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stilleto

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We owe you an apology. Earlier, we accused you of being a number of alters that had done some less than nice things.

after investigating futher, we've realized that one/some/all of those may not have been you, other than the latest one that we know for a fact is. That's the most harmless one and since we don't know for sure about the others, and you say they are not you- we're taking your word for it.

Please accept our apology.


ps. i'm doing this here rather than a pm because you were accused here, rather than a pm.

thanks.
 
thank u stilleto. no worries. i completely understand considering your positions and obligations to EF, Admin, & George. u have a duty to protect this site and its members and i appreciate that.

i harbour no hatred nor ill will toward anyone here. i still love u all. :heart:
 
everyone alters from time to time
some alters get a pass
others create a stir
some alters survive for yrs and yrs (gonelifting's gut, heks)
other alters get bant before firing off one post (all mine as of late :( )
let's forgive and forget, bring back plat 8and20!
 
so those alters that digger exposed were not him?

If so, I apologize as well, I took digger's word to be truth.
 
Bino said:
everyone alters from time to time
some alters get a pass
others create a stir
some alters survive for yrs and yrs (gonelifting's gut, heks)
other alters get bant before firing off one post (all mine as of late :( )
let's forgive and forget, bring back plat 8and20!
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Yeah, my dermacrine got axed :(


But its ok, I got a few more that have survived for months :evil:
 
Lestat said:
so those alters that digger exposed were not him?

If so, I apologize as well, I took digger's word to be truth.
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they may, or may not have been him.
as digger said in another thread, all were using the same proxy server. huge coincidence? maybe.

maybe.
 
stilleto said:
they may, or may not have been him.
as digger said in another thread, all were using the same proxy server. huge coincidence? maybe.

maybe.
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gotcha, I just saw that and replied to digger there.

sounds like a classic case of jumping to conclusions. we're all human here, mistakes happen.
 
i had a feeling it wasnt him ..just sounded 2 far fetched .. give him back hiz stripes IMO
 
hurricane187 said:
i had a feeling it wasnt him ..just sounded 2 far fetched .. give him back hiz stripes IMO
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in their defense i dont think they took anything from me, as far as i know. i quickly changed my name the morning after. i was embarassed by my actions. that automatically reverted my account back to non-plat non-mentor. perhpas that punishment was on its way already but i accidentally did it to myself in an effort to hide and cool off.

it has happened before. anytime i make an account change or purchase something through the EF store it does that. EF Frank usually fixes it or it fixes itself. i am more concerned with clearing myself at this point. hopefully another scandal will soon make everyone forget this.

i made a mistake and i know better. i have learned from it and hope to progress forward.
 
GUARDIAN said:
in their defense i dont think they took anything from me, as far as i know. i quickly changed my name the morning after. i was embarassed by my actions. that automatically reverted my account back to non-plat non-mentor. perhpas that punishment was on its way already but i accidentally did it to myself in an effort to hide and cool off.

it has happened before. anytime i make an account change or purchase something through the EF store it does that. EF Frank usually fixes it or it fixes itself. i am more concerned with clearing myself at this point. hopefully another scandal will soon make everyone forget this.

i made a mistake and i know better. i have learned from it and hope to progress forward.
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embarrassed for making that silverstar alter? wtf bro, nothing to be embarrassed about, just some good natured fun is all you were attempting right?
plenty of alters have been created and the reaction to their creation has been lols not this hoopla.
 
GUARDIAN said:
in their defense i dont think they took anything from me, as far as i know. i quickly changed my name the morning after. i was embarassed by my actions. that automatically reverted my account back to non-plat non-mentor. perhpas that punishment was on its way already but i accidentally did it to myself in an effort to hide and cool off.

it has happened before. anytime i make an account change or purchase something through the EF store it does that. EF Frank usually fixes it or it fixes itself. i am more concerned with clearing myself at this point. hopefully another scandal will soon make everyone forget this.

i made a mistake and i know better. i have learned from it and hope to progress forward.
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I accept your apology.




lololol
 
Lestat said:
gotcha, I just saw that and replied to digger there.

sounds like a classic case of jumping to conclusions. we're all human here, mistakes happen.
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it's not a matter of jumping to conclusions. It's a matter of no proof and someone's word.
 
Bino said:
embarrassed for making that silverstar alter? wtf bro, nothing to be embarrassed about, just some good natured fun is all you were attempting right?
plenty of alters have been created and the reaction to their creation has been lols not this hoopla.
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i meant nothing malicious however i should of been setting a better example. i instead created headache and extra work for those trying to protect the site.
 
Lestat said:
so those alters that digger exposed were not him?

If so, I apologize as well, I took digger's word to be truth.
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Same here 8and20. I didnt even think the guardian was really him. I appologize as well :(
 
GUARDIAN said:
in their defense i dont think they took anything from me, as far as i know. i quickly changed my name the morning after. i was embarassed by my actions. that automatically reverted my account back to non-plat non-mentor. perhpas that punishment was on its way already but i accidentally did it to myself in an effort to hide and cool off.

it has happened before. anytime i make an account change or purchase something through the EF store it does that. EF Frank usually fixes it or it fixes itself. i am more concerned with clearing myself at this point. hopefully another scandal will soon make everyone forget this.

i made a mistake and i know better. i have learned from it and hope to progress forward.
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Your forgiven! Now give me all your karma! :)
 
wait a sec, you were silverstar??? what did you think of my cock pics?
 
Lestat said:
gotcha, I just saw that and replied to digger there.

sounds like a classic case of jumping to conclusions. we're all human here, mistakes happen.
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no jumping to conclusions. depends on the standard of proof. preponderance of the evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt.

for instance one of the alledged alters (echo4nineteen) also has alot of its very few posts on 8and20 threads.

Like stilleto said, huge coincidence? maybe.....maybe.

But with the proxy issue, enough to get a hung jury using the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.
 
ceo said:
he ain't banned...he's posting!
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lol...oops wrong usage of terminology...it was thought he got banned....or his original account name got banned? Is that accurate...I dnt knw how it worked out...but I'm frickin on the edge of my seat :evil:
 
Mavafanculo said:
no jumping to conclusions. depends on the standard of proof. preponderance of the evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt.

for instance one of the alledged alters (echo4nineteen) also has alot of its very few posts on 8and20 threads.

Like stilleto said, huge coincidence? maybe.....maybe.

But with the proxy issue, enough to get a hung jury using the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard.
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Lets also not forget he had to be asked 3-4 times to come clean about the first alter. Thats did not help him when the other alters came into question, And still leaves some doubt.


I myself know how it feels to be in a spot like this though. So just like they told me when I was in the spot. Its going to take a long time. :)
 
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