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I said the bottom line was and still is is that these drugs are powerful enuff to put someone over the edge. The poor kid is gone (BOTTOM LINE). If he never took juice he prolly would not have had to see a friggin phsyc and not to mention all the other sides a TEENAGER can get from spiking/dropping test levels. I wouldn't say any of the above if he had been over 18. But this KID was 16 cmon gentleman. If you knew him personally would have layed out his cycle for him? The teenager that is? If you answer yes then your the reason as the guy who sold him the juice is the reason y we are all getting fucked when we want to use aas responsibly as adults. Lets not beat around the bush bro he juiced lost his marbles and now he's gone. It wasn't a car accident he didn't drown he took his own life. AAS aren't bad when used properly and when they are understood.
 
And i hope ur not trying to justify aas use in non adults cause if u r this is a bad example man. I'm just pointing out the ooposite and how important it is to hold off as long as possible. Laters
 
karachi183 said:
not2be
I said the bottom line was and still is is that these drugs are powerful enuff to put someone over the edge. The poor kid is gone (BOTTOM LINE). If he never took juice he prolly would not have had to see a friggin phsyc and not to mention all the other sides a TEENAGER can get from spiking/dropping test levels. I wouldn't say any of the above if he had been over 18. But this KID was 16 cmon gentleman. If you knew him personally would have layed out his cycle for him? The teenager that is? If you answer yes then your the reason as the guy who sold him the juice is the reason y we are all getting fucked when we want to use aas responsibly as adults. Lets not beat around the bush bro he juiced lost his marbles and now he's gone. It wasn't a car accident he didn't drown he took his own life. AAS aren't bad when used properly and when they are understood.

The issue I have with this is that there isn't evidence that his suicide was caused by AAS. Yes, he used AAS. He also stole from his parents. He also lied to his parents. He was also grounded, and PLEADED with his mother to not ground him. She refused and so he killed himself. So, now are you going to go blame his mother for his suicide because she REFUSED to not ground him? Which spurious correlation would you like to attribute for your own convenience?
 
The issue I have with this is that there isn't evidence that his suicide was caused by AAS.

Of course not! AAS isn't heroin or blow.... But it will change you mentally/physically/personally.. Now are you gonna say that is wrong statement?
 
Gentleman i am not one for arguing or confrontation but would advise ur 16 yold brother or cousin to do a cycle of test/dbol etc... In no way am i bashing the use in adults but in our youth cmon. What if this was ur kid.
 
karachi183 said:
The issue I have with this is that there isn't evidence that his suicide was caused by AAS.

Of course not! AAS isn't heroin or blow.... But it will change you mentally/physically/personally.. Now are you gonna say that is wrong statement?

Why would I disagree with that? Anything you take into your body changes you one way or another. Just as lying, stealing, etc will change you mentally, emotionally and personally. Not to mention the changes physically and mentally he was already going through as a young man.

Having said that, it's still doesn't establish correlation of his choice in taking his own life with any of the changes going on in his life at the time. The conclusion that AAS was the "cause" is what I'm challenging.
 
Ok... good point.
The conclusion that AAS was the "cause" is what I'm challenging.

In this young teen the above mentioned is quit evident.
 
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