get to show for it is really sick. sucks.


Yup. For me, 'roughing it' is when I have to stay overnight in a smaller town where there are no four-star hotels, so I'm forced to stay in Holiday Inn or a Best Western or something like that. I can't imagine doing the whole sleeping bag in a tent thing.
 
canadianhitman said:
Yup. For me, 'roughing it' is when I have to stay overnight in a smaller town where there are no four-star hotels, so I'm forced to stay in Holiday Inn or a Best Western or something like that. I can't imagine doing the whole sleeping bag in a tent thing.


no a/c. no bathroom. no tv. sounds like fun.
 
Here is some great info on Lyme from CNN taken from Mayo Clinic

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/DS/00116.html

Signs and symptoms

Lyme disease can affect various parts of the body, producing a wide range of signs and symptoms. Not everyone with the disease will have all of the signs and symptoms, and the signs and symptoms of infection in the United States may be different from those in other countries. But in general, Lyme disease can cause:

Rash. A small, red bump may appear within a few days to a month at the site of the tick bite — often in your groin, belt area or behind your knee. It may be warm to the touch and mildly tender. Over the next few days, the redness expands, forming a rash that may be as small as a dime or as large as 12 inches across.
It often resembles a bull's-eye, with a red ring surrounding a clear area and a red center. The rash, called erythema migrans, is one of the hallmarks of Lyme disease, affecting about 80 percent of infected people. If you're allergic to tick saliva, redness may develop at the site of a tick bite.

The redness usually fades within a week. This is not the same as erythema migrans, which tends to expand and get redder over time.
Flu-like symptoms. A fever, chills, fatigue, body aches and a headache may accompany the rash.

Migratory joint pain. If the infection remains untreated, you may develop bouts of severe joint pain and swelling several weeks to months after you're infected. Your knees are especially likely to be affected, but the pain can shift from one joint to another.

Neurological problems. In some cases, inflammation of the membranes surrounding your brain (meningitis), temporary paralysis of one side of your face (Bell's palsy), numbness or weakness in your limbs, and poor muscle movement may occur weeks, months or even years after an untreated infection. Memory loss, difficulty concentrating, and changes in mood or sleep habits also can be symptoms of late-stage Lyme disease.
Less common signs and symptoms. Some people may experience heart problems — such as an irregular heartbeat — several weeks after infection, but this rarely lasts more than a few days or weeks. Eye inflammation, hepatitis and severe fatigue are possible as well.
Skin problems. In Europe, people with advanced Lyme disease may develop skin nodules and patches of thinning skin on their hands, elbows or knees.

Causes



Risk factors

Where you live or vacation can affect your chances of getting Lyme disease. So can your profession and the type of outdoor activities you enjoy. The most common risk factors for Lyme disease include:

Spending time in wooded or grassy areas. In the United States, deer ticks are most prevalent in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, Wisconsin and California.

All have heavily wooded areas where deer ticks thrive. In these regions, children who spend a lot of time outdoors are especially at risk. So are people with outdoor occupations and those who live where mice are common. Deer ticks feed on mice, which are a prime reservoir for Lyme disease bacteria.
 
blueta2 said:
Well I was infected with it many years ago and never knew until last Aug. I never knew so it turned into Lupus. I'll have it prob for life, but now that I was reinfection, I'm not sure how I'll respond.

And yes, it could always be worse, you're right

Yikes.....well, again, glad u saw the bullseye right away this time....
 
canadianhitman said:
I think I'd have stayed out of the damned woods if it were me. I don't do the whole camping/hiking thing...not an outdoors person, so my chances of getting Lyme disease are pretty low (I hope!).

I got infected in my backyard, so you can get this shit anywhere.
 
blue - this sucks! Im so sorry you're going through this. Thankfully you have all the right information and you're far more well informed than the average person. You will get over this. And its ok to break down and just let it all out girl! You need to be able to release your anxieties and fears about this - it will make you stronger to be able to fight this!
 
Sorry that you were re-exposed. Even I, the doubter of chronic Lyme disease, would give you antibiotics for that.

Just remember to eat plenty of yogurt for probiotics so you don't get C. diff from the antibiotics.
 
statdoc said:
Sorry that you were re-exposed. Even I, the doubter of chronic Lyme disease, would give you antibiotics for that.

Just remember to eat plenty of yogurt for probiotics so you don't get C. diff from the antibiotics.

If there is so much thing as chronic LD, why are my labtests still postive for Bb, Bartonella and Babesia after 13 months of treatment?

Rather than doubt the disease it's time you begin to consider doubting the treatment.
 
Stay Strong!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
statdoc said:
Sorry that you were re-exposed. Even I, the doubter of chronic Lyme disease, would give you antibiotics for that.

Just remember to eat plenty of yogurt for probiotics so you don't get C. diff from the antibiotics.


