3rd Upcoming Cycle Very Soon. Real Quick Critique Plz?!

[khemix]

Alright. This is my third cycle as stated.

First cycle was this:
TTokkyo Test Cyp 500mg/wk, 1-10 wks
TT dbol, 20mg/ed, 1-2.5wks

Second was as follows:
Proline Test enth 600mg, 1-10wks
Proline Tren, 75mg/eod, 1-8wks
This was when proline was some top notch shit.

Here is my proposed 3rd cycle:
Test Enth, 750mg/wk, 1-10wks
Tren, 100mg/eod, 1-6wks

I'm not going with orals because I'm on accutane, prescribed by the doc and get monthly bloodwork done. I can't have my liver values going up much so I'll be taking alot of Liv Detox and Milk Thistle. The doses aren't increased much and I'm looking to put on about 20lbs, give or take a few. Heres my stats:

6'3"
Roughly 180lbs. Just got over a serious sickness along with mild depression. All is good now.
5-6%bf
Training seriously for 6+ yrs.
2 previous cycles. About 8 months since the last cycle.

So would you guys recommend changing anything? I'm not worried in the least about my bodyfat. Ill be consuming upwards of 5k cals and am purely bulking. My BF never changes either. Can't run orals due to accutane. Thanks guys and K+ to all who help!

Chris

 

[jbradley2094]

At your weight I don't think you need 750mg of test, I would go back to 500mg of test and stay with 100mg of tren EOD. Not the best mass cycle, but one of my favorite cycles. Tren gives me awesome strength gains, but the gains are similiar to Primo for me.

If you are looking for more mass you should try NPP instead of Tren. Syrus has a great product with Prop and NPP mixed.

Not to plan you a different cycle, but I am simply guessing that at 6'3 180lbs you are looking to bulk, and not cut. I would go a different route than test/tren for that goal. But that is just me.

 

[khemix]

Good informative response. I was thinking my next cycle I'm going to run with NPP and prop. As for this cycle, you really think I should drop the test? What I think I should do it run the test at 500mg/wk for 4 weeks or so and see how I react. If I'm not satisfied, up the gear a little bit. What do you think? K for the good response and thanks!

Chris

 

[jbradley2094]

Well I look at it this way, think of the guys who have run 10-15 cycles in their life. They did not run 500mg, 600, 750, a gram, 1.25 grams, 1.5 (You get the picture.)

Granted those guys do take more gear than the average Joe, but I am a firm believer in 500mg of test per week is sufficient for your average mortal.

What has you set on tren this time? Not trying to talk you out of it, as I love tren, if you can handle mood swings like an axe murderer and ED problems. For me the sides will keep me away, even though I loved the results.

I think tren is the wrong gear for your goal. I would consider EQ if not Prop/NPP. If you do EQ or Deca you could limit your injections to twice weekly.

 

[khemix]

Well the pure reasoning on tren is my past experience with it. The cycle I ran with tren was beautiful. I gained 20lbs of muscle and dropped 2-3% bf. Strength went way up. The only sides I noted were night sweats and those didn't bother me a bit. That was the ONLY side I got from that cycle. A little melatonin before bed and I was good to go. As far as eod injections, I can handle them. Eod injections with test also means steadier blood levels and thats a plus as well. Again thanks for the awesome response and taking the time to really think about it!

Chris

 

[jbradley2094]

Wow!

I did not notice that you took tren before. Yeah, If you had those results than I would say Run with it! No sense in arguing with what works!

Good luck with your cycle! I think you will be pleased with the results of 500mg week of test.

Make sure you have a good PCT routine, and have you PCT start time planned properly!

 

[khemix]

Thanks for the great responses! Yea, I had a great prior experience with test and tren and wanna give it another go. Vascularity was unreal as well! I think I will give the 500mg/wk for the first couple weeks a go and let you guys know what i think!
Thanks!

Chris

 

[Phaded]

how were the sides with tren you are pretty ripped my friend..

 

[khemix]

how were the sides with tren you are pretty ripped my friend..

Thanks for the comment. The sides were VERY tolerable. I ran 75mg/eod for aprx 8 weeks. I had night sweats that would wake me up every now and then at night. It was kind of a pain in the ass, only because I had to wash my sheets so much! Sometimes I'd just sleep with a beachtowel on my bed lol. When I took 2-3mg's of melatonin I was good to sleep all night. If I remember right the cycle put 40lbs on my bench. I went from 8% bodyfat to around 5 or 6 which was nice. Diet wasn't in check at all. I ate anything and everything. I had no bloat at all and gained nearly 20lbs.

Sides were very minimal and the pros far outweighed the cons. Thats why I'm choosing to run this cycle again! If you got any other questions lemme know.

Chris

 

[khemix]

Up to the top you go!

Chris