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Pat, I am a registered Biochemist witht the Univ. Of Pennsylvania. I would appreciated if you would not bash me as I know you do not like it when people try to make up lies about you and say you lied about your 4ad studies. The company I am starting has nothing t do witht he 6oxo and no I am not biased. Really my compnay has 1 produt so far, and rugh now all it is is a small local company with no larg base, I am sure you had to start from the bottom and not too any people new who you were when you started this. I have othing against you, frankly I think your a great guy who i respect and if it wasnt for you I wold not be doing this. I just dont want people to get the wrong idea of me by you calling me a liar or fraud, I jsut want a fair chance at doing my best with this company.
 
nsruffryder34 said:
Pat, I am a registered Biochemist witht the Univ. Of Pennsylvania. I would appreciated if you would not bash me as I know you do not like it when people try to make up lies about you and say you lied about your 4ad studies.


Be truthful to me and I will be respectful to you. Try to bullshit me and I will let you have it.

Also, please do not call yourself a "registered biochemist" anymore. There is no such title in the real world. YOu are enrolled in the undergraduate school of biochemistry at a university. That is what you should tell people. Please do not try to deceive people with plays on words

Thanks
 
Pat, I have been very truthful with you and with everyone else on this board. Yes, I should have used etter words, and no I am not denying that or trying to be decietful. I am going to try and run this company in an honest and professional way. I do not want to be one of the many companies that aresimply about poor products and big hype. I want to be in this for the long run. I highly respect your opinions and take your advice seriously. I assure you I am not trying to lie to anyone, everyone knows lies will always come back to hurt you and I really do not want this to happen.
 
nsruffryder34 said:
Pat, I have been very truthful with you and with everyone else on this board. Yes, I should have used etter words, and no I am not denying that or trying to be decietful. I am going to try and run this company in an honest and professional way. I do not want to be one of the many companies that aresimply about poor products and big hype. I want to be in this for the long run. I highly respect your opinions and take your advice seriously. I assure you I am not trying to lie to anyone, everyone knows lies will always come back to hurt you and I really do not want this to happen.


If honesty is gonna be the cornerstone of your new company then I don't think you are off to a good start here. No matter how I slice it, you lied to me in order to allow yourself access to my clinical study data. I am trying, but I really can't see any interpretation from the following other than deceit:

"I have no ties to any supplement company or the workers of any and I am not biased to any company "
 
pa1ad said:
I would like to suggest Dr. Dan Gwartney, a very intelligent and honest individual with no financial interests in any of this whatsoever.

Unless someone can give me a reason why Dr. Dan is inappropriate, then that will be our guy.


Yes, no???


Let's get this thread back on track.

Pat, what's the status of the review by Dr. Dan?
 
Triple J said:



Let's get this thread back on track.

Pat, what's the status of the review by Dr. Dan?


Well, I got no response on this thread from macrophage or anyone else giving Dr. Dan the OK. Therefore I have to assume that they either think Dan is unsuitable or they don't care anymore.

I get very tired of bullshit from people. They talk and talk and not much else

YOu seem like a nice fella though. Most guys are nice fellas. Some guys just want to be pricks though. It gets tiring
 
My two-cents worth regarding 6-OXO:

I came off a 4-week 1-AD/Boldione cycle last week, and have been using 6-OXO along with Avena Sativa and Nettle Root. (Bought them from BAC and capped them myself.)

I'm not sure which of these is responsible (Pat did say there might be some synergy between them), but I haven't lost any of the 10 lbs I put on, strength is still going up, plenty of morning wood and actual libido (getting' horny), and skin is getting oily. It actually feels to me like the post-cycle supps are doing more than the PH's were.

Anyway, one person's empirical evidence doesn't count for much, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.
 
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