330 lb Dude Suggested to Me to Never Get Off Test...

[magman1]

you'll get better results on cycles the more time between! go for it only if you wana do that the rest of ur life

 

[manny78]

If you need 250mg of test between cycles in order to keep your sex drive, then you have a big problem to solve. A good endocrinologist would be the solution...

 

[galaxy]

I dis-agree...A lot of bro's who compete do very well on low doses and do not stay on year round ie...Quadsweep from here does VERY well off low doses and if you have seen his pics you will see what I am talking about. Yes, it is true that some people who are on 24/7 use massvie amounts through out but on the other hand others do not stay on at all. IMO 250mg/Week of Test is more then enough to keep your body in an anabolic state between heavy cycles.

M18

Maybe if Quad had stayed on year round he would have done better at his qualifying show, but even if he squeezed out the win , how would he have done at the Nationals? Lets face it, its a drug game.....Quad did look AWESOME! But, at this stage he cant afford to come off. Once he gets to the pro level, then maybe he can. Again, we all need to ask ourselves if its worth it?

 

[T2O]

What in the hell is everyones deal with HRT lately. HRT is cycling no matter how you look at it. I am speaking of test injections. Hell even the patch if the doses are high enough. Any unatty test added to the body that is higher than what your bod will normally produce will shut you down. You like your nuts? If you don't mind staying on the rest of your life go for it. Hit some hcg from time to time if you care about having anything down there at all. Some one set me straight here. I've seen some bros that have been on here for awhile talking sh*t about this.? What gives? I hope I am the one thats totally wrong because there is a lot of strange info floating around

 

[Stillgoing]

What in the hell is everyones deal with HRT lately. HRT is cycling no matter how you look at it. I am speaking of test injections. Hell even the patch if the doses are high enough. Any unatty test added to the body that is higher than what your bod will normally produce will shut you down. You like your nuts? If you don't mind staying on the rest of your life go for it. Hit some hcg from time to time if you care about having anything down there at all. Some one set me straight here. I've seen some bros that have been on here for awhile talking sh*t about this.? What gives? I hope I am the one thats totally wrong because there is a lot of strange info floating around

Bro - your right to make sure everyone understands HRT means on for life. However - there are a lot of legitimate reasons to go on HRT, not just because your "a juice head whos addicted to gear and can't bear the thought of going off". And, cycling to me means creating a test level above that which can be achieved naturally by a well functioning male. HRT to me means replacing test that you used to have but no longer have due to; age, vasectomy, disease, etc. No big deal, just thought I'd share my thoughts on that....

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

He said just do like 250mg of test a week between cycles

that is a cycle.

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

HRT to me means replacing test that you used to have but no longer have due to; age, vasectomy, disease, etc.

just curious, how does a vasectomy affect test levels? thanks...

 

[Vectork39]

hey my friend's dad is on HRT and hes allowed to take his shots at home, self administered. Thats not even the best part, hes a was a crazy wrestler back in the day and now he trains his son like mad too...but the catch is that he saves a few vials of test and gets refills (so he doesnt skip a day)....and after about 2 years of saving up hes putting his son on a 8-10 week cycle. And the doctors have no idea.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

What in the hell is everyones deal with HRT lately. HRT is cycling no matter how you look at it. I am speaking of test injections. Hell even the patch if the doses are high enough. Any unatty test added to the body that is higher than what your bod will normally produce will shut you down. You like your nuts? If you don't mind staying on the rest of your life go for it. Hit some hcg from time to time if you care about having anything down there at all. Some one set me straight here. I've seen some bros that have been on here for awhile talking sh*t about this.? What gives? I hope I am the one thats totally wrong because there is a lot of strange info floating around

It's not all or nothing. If you are on HRT, which is typically 200 mg/wk or under (I'm on 200 mg/wk), you will be supressed, not completely shut down. In other words your system will still be working, but not up to full par.

Why do this? Because the system wasn't functioning up to full par in the first place. When you have your blood levels checked and come back low on testosterone, you have two choices, either live with it (and all of the negatives associated with it in terms of physical composition, health and mental acuity), or go on HRT.

It's not a choice I'd make if my test levels were normal. But since they're not, I choose HRT. And since I'm committed to HRT, I might as well come in on the high end of normal -- heh, heh.

As far as nuts, they don't go away. You're not completely shut down because the dose is low enough to only supress, not inhibit completely.

 

[Stillgoing]

It's not all or nothing. If you are on HRT, which is typically 200 mg/wk or under (I'm on 200 mg/wk), you will be supressed, not completely shut down. In other words your system will still be working, but not up to full par.

Why do this? Because the system wasn't functioning up to full par in the first place. When you have your blood levels checked and come back low on testosterone, you have two choices, either live with it (and all of the negatives associated with it in terms of physical composition, health and mental acuity), or go on HRT.

It's not a choice I'd make if my test levels were normal. But since they're not, I choose HRT. And since I'm committed to HRT, I might as well come in on the high end of normal -- heh, heh.

As far as nuts, they don't go away. You're not completely shut down because the dose is low enough to only supress, not inhibit completely.

I'm there with ya' bro. Good post.