Thanks
Recommended dosage is 200 mgs of doxy for 2 weeks, but lyme dr's recommend 400 mgs of doxy for 6 weeks if caught early.

Yogurt does not have enough units of probiotic so I take 10 billion units a day from a natural cold source.
And for c diff, I was taking s boulardii. I believe hosp use this now under the brand name Floraster.
Of course when I was on super doses of abx, I was taking Flag to ward of c diff, Many lyme patients were still getting c diff though on Flag or Vanco. But the s. boulardii was working instead.

Please want to know more about lyme. It's real and scary. My Reum (who treats me through my lyme dr) was not a believer, but with all the info I sent and from his interaction with me, he's seeing it's real.
His fibro patients are coming forward now getting tested for lyme. Most are coming back with enough bands on the western blots to confirm lyme (IGG and IGM)

Thanks again for your kind words :-)
 
Smurfy said:
blue - this sucks! Im so sorry you're going through this. Thankfully you have all the right information and you're far more well informed than the average person. You will get over this. And its ok to break down and just let it all out girl! You need to be able to release your anxieties and fears about this - it will make you stronger to be able to fight this!


ahhhh, thanks.
I just broke down to my Mom. My poor Mom is so worried. I'll tell ya, the anxiety from this is worse than the aches and pains.
I wish I was more informed on other things like how to make a million bucks in a week or how to get my ass firm in a day ;-)

Hugs...thanks for the truly kind words
 
sorry to harp so much on this insane illness, but I just got this email from the head of the lyme assoc. and want to keep you all informed.


http://health.usnews.com/articles/h...-lyme-disease-takes-controversial-stance.html


New Book on Lyme Disease Takes Controversial Stance
By January W. Payne
Posted June 30, 2008


You get bitten by a tick and then develop a bull's-eye rash—the one you've heard can mean Lyme disease. What should you do next? The best bet is to see a doctor right away, because a prompt prescription for antibiotics can keep the infection from spreading to the nervous system, the heart, and the joints, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Nearly 20,000 cases of Lyme disease were reported to the CDC in 2006. The infection is transmitted to people through the bite of an infected deer tick (aka black-legged tick). Symptoms include fever, fatigue, headache, and a characteristic rash called erythema migrans. Doctors diagnose the condition on the basis of those symptoms if a patient has potentially been exposed to deer ticks.

Many people get Lyme disease, take a few weeks of antibiotics, and recover fully, experts say. But there is also a debate over whether some people, long after being bitten by a tick, continue to be affected by a "chronic" form of Lyme disease. The crux of the issue is whether certain persistent symptoms—including pain, fatigue, and other problems—that some people complain of are due to a lingering Lyme infection rather than some other cause. People in this camp say chronic Lyme symptoms necessitate long-term antibiotic therapy, with pills or IV meds given for months or years.

A new book, called Beating Lyme: Understanding and Treating This Complex and Often Misdiagnosed Disease, provides insight into the arguments that supporters of the chronic Lyme viewpoint make in favor of aggressively treating the condition. The book recounts the experiences of those who say they have long-lasting and at times debilitating symptoms of the condition years after being bitten by a tick. The book just hit store shelves.

Many medical experts, however, don't believe chronic Lyme disease exists. After the infection is initially treated with a few weeks of antibiotics, they maintain, it clears up, making further antibiotic therapy unnecessary. While people with chronic problems after a tick bite may indeed be sick, these doctors say, their symptoms are not due to a lingering Lyme infection, and they risk problems associated with overuse of antibiotics by continuing such treatment.

An October New England Journal of Medicine article took this viewpoint, in contrast to that of the new book. It issued a "critical appraisal" of chronic Lyme disease, a term sometimes used interchangeably with "late Lyme disease." The "chronic" diagnosis is used, according to the NEJM piece, in North America and Europe, for people who experience persistent pain, fatigue, and neurocognitive symptoms, with or without prior evidence of Lyme disease. The article's authors question the use of the term "chronic Lyme" to explain these patients' symptoms—and they say long-term antibiotic therapy isn't the answer to treating these patients. Instead, the goal should be to provide support and management of pain, fatigue, or other symptoms, the authors write, and doctors should explain to patients that no antibiotic can cure lingering symptoms.

Henry M. Feder Jr., the lead author of the NEJM piece, says that he believes some patients still feel ill long after initial treatment for Lyme, but research shows that using antibiotics to treat them long term doesn't work. "It does seem that after Lyme, some people seem to have some lingering complaints," Feder says. Supporters of the chronic Lyme diagnosis argue that such symptoms are due to persistent infections, but Feder says that there have been studies done "where they've treated these patients [with antibiotics], and treatment showed no difference. Further antibiotic therapy didn't help."

