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artificialaspirations
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Had mri today. Will get results in 3-5 days.
27 needs HRT?
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artificialaspirations
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Finally saw the endo today and the MRI came out fine. He prescribed me Test replacement because of a sluggish pituitary. He wrote me a script for 100mgs every 2 weeks. Gave me one refill of 10 ml of 200mg/ml testosterone enanthate. I was excited to get the script but very disappointed in the dosage.
In two months he wants me to go back to check test total and free.
The dosage seems like a waste of time and the infrequency of injections worries me. He wants to put me on TRT and then stop it to see if I go back to normal.
Any of this sound logical?
In two months he wants me to go back to check test total and free.
The dosage seems like a waste of time and the infrequency of injections worries me. He wants to put me on TRT and then stop it to see if I go back to normal.
Any of this sound logical?
artificialaspirations
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My thoughts exactly. I feel the doc that referred me had a better grasp on this stuff than the endo. I guess I will try it for 2 months get the bloodwork and hope they at least double the dose.
Could they be trying to supplement my natty test by giving me a dosage so low it wouldn't shut me down completely?
Could they be trying to supplement my natty test by giving me a dosage so low it wouldn't shut me down completely?
christopher36
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From what I am learning, every two weeks is not good. I was prescribed Test Eth also, but at 100mg per week and I have to inject twice per week. 50mg on Mon and 50mg on Thurs. Also HCG 2 days before my shots to prevent shrinkage. No AI yet until next blood test.
njmuscleguy
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artificialaspirations said:
It's not uncommon to see every 2 week injections, but the dosage is typically around 200mg... 50mg/wk is pretty low...
I started out at 100mg/wk...then got bloodwork and my doctor noticed that my liver enzymes and lipids were raised...he got concerned and dropped me down to 50mg/wk on the cypionate...especially given that my test levels were around the 900's with the 100mg/wk dosage...
I've been pleading with him since to put me back on 100mg/wk...he wants to see one more round of bloodwork.... you might have to bite the bullet for a while on 50mg and just tell him how awful you feel.... OR, go see another doctor...
don't assume that an endo is all-knowing... and don't assume that a regular GP won't know enough...just takes finding the right one
artificialaspirations
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What's your test readings on 50 mg a week?
njmuscleguy
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in the 500 range... though I have to say, it *feels* as if I were in the 300 range
artificialaspirations
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I was really disappointed when I saw the dosage and frequency. Aslo when he said we will try coming off in a year I was really questioning this guys competency. He did say we will try to get me to the upper/middle range. I do have some info from Mr. Black about an H C G/H M G regiment that may work for me before I start the TRT. I am gonna email the docs the studies and see if they are willing to treat me that way. Plus I still have the test script in the mail. I don't want to be reliant on exogeneous testosterone for the rest of my life, but don't want to feel bad either.
This is very frustrating because everything takes so long to get rolling and summer time is only 4 months away. I am hoping once I get my hormones back that my sex drive and lbm will increase and I will not lose as much muscle when dieting. I've also heard that low estrogen can affect joint function and strength. My estradiol is 15.
NJ, how much were your liver values affected at 100 mg/wk? Mine have been elevated since I was nineteen and always attributed it to have too good of a time in college. I just started taking milk thistle and alpha lipoic acid on a regular basis, eventhough I hardly ever drink and do not use juice. Hopefully they will come down a biut next year.
Also, do the docs ever prescribe test p.rop for trt? Is bloat an issue at 100 or 150mgs/week?
This is very frustrating because everything takes so long to get rolling and summer time is only 4 months away. I am hoping once I get my hormones back that my sex drive and lbm will increase and I will not lose as much muscle when dieting. I've also heard that low estrogen can affect joint function and strength. My estradiol is 15.
NJ, how much were your liver values affected at 100 mg/wk? Mine have been elevated since I was nineteen and always attributed it to have too good of a time in college. I just started taking milk thistle and alpha lipoic acid on a regular basis, eventhough I hardly ever drink and do not use juice. Hopefully they will come down a biut next year.
Also, do the docs ever prescribe test p.rop for trt? Is bloat an issue at 100 or 150mgs/week?
njmuscleguy
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Well, at this point you would either use H C G as treatment to try and jumpstart your H P T A (along with clo-mid, possibly).... -OR- use it as part of your HRT to maintain tesicular volume and natty test production (for future, in case you want to have kids).
Otherwise, don't add too many variables that will affect your bloodwork and give misleading results.
My liver values and lipids have been slightly elevated since being on HRT... everyone responds different in that aspect. Ever since, I've been taking Liv52.
Docs usually don't prescribe pr-op... and if you're anything like me, you'll bloat with pr-op regardless... it's not any different than enth or cyp for me. Submit those papers to your doctor and see what he says. After a few weeks of being on at 50mg/wk, tell him you still feel like crap.... ask him to put you on 100mg/wk and see how that goes. If he doesn't reason with you, then find another doctor. Sorry to say, but it's not a quick process....it takes time getting into a "groove" that is satisfactory to everyone.
Otherwise, don't add too many variables that will affect your bloodwork and give misleading results.
My liver values and lipids have been slightly elevated since being on HRT... everyone responds different in that aspect. Ever since, I've been taking Liv52.
Docs usually don't prescribe pr-op... and if you're anything like me, you'll bloat with pr-op regardless... it's not any different than enth or cyp for me. Submit those papers to your doctor and see what he says. After a few weeks of being on at 50mg/wk, tell him you still feel like crap.... ask him to put you on 100mg/wk and see how that goes. If he doesn't reason with you, then find another doctor. Sorry to say, but it's not a quick process....it takes time getting into a "groove" that is satisfactory to everyone.
