2nd Cycle Advice Needed

[socalenduro]

Been lurking the forums now for a few weeks & wanted to take a second to introduce myself. I'm a navy vet 98-04' & married to a personal trainer/massage therapist/swim instructor. My workouts are 5 days wk with reps +10/set & burning 500 cals/workout.

32yrs/5'11/180lbs/12%bf/training for 15yrs

Goals: Gain 10 lbs lean muscle & loose 2% bf on my second cycle. With a focus of minimum water retention while on cycle. I'm looking to gain strength & endurance for dirt bike endurance riding.

My 1st cycle was in 2003:
500mgs of Test E/wk
40mgs of dbol/wk
PCT: Liqidex & Colomid (If I remember correctly)
23yrs old, 170 to 198lbs kept above 10 lbs after the water weight dropped. (I've read a lot on how good diet & quality gear will minimize the water retention on the forums here.)

2nd Cycle Considering:
weeks 1-5 Tbol 70mg/ED
weeks 1-10 Test Prop 150mg/EOD
Weeks 10-16 Anavar 40mg/ED
weeks 3-16 N2Guard 7 Caps/ED
Weeks 9-14 Clomid 50mg/ED
Weeks 9-13 HCGenerate 5 caps/ED

I currently have HCGenerate(x2), N2Guard(1,Order 2 more?), & Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo(1) ordered. (Thanks Radar for the discount!)

I've gotten a lot of my cycle 2 ideas from reading through the forums & plan to run a log to track my progress. I look at it as a way to give back for all the research I've done on here.

Suggestions?

 

[goaltender28]

what kind of mass are you trying to achieve???? Bulk or Lean?

 

[socalenduro]

My goals are to gain lean muscle.

 

[hurricane]

i wouldnt use 2 orals ..even though they are more of the milder kind.

i also would run the var after u are done with the test.. not sure what was the thought behind that

i would go either

test/var
or
test/tbol

 

[RADAR]

Yeah! you don't need Dbol in that cycle ,just finish it with Anavar!

 

[Judo Tom]

just go w/ test var

or test / tbol

no need to try to put too many things together..
Keep It Simple

 

[goaltender28]

Id use the var/prop combo, and since your planning on running what looks like a lengthy cycle keep the tbol on hand for possible system shock. At weeks 8+ SOME people start to see a plateau and need that bump to continue gains.

 

[Ripp42]

Been lurking the forums now for a few weeks & wanted to take a second to introduce myself. I'm a navy vet 98-04' & married to a personal trainer/massage therapist/swim instructor. My workouts are 5 days wk with reps +10/set & burning 500 cals/workout.

32yrs/5'11/180lbs/12%bf/training for 15yrs

Goals: Gain 10 lbs lean muscle & loose 2% bf on my second cycle. With a focus of minimum water retention while on cycle. I'm looking to gain strength & endurance for dirt bike endurance riding.

My 1st cycle was in 2003:
500mgs of Test E/wk
40mgs of dbol/wk
PCT: Liqidex & Colomid (If I remember correctly)
23yrs old, 170 to 198lbs kept above 10 lbs after the water weight dropped. (I've read a lot on how good diet & quality gear will minimize the water retention on the forums here.)

2nd Cycle Considering:
weeks 1-5 Tbol 70mg/ED
weeks 1-10 Test Prop 150mg/EOD
Weeks 10-16 Anavar 40mg/ED
weeks 3-16 N2Guard 7 Caps/ED
Weeks 9-14 Clomid 50mg/ED
Weeks 9-13 HCGenerate 5 caps/ED

I currently have HCGenerate(x2), N2Guard(1,Order 2 more?), & Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo(1) ordered. (Thanks Radar for the discount!)

I've gotten a lot of my cycle 2 ideas from reading through the forums & plan to run a log to track my progress. I look at it as a way to give back for all the research I've done on here.

Suggestions?

Id drop clomid. Run lower test dosage like 250 ah week

Var at 40-60mg ah end of cyc for 8 weeks. Just how id do it. Throw some forma in there. Buy one more n2guard

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Id use the var/prop combo, and since your planning on running what looks like a lengthy cycle keep the tbol on hand for possible system shock. At weeks 8+ SOME people start to see a plateau and need that bump to continue gains.

After u plateau on AAS, stop taking it... It means your,receptors are use to the substances and unless ur dumping a megadose ur not gonna see any more gains, so dont hurt ur body, stop aas and start pct.. Dont add something else. Thats a bad idea... U should never plataeu on gear... This is why we recommend short cycles so your off before ur body can plataeu.. Lol, another newb mistake. AAS is used when there is a plataeu in natural strength gains and when u have reached ur body natural potential n shouldnt cause plataeu.

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[goaltender28]

lol not a newb mistake johnny. Ive done my research and theres alot of sites/people that agree, while on lengthy cycles if your mid way through and start to plateau a shock may be needed. While not suggested it is an option. And look how I said SOME. Maybe realizing I merely suggested as opposed to told would help you when replying