Still, some patients, like Beating Lyme's coauthor Constance A. Bean, say that antibiotics—which she took on and off for about 12 years after a 1993 tick bite—made all the difference. "I improved on antibiotics," Bean says. "I stopped having to go to the hospital.... People have to do what works for them."
 
By the way, I also do not believe long term abx are the answer for chronic lyme.
If someone has lingering symptoms, it means they need to work on building their immune system.
I've spoken to 100's of lyme patients and maybe 5% went into remission on long term abx.
 
RottenWillow said:
If there is so much thing as chronic LD, why are my labtests still postive for Bb, Bartonella and Babesia after 13 months of treatment?

Rather than doubt the disease it's time you begin to consider doubting the treatment.

my doc says that, once you've been infected with lyme disease you always test positive. . .the treatment doesn't kill the bugs, it just beats them into submission. . .what sucks is there's no way to tell if you've been reinfected until symptoms show up again. . .
 
damn I am soooo sorry to hear about this. I am so sad for you!

Hopefully you can get through the meds without too much sickness.

this sucks!
 
Wow. I'm really sorry this happened again. I hope the fact that you caught it early makes a huge difference.

I've been thinking about getting gunea hens (spelled wrong, i'm sure). they eat ticks. we already have a bat house up for mosquitos too.
 
man, that is shitty lucky.

maybe its a sign to move or stay out of the woods. fuck!

i have no idea how it works but i hope it aint too bad the 2nd time around :(
 
digimon7068 said:
my doc says that, once you've been infected with lyme disease you always test positive. . .the treatment doesn't kill the bugs, it just beats them into submission. . .what sucks is there's no way to tell if you've been reinfected until symptoms show up again. . .



Here's the thing about testing for lyme. It's all faulty. The typical Elisa test has an 80% failure rate.
If you send your blood to a specialized tick lab (like I did), they are more accurate but produce so many false negatives.
Someone can have full blown lyme and test negative
 
stilleto said:
Wow. I'm really sorry this happened again. I hope the fact that you caught it early makes a huge difference.

I've been thinking about getting gunea hens (spelled wrong, i'm sure). they eat ticks. we already have a bat house up for mosquitos too.


G, you're in one of the highest tick infested areas in the US. You need to get whatever you can to deter the ticks and also check yourself and your kids all the time.
 
calveless wonder said:
man, that is shitty lucky.

maybe its a sign to move or stay out of the woods. fuck!

i have no idea how it works but i hope it aint too bad the 2nd time around :(


I live in the city and go to the woods like NEVER! But I think since lyme is being transmitted by your every day mosquito, I think I just need to build a bubble, crawl into a body suit and live in a sterile lab.

I would look hot in a sterile body suit ;-)
 
blueta2 said:
I live in the city and go to the woods like NEVER! But I think since lyme is being transmitted by your every day mosquito, I think I just need to build a bubble, crawl into a body suit and live in a sterile lab.

I would look hot in a sterile body suit ;-)

I'm thinking saran wrap would work.

Sorry to hear about that. I didn't know you could get it from mosquitoes. I blame global warming
 
velvett said:
Hey blue

How are you doing today?


Hey V :-)

I'm actually doing ok today. I went for some blood tests yesterday, then met my two buddies at the gym. I worked them like dogs :-) I worked out a little also.
Today a little weak cuz of my monthly DEVIL, but doing ok?!
Keeping my fingers crossed

hope you are doing well?!
 
blueta2 said:
Hey V :-)

I'm actually doing ok today. I went for some blood tests yesterday, then met my two buddies at the gym. I worked them like dogs :-) I worked out a little also.
Today a little weak cuz of my monthly DEVIL, but doing ok?!
Keeping my fingers crossed

hope you are doing well?!


Good to hear - LOL - I call him Lucifer too.

Hangin' in there, never know what tomorrow brings, had my blood work and MRI this week too.

If I can go kayaking this weekend I'll be a very happy girl.

:rose:
 
blueta2 said:
G, you're in one of the highest tick infested areas in the US. You need to get whatever you can to deter the ticks and also check yourself and your kids all the time.

i know i am.
this area is insane and my house is in the middle of the woods. the bats help a LOT though. there are tons out at night.
 
velvett said:
Good to hear - LOL - I call him Lucifer too.

Hangin' in there, never know what tomorrow brings, had my blood work and MRI this week too.

If I can go kayaking this weekend I'll be a very happy girl.

:rose:

I'll send you tons of good vibes so you can go kayaking ;-)
Hope all goes well with those tests.
:heart:
 
stilleto said:
i know i am.
this area is insane and my house is in the middle of the woods. the bats help a LOT though. there are tons out at night.


There are a lot of bats around here also, but they are out day and night and complain and cause trouble and yell at me for blocking their paths

;-)
 
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