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5x5 routine

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I have been experiencing many routiens in my 7 years of training and I was wondering what is the 5x 5 routine like.

Could anyone give me more details about it?

What results did you get so far and how long have you used the 5x 5 routine?
 
There's a version of the 5x5 that I've posted about a bunch of times, it's worked wonders in strength and size for me
 
needsize said:
There's a version of the 5x5 that I've posted about a bunch of times, it's worked wonders in strength and size for me

Care to post it one more time?

Do you do 5x5 for every muscle group? Do you use the same weight for each set?
 
needsize said:
There's a version of the 5x5 that I've posted about a bunch of times, it's worked wonders in strength and size for me

Whoa... no mentor status for you??? What's up with THAT?!

C-ditty
 
There have been a whole lot of guys from here and guys I train in real ife that have used this program with a ton of success, but it has to be done right. Hell, at least the last 40lbs of mass that I've gained have come from it, one one of the variations I've used.


Its a variation of the old 5x5 routine, tailored to the bodybuilder. The basis of the routine is that you pick a compound exercise for each bodypart, ie, bench press, squat, deads, clsoe grip bench, standing barbell curls, etc. This first exercise you do for 5 sets of 5 reps on the same weight. Afterwards you pick 2 other exercises, for 2 sets of 8-10 reps, for a total of 9 working sets.
Heres an example for chest:

Flat bench press 5x5
Incline dumbell press 2x8-10
Incline dumbell flyes 2x8-10

There are a few keys to making this program work. You must use the same weight for all sets of 5. As soon as you are able to hit 5x5 in good form on that weight, add a small amount of weight, say 2 1/2lb plates and do it again next workout.
When you first start the program, pick weights that you can easily nail your reps on and focus on good form. For example, say you can bench 225 for a set of 8. Week one of 5x5 use 205lbs for 5x5. You should nail it, so week 2 do 210lbs 5x5, and so on for as long as you can keep adding weight. What usually happens is that when you get back to your old previous working weight, it'll feel like a joke and you'll keep adding weight.

With this program, you are hitting both fast and slow twitch muscle fibres, so you get maximum growth. But you also get crazy strength if done right. For example, I'm not a powerlifter and dont train for strength, but recently i decided to try a max deadlift for shits and giggles. I ripped up a 600lb dead with no straps or belts, and the rest of my lifts are almost as good (bench over 400 and squat over 500)
 
It sounds cool! I will give it a try.

Needsize, how long have u been doing thsi routine? How long do you intend to keep doing it?
 
I first did it about 5 years ago and gained so much it looked like I was on juice. I've been doing it on and off since then, but a program only works for so long, so I've invented other variations. For examply, I'll do 5 sets of 3 reps instead, that way I can go really heavy, thats a good way to keep adding weight after you cant anymore with 5 reps. Sometimes you just need to switch it up completely and I'll throw in a oddball routine for shock value, but the core of my training is always based around this, and it has worked well
 
needsize said:
I first did it about 5 years ago and gained so much it looked like I was on juice. I've been doing it on and off since then, but a program only works for so long, so I've invented other variations. For examply, I'll do 5 sets of 3 reps instead, that way I can go really heavy, thats a good way to keep adding weight after you cant anymore with 5 reps. Sometimes you just need to switch it up completely and I'll throw in a oddball routine for shock value, but the core of my training is always based around this, and it has worked well

Does the 5x5 routine applies for small muscle group, i.e., bis and tris too?

I usually do no more than 6-8 sets per small muscle groups.

Or maybe , I can add some variation for small muscle group and do 3x5 routine and 2 other exercises , each 2 x10. Total=7 sets.

I do no more than 10-12 sets per large muscle groups and 6-8 per small muscle groups..

There are many variations that can be tried and experienced.
 
For smaller muscles you can do 5x5, then 2x8-10 and leave it at that
ie
Standing barbell curls 5x5
Incline dumbell curls 2x8-10 reps
however, you can do the full 9 set program even for smaller muscles as its not as taxing as you would think as the 5x5 sets rent all to failure
 
Citruscide said:
Ask SofaGeroge, he loves 5x5. :)

C-ditty

I absolutely love it... best routine I've ever found... but I stole everything I know by copying Needsize's routine and reading his posts. I'm actually almost doing Needsize's old routine now... except for legs.
 
SofaGeorge said:


I absolutely love it... best routine I've ever found... but I stole everything I know by copying Needsize's routine and reading his posts. I'm actually almost doing Needsize's old routine now... except for legs.

Cool, how's it working for you?
 
Needsize, much thanks for the details on the five X five. I never really was sure about the specifics of it.
But correct me if im wrong, isnt the 8-12 rep range supposed to be ideal for putting on mass?
Do reps that low yeild better results?
 
ThePolishHammer said:
Needsize, much thanks for the details on the five X five. I never really was sure about the specifics of it.
But correct me if im wrong, isnt the 8-12 rep range supposed to be ideal for putting on mass?
Do reps that low yeild better results?

Thats the thing about this version of the 5x5 program, I believe the combination of low and higher reps works to build way more mass than the highe reps alone. Part of the equation is the strength gains on the program, if you follow the same program every week but can add a small percentage of weight to the bar every workout, the constant progression will force your body to grow to adapt
 
NS, you know I agree with you. I like WSB for the same reasons. The more I read about 5x5, the more similarities I'm seeing between the two. I like that WSB starts with low rep compound moves, then backs it up with hypertrophy range accessory moves...and of course speed work, too. I very much agree that recruiting both fast twitch and slow twitch fibers is advantageous. WSB uses 2 compound moves and then 1 set per accesory muscle involved in that compound move.

It's like WSB is a PLers tool to a great physique, and 5x5 is an old school body builder's tool to great strength.
 
spatts said:
NS, you know I agree with you. I like WSB for the same reasons. The more I read about 5x5, the more similarities I'm seeing between the two. I like that WSB starts with low rep compound moves, then backs it up with hypertrophy range accessory moves...and of course speed work, too. I very much agree that recruiting both fast twitch and slow twitch fibers is advantageous. WSB uses 2 compound moves and then 1 set per accesory muscle involved in that compound move.

It's like WSB is a PLers tool to a great physique, and 5x5 is an old school body builder's tool to great strength.

You know, I've never actually read up on the WSB routines at all, its probably time I looked into it
 
I think the biggest problem I had with 5x5, was the lack of variation in exercises. Sure there are basic compound movements that work, but I believe for most body parts there are more then one compound movement that can be effective. . I just got very burned out on doing the same compound lift week after week, even though the poundages were increased in small increments. WSB changes there ME lift every two weeks or so, and sometimes weekly. I think that is effective. Im going to try the 5x5 again, but try to bring other compound movements into it so I dont stall out or get stale too fast. Any thoughts?
 
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