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A cycle for those on HRT?

Hello everyone my name is Ulter and I am a steroid user.

I have been using steroids most of the last 20 years. When I was young my testes didn't make enough test. I didn't know this until much later and never gave it much thought. There were upsides like not getting acne in high school, but there were down sides like not growing facial hair, having a normal sex drive, or being able to hold more than 140 pounds on my 6 foot frame. In my mid 20's I discovered steroids. They changed everything. By 31 I was 255 pounds and screwed everything in my path.
Fast forward to July 4, 2000. I am 44 and discovered Dr Scruggs. What a great doctor. He would write me a script for 200mg/wk of test and 200mg/wk of deca and gh and oxandrolone and my insurance paid for it all. I was on my first cycle with him about 6 weeks when I asked him, "when do I have to come off". He said, "why do you want to come off?". Well, I didn't have an answer for that. So I stayed on. In my research I learned that, as was mentioned here, researchers were now using up to 600mg/wk of test to measure it's effects. The U of Iowa was using 500mg/wk. After looking at the Shandi and several other reviews of steroids literature I learned that the use of test at 500mg/wk was not dangerous at all. In fact there was no evidence that there was any linear decline in health from 100mg/wk to 600mg/wk. NONE. So I called Dr Scruggs and we talked about it for about an hour. In his 20 years of giving out test/deca to body builders he had found that there was no decline in the health of his patients even after many years of 300mg/wk test and 300mg/wk of deca. Well that was enough for me.

Right now and for the last 3 years I have used 400-500mg/wk of test and 300-400mg of deca. My blood work is clear and my echostress shows the heart of a track star. The cardiologist tells me I am his healthiest patient.
When I want to cycle, which is about 5 times a year for 6 weeks, sometimes 8, I will adjust the doses according to what I want to do with my body at the time and then just go back to me 500/400 dose when I am done.
I should add here that I use the deca because when I don't I can't even put my coat on by myself without great pain in my shoulders that have been scoped twice to no avail. And for those of you who wonder about sterility. That’s a myth. My sperm count is excellent.

My current cycle is to add size I lost last year when I couldn’t train due to a metal plate/bone fusion in my neck. Where it meets my traps. I guess I herniated it over the years setting the bar back there for squats.
Anyways, I added NPP at 800mg, dropped the deca and rose the test to 800mg. THIS is working very well for me now that I added the ISO AGB we sell as a my protein supplement. I had always used food for protein. I am only about 10-15 pounds away from my target of 230 and my legs suck not doing squats anymore.
I will finish this cycle and go back to my 500/400 routine in about 3 weeks from now.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
 
ulter said:
I should add here that I use the deca because when I don't I can't even put my coat on by myself without great pain in my shoulders that have been scoped twice to no avail. And for those of you who wonder about sterility. That’s a myth. My sperm count is excellent.

How can you say it's a myth when there are people all over the world working on a male birth control method involving testosterone and/or progestins?
 
Dial_tone said:
In the WHO trials, two-thirds of men were rendered azoospermic (ie, having sperm counts of zero), while 91% of the men achieved sperm counts below 1 x 106/mL (normal value, > 20 x 106/mL).3

http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/172_06_200300/mclachlan/mclachlan.html

2/3 is unacceptable and probably why they dropped it. Like I said, ask your endo if AS is an acceptable male contraceptive. The party line for endo's is no.

I just realized I didn't put HCG in my routine. I use HCG at 1000iu/day for ten days about every 3-4 months. I also take Aromasin every day. This offsets any effects of the AS on my sperm production and probably explains how pros like Ronnie Coleman can have children.
 
most of the info i'm seeing indicates it's probably 5-6 years away.
 
ulter said:
2/3 is unacceptable and probably why they dropped it. Like I said, ask your endo if AS is an acceptable male contraceptive. The party line for endo's is no.

I just realized I didn't put HCG in my routine. I use HCG at 1000iu/day for ten days about every 3-4 months. I also take Aromasin every day. This offsets any effects of the AS on my sperm production and probably explains how pros like Ronnie Coleman can have children.
I'm using arimidex .5mg/EOD and use 500iu HCG M, W, F for three weeks about every 3 months. I'm not worried about sperm production since I had that leak fixed YEARS ago.
 
I'm not worried about sperm count as long as it's recoverable. My main concerns are liver and prostate damage. I pretty much have the liver under control since the only oral I use is anavar and I take 6-8 r-ALA tabs ED. I added finasteride this week for the prostate.
 
There are more studies proving AS doesn't affect your prostate than there are concluding it does. Again I say myth. Even LEF literature doesn't support prostate issues as a concern. Liver is silly to worry about with injectables and with Glucorell R your liver cells excellerate their reproduction. You'll be fine.

You should go over to our Bjaarki Library at AnabolicFitness.com and check out some of the AS literature reviews. All the studies in the library are the full studies and not abstracts.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
That notion of running just a maintenance dose of test (100mg/wk) with 300 - 400mg of either deca or EQ and rotating them every 8 weeks or so appeals to me like crazy.

I'm still tweaking this idea and now I'm thinking of working Anavar and Primo into the rotation, now that I've found a legit source.
 
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