6% BF without Cardio?

[mindbodysoul]

Ok, my current workout plan has been to hit cardio hard for about 30 minutes then lift for the last hour. I do this 5x a week. I'm starting to look real good and I like the results, but someone told me that I was taking nutrients away from my weight lifting by doing it in this order.

When I started I had about 22% BF and now I am close to the 10-12% range. I had it tested electronically but I need to get back in and have the skin clamp done so I know exactly how much I have.

But anyway my question is:

Can you get a 6% Body Fat without doing cardio? I was under the assumption you HAD to do cardio to keep your BF at a 10 or below. Am I wrong?

Please advise.

 

[Heath1282]

if your diet is dialed in, you can reach any bf without cardio... personally, id lift and then do cardio after lifting. do whatever works for you, as youve already come a long way!

 

[1500]

I know a lot of puny dudes that are close to 6%. But they dont touch weights and they dont eat. They look like shit. It all depends on what you eat, like the above stated, and what your workout routine looks like. I dont know any bodybuilder's who have physiques of 6% without cardio.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

The cardio should always be done after free weights and if you take the fat off slowly you will get better end results.

 

[mwm5]

i do 0 cardio and was at 7% three weeks ago. i'm not huge (not my goal) but i have been gaining a lot of weight without adding any fat, i've actually been adding weight and losing bf. good diet is the key.

 

[eddymerckx]

if i don't do cardio--and this is with a clean diet, i cannot get under 12%---but i have been an extreme cardio guy (sponsored runner....about 100 years ago) so my guess is i end-up slowing my metabolism down as a survival response.....

...i mention clean diet but it may also be that i end-up eating too late or too soon before bed. but that is what they make baggy clothes for anyway.

in any event, cardio is good and the amount that improves health is minimal and will not hurt growth if done correctly.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

The cardio should always be done after free weights

+1

You want to do the cardio AFTER the weights so that you have already burned up all your glycogen (stored carbs) during the weight lifting. This leaves only fat to be burned during the cardio.

 

[REGIONS]

I am going to actually focus on cardio primarily for the next couple months and keep my lifting at a minimum.I am getting tired and burnt out.My sleeping habits are becoming shit and I am slipping.I think doing cardio primarily will just add a change up of things for me.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

I am going to actually focus on cardio primarily for the next couple months and keep my lifting at a minimum.I am getting tired and burnt out.My sleeping habits are becoming shit and I am slipping.I think doing cardio primarily will just add a change up of things for me.

I have done up to 2 hours a day of cardio in the past to experiment and see were it would take my bf levels and all it did was flatten me out and make me look skinny. The best results I have ever gotten was doing cardio at 45 min a day max every other day or every 2-3 days random and eating low carb 4-5 days a week then a clean carb up. This was the best I have ever looked. Took in carbs pwo only 5 days a week then the rest of the carbs would come from veggies in the form of fiber.

 

[EZ_E]

Ok, my current workout plan has been to hit cardio hard for about 30 minutes then lift for the last hour. I do this 5x a week. I'm starting to look real good and I like the results, but someone told me that I was taking nutrients away from my weight lifting by doing it in this order.

When I started I had about 22% BF and now I am close to the 10-12% range. I had it tested electronically but I need to get back in and have the skin clamp done so I know exactly how much I have.

But anyway my question is:

Can you get a 6% Body Fat without doing cardio? I was under the assumption you HAD to do cardio to keep your BF at a 10 or below. Am I wrong?

Please advise.

If you went from 22-10& BF it seems like whatever your doing is working

(for you)

nice job!

 

[Burpees]

cardio makes it easy to achieve a caloric deficit..conditioning is 90% diet.

dead lift, squat, row, bench, and eat right and you can get ripped without ever going faster than your walking pace..

 

[Just Add Muscle]

cardio makes it easy to achieve a caloric deficit..conditioning is 90% diet.

dead lift, squat, row, bench, and eat right and you can get ripped without ever going faster than your walking pace..

