27 needs HRT?

[artificialaspirations]

Doc left results on message yesterday. LH, FSH, Prolactin, dht and free test all in normal range. I'll try to get actual numbers tomorrow. Test came back 562 and sperm count was 26 million. That's low but hell of a lot better than 0. I think I'm still recovering and those numbers will be back up to 100 million in a few months.

I'm gonna stay off the hrt for now but still might use the test every once in a while. I'm gonna ask the doc for hcg to help my sperm counts since we know it will boost them.

The only difference in my lifestyle that I can attribute to the increased test production is working straight days. I was on a rotating shift schedule before and wasn't getting good sleep having to work day/night/day/night.

I don't feel as good as I did on the test, but am happy with the news.

 

[fast_lane]

Propecia obliterates DHT, which is an important function for sex drive and erectile function. The less DHT you have in your body means there is less for it to bind to your SHBG, therefore SHBG increases and Bio-Available test goes down. Might want to get your DHT levels tested as well. Of course you will feel better on 200mg/week. However it will only mask your true issues (if there are indeed any) and make your possible natural recovery all that more difficult. I have tried HRT for about 6 months in the past an allthough I felt good while on in the initial stages, eventually the cons outweighed the pros and I came off.

What were the cons?I am starting on TRT...And also what are the solutions in the case DHT is the problem?

 

[artificialaspirations]

recent work. test 444 sperm 40 million plus. feel ok, but better on hrt

 

[kingplaya4]

How were you able to get off TRT? Please helps us bros out with the same problem and let us know the dosages of HCG and Clomid you used and for how long. Thanks.

 

[artificialaspirations]

yes i'm off. used 25 mg clomid for 4 weeks. no hcg

 

[kingplaya4]

Wow, didn't know clomid alone could bring things back that well. Thanks for the answer, and please keep us updated. Have you considered HCG for possibly even better results?

 

[artificialaspirations]

well to update this. 29 years old now and test is back in the toilet. total was 354, free 91. estradiol 8. I am back on hrt 150/week. I will probably back down to 100-120 as I felt fine on those dosages and had less nipple sensitivity. I feel better already, well-being, mood, etc. Sperm production is still ok and this time my doc has a plan of cycling hcg along with the test to maintain my fertility.

I feel bad about having to do the hrt but feel much more human and confident doing so...

 

[steroids4me]

You cant trick your body forever, eventually you will just suppress your body until you reach the point where erections are difficult and for a man your age its the only important thing in life, well aside from my children at least. It may take a wile but you will get there. I know many people who are there now.... Ive been there myself, however, I was not under the supervision of a doctor. With that said some of them where and one of them is a doctor, they just keep injecting higher doses to try and fix the problem when they are just creating a bigger problem.

For me the quality of life is better off. I am not on viagra full time anymore and just use it as a recreational drug for when I want to go forever. My strength is not what it use to be but my size is very good. My natural test level is low but I feel so much better in the end.

I think your test level back in your May post was good and good enough to have kids if that's still your plan. I have two kids and was never able to get my wife pregnant while on, only while off. Personally I don't think you need trt. I think healthy eating and good sleep habits are a better alternative for a better sense of well being, increase in muscle mass and strength.

By the way, you will never feel as good as you do while on trt compared to being off but give it time and you will feel better off than you were while on. I know thats not what you want to hear but thats just my 2 cents. I sure do miss the feeling of test running through my veins though.

 

[Malinois]

Sounds to me like your balancing back and forth between sperm count (for kids) and higher test levels (feeling good while on TRT).

I personally would want to feel good UNTIL I got ready for the kids. When you get ready to start trying for kids, go off and get your sperm count up. Once shes pregnant get your levels back in place while you have 8 months of the baby in the oven. Once the kid/s come your going to want to be feeling top notch because newborns can be alot of work. Sleep beomes an issue and if your rock bottom on you levels your in for a miserable time. Trust me I have 4 kids and I wished I would have had my hormones in check then.

I dont really know what your status is married or single etc, or how soon your planning on kids, but you obviously seem to have a grasp on your T levels and your sperm counts. It seems through trial and error you have learned how to control both.

It seems with some careful planning you could feel good on TRT and then go off until you do what you need to do when its time for the kiddos.

When ur done having kids then go back on or whatever you chose.

Does that make sense?

 

[artificialaspirations]

yes it does and that is the plan. my wife won't go off birth control for another year.

as for steroids4me, my quality of life is miserable while off. Enough so that i'm willing to take the side effects just to feel normal. I've never used viagra and didn't have a problem with erections when my test level came back at 2. that's right two. the desire just wasn't there and i still attribute this loss of sex drive to my run with propecia. btw, my sleep and diet are impeccable. I'm not new to the weightlifting game. I take care of myself and am in excellent health sans the low test. i've been off for 6 months and don't feel any better.

The ED scares me though...