+1

 

[chazk]

man , I dont wanna sound like the steroid advising duffus but , to get down to a true 6% bf ( hyrdostatic underwater measurements) some one would ether have to have a super fast metabolism. Or use say 25- 50 mcgs of t-3 with a low dose of test 200mg a week ,tren 75mg eod with winstrol 25mg eod to come in that low without losing much muscle.
I have read one a person gets down below 8% bf the catobolsim starts to take hold and eats up muscle pretty quick

 

[Burpees]

man , I dont wanna sound like the steroid advising duffus but , to get down to a true 6% bf ( hyrdostatic underwater measurements) some one would ether have to have a super fast metabolism. Or use say 25- 50 mcgs of t-3 with a low dose of test 200mg a week ,tren 75mg eod with winstrol 25mg eod to come in that low without losing much muscle.
I have read one a person gets down below 8% bf the catobolsim starts to take hold and eats up muscle pretty quick

being 6% and looking 6% is different for everyone.. I look bigger and leaner than I am..i'm ok with it dieting while I enjoy this delicious roast beef sub.. lol.. you're right though.. genetics play a big role.. I'd never be able to do it.. even at my leanest I have body fat the jiggles if I shake hard enough.

smoke and mirrors, this game is all about illusion..

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

man , I dont wanna sound like the steroid advising duffus but , to get down to a true 6% bf ( hyrdostatic underwater measurements) some one would ether have to have a super fast metabolism. Or use say 25- 50 mcgs of t-3 with a low dose of test 200mg a week ,tren 75mg eod with winstrol 25mg eod to come in that low without losing much muscle.
I have read one a person gets down below 8% bf the catobolsim starts to take hold and eats up muscle pretty quick

I think the real question is why would someone even want to be below 8% bf unless competing? The only people that I know with that low bf that don't compete have freaky genetics, and are really slim.

 

[Greatercow]

8 % bf for every day life is pretty damn good i know i would be more than pleased with it

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

8 % bf for every day life is pretty damn good i know i would be more than pleased with it

Yup that's my final goal. For now I would be more than happy around 10-12%.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Ive been tested at 8% and let me tell you it is a bitch to maintain and not worth it.

 

[Greatercow]

yea unless competing it just seems like its not really worth the sacrifices

 

[timtim]

Ive been tested at 8% and let me tell you it is a bitch to maintain and not worth it.

fuck ya. i keep trying to get back down and i realize what got me there: starving myself and loads of cardio. totally not worth it. ill deal with 10% and be a happy camper.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

if diet is 100% spot on right ratios and calories u shouldn't need cardio

 

[timtim]

if diet is 100% spot on right ratios and calories u shouldn't need cardio

totally false for a large number of people. you are right for a select few who are genetically lean. everyone else requires cardio.

 

[1500]

totally false for a large number of people. you are right for a select few who are genetically lean. everyone else requires cardio.

very true. I have a feeling that some people on here really dont understand what 6% is and looks like, lol.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

very true. I have a feeling that some people on here really dont understand what 6% is and looks like, lol.

I would imagine that what a lot of people see when they think 6% is more like 9% in reality.

 

[dabuffguy]

very true. I have a feeling that some people on here really dont understand what 6% is and looks like, lol.

6% BF is gross looking. For competition, it looks fantastic, but to have that leanness is very unnatural and weird looking. I was in vegas and met a few IFBB pros, and this was a few weks before olympia, and let me tell you, the leanness is absolutely amazing, but very freakish looking.

any lower than 8% is too low (for trying to bulid good mass) unless you are going to compete soon.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

if your diet is dialed in, you can reach any bf without cardio... personally, id lift and then do cardio after lifting. do whatever works for you, as youve already come a long way!

Sorry, I have to call BS. There is NO WAY IN HELL I can reach 6%bf without cardio. It's just not possible for me. Yes, my diet is spot on as well as my training.

For some guys who are already lean, maybe.

 

[DSS]

+1

You want to do the cardio AFTER the weights so that you have already burned up all your glycogen (stored carbs) during the weight lifting. This leaves only fat to be burned during the cardio.

I have heard Charles Glass give this exact same explanation.....I would take this as sound advice.

 

[Mr. Black]

When I had the pic in my av done I think I was ~8%. This was done without cardio. I am sure if I simply increased the no. of sets or cut down rest time between sets, I could have dropped another point or 2.

 

[Greatercow]

When I had the pic in my av done I think I was ~8%. This was done without cardio. I am sure if I simply increased the no. of sets or cut down rest time between sets, I could have dropped another point or 2.

yea but gettin to 6% at 170 lbs is way easier than maintaining a mass of 240lbs and still be 6% i think there comes a certain weigh when u just cant not do cardio because of all the cals you have to eat to keep the mass

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

yea but gettin to 6% at 170 lbs is way easier than maintaining a mass of 240lbs and still be 6% i think there comes a certain weigh when u just cant not do cardio because of all the cals you have to eat to keep the mass

Exactly. Good post K for you.

 

[Mr. Black]

yea but gettin to 6% at 170 lbs is way easier than maintaining a mass of 240lbs and still be 6% i think there comes a certain weigh when u just cant not do cardio because of all the cals you have to eat to keep the mass

Unless the original poster is a competing heavyweight (which by reading his thread I doubt he is), comparisons of 240lbs with 6%BF are pointless.

 

[timtim]

Unless the original poster is a competing heavyweight (which by reading his thread I doubt he is), comparisons of 240lbs with 6%BF are pointless.

but the point is still valid. you look fantastic in your avi but you couldnt step on stage and compete as a bber like that. there is a difference and body type/genetics has alot more to do with it than doing/not doing cardio.

 

[justinbarth]

Ok, my current workout plan has been to hit cardio hard for about 30 minutes then lift for the last hour. I do this 5x a week. I'm starting to look real good and I like the results, but someone told me that I was taking nutrients away from my weight lifting by doing it in this order.

When I started I had about 22% BF and now I am close to the 10-12% range. I had it tested electronically but I need to get back in and have the skin clamp done so I know exactly how much I have.

But anyway my question is:

Can you get a 6% Body Fat without doing cardio? I was under the assumption you HAD to do cardio to keep your BF at a 10 or below. Am I wrong?

Please advise.

much of this depends on genetics....but hgh allows you to keep your body fat much lower with much less cardio thus allowing you to train weight harder

 

[Greatercow]

much of this depends on genetics....but hgh allows you to keep your body fat much lower with much less cardio thus allowing you to train weight harder

there are so many damn options before resigning to HGH ... the answer shouldnt always be to take a drug... hwo about doing cardio in the morning ? and lifting in the pm ? wont take your nutrients away if your diet is on key ..

amazes me how some people are willing to spend thousands of $$$ and growing excess bone rather than making the sacrifice of waking up 45 mins earlier..

 

[Mr. Black]

but the point is still valid. .

Yes it is valid, if Mindbodysoul's goal is to 240lbs @ 6%BF

you couldnt step on stage and compete as a bber like that.

Where did I say that I could? My goal is not to be a competing bodybuilder.

 

[Greatercow]

Yes it is valid, if Mindbodysoul's goal is to 240lbs @ 6%BF

bro the point was that when you reach a certain weight and this depends on each individual person you just cant not be doing cardio to cut up some bf because of eating the necessary food to maintain all your muscle mass maybe you havent reached it just yet thats all im saying

the 240 lbs were ust to make my point ... i couldve used 135 lbs 6 % bf and 200 lbs 6 %bf doesnt matter just an example

 

[timtim]

Yes it is valid, if Mindbodysoul's goal is to 240lbs @ 6%BF




Where did I say I could?

im not trying to sound like a jerkoff, i know you did not say you would compete. i think that was the jist of the thread though. in my opinion, your look is the ideal, but for 80% of the population, getting to you is cardio. for me, getting to 8% was starvation and double sessions of cardio. i could cut/limit calories all i want, the fat wouldnt move.

 

[Mr. Black]

bro the point was that when you reach a certain weight and this depends on each individual person you just cant not be doing cardio to cut up some bf because of eating the necessary food to maintain all your muscle mass maybe you havent reached it just yet thats all im saying

the 240 lbs were ust to make my point ... i couldve used 135 lbs 6 % bf and 200 lbs 6 %bf doesnt matter just an example

I remember reading one of AAP's posts whereby he states his weight of ~240lbs and is able to stay quite lean simply by closely monitoring his diet and of course incorporating hardcore workouts. Whether or not he could reach 6% is hard to say...

 

[Mr. Black]

im not trying to sound like a jerkoff, i know you did not say you would compete. i think that was the jist of the thread though. in my opinion, your look is the ideal, but for 80% of the population, getting to you is cardio. for me, getting to 8% was starvation and double sessions of cardio. i could cut/limit calories all i want, the fat wouldnt move.

No worries. Questions for you though...How much do you weigh and how many calories were you takin in when you trying to lean up?

 

[timtim]

No worries. Questions for you though...How much do you weigh and how many calories were you takin in when you trying to lean up?

now 5'5" 205, bf around 11.

when i got down i was 175 to 180, calories were around 1500 a day with a big refeed on sundays. i did this 4 times over the course of 4 years. since ive preferred being closer to 10% and 190. right now im on and am carrying water weight and bloat. this is my last cycle. im done and am going natural. looking forward to it.

 

[pappad]

I am 6'2 and 230lbs. Not sure what my BF is right now but my top 4 abs are present. My goal is to be around 250lbs @ 10% BF

I just don't want to try to live below 10% as I never plan on competing, just getting bigger!