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26 week cycle recovery
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Rather easy...i would recomend 2 cycle's within a cycle.......10-12 weeeks test c, d bol, eq and then the back end ...test prop,winny,eq and or tren to solidfy your gains....I've done this several times......and clomid at the end......your anti's as needed during the cycle.....and then a moderately long lay-off...3-4 months
And if needed proviron would be my preference
And if needed proviron would be my preference
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forgive me if im worng but werent you doing dbol only cycles? what made the change of heart to such a extreme cycle? If this is your first injectable cycle i would keep it to 10-14 weeks so you can recover and get an idea of how things work....a 6 month cycle is a great way to crash hard
what dosages you thinking about?
lilj888
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well i just got off my dbol test and winny cycle been off for a week, im getting my new stuff in soon and alot of my advanced steroid using friends said to jump back on.
i ran this
1-7 test e/250mg week (bottle was underfilled)
1-6 winny 50mg/day (didnt get any sides)
7-12 dbol 25mg/day (lost 10lbs while on them)
now i want to do
1-14 test e 400mg
1-12 eq 400mg
i ran this
1-7 test e/250mg week (bottle was underfilled)
1-6 winny 50mg/day (didnt get any sides)
7-12 dbol 25mg/day (lost 10lbs while on them)
now i want to do
1-14 test e 400mg
1-12 eq 400mg
lilj888
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id get hcg clomid nolva and arimidex or aromasion for on cycle and off
why do you want to extend the cycle for 26 weeks?
dont jump back on!
let me guess your advanced steroid useing friends sold you the steroids and are getting you more now right?
sorry i im wrong...but with the low filled bottle of test you have i assume your getting it of the street orm people you know
take time off...recover then go back on...you just started dont scrw yourself up already..plenty of time to juice...baby steps
sorry i im wrong...but with the low filled bottle of test you have i assume your getting it of the street orm people you know
take time off...recover then go back on...you just started dont scrw yourself up already..plenty of time to juice...baby steps
lilj888
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no actually i suppy my own self, and i used a different guy this time. My advanced steroid using friends dont get me anything but they said to jump on and ill be fine just do proper pct.
what im really worried about is infertilty issues
lilj888
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kas1
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Look fertility should not be an issue at least in my experience, but don't jump so far out there so early on. you will realize much better long term gains if you let yourself recover. Its just a few months and then you will learn a lot more about what your body needs to continue to grow. Take it easy lasting gains are a slow process. I have learned more in my off times than ever when on.
fertilitiy isnt the issue...low test is the issue...you do long cycle you crash cant recover you will lose all the gains you recieved...
do what you want im sure you can recover but your only setting yourself up for more bad cycling decisions...next cycle maybe 35 weeks? or just stay on forever?
your gonna do what you want obviously but its your first why not recover and get your stuf and restart 10 weeks from now...or month ater pct get blood levels checked if test is high go again
OMG...I honestly thought you had a bunch of cycles under your belt......To even suggest such a thing or think of doing a long cycle like that is ridiculous......
I've done as much as 30 weeks but I've had 15-18 yrs under my belt and I became a very hard gainer from all the previous cycles...that was the only reason for such long cycles....
Honestly you'd probably gain from very short cycles of 6-8 weeks with hcg so there's relatively no suppresion....with 2-3 weeks in between completely off
I've done as much as 30 weeks but I've had 15-18 yrs under my belt and I became a very hard gainer from all the previous cycles...that was the only reason for such long cycles....
Honestly you'd probably gain from very short cycles of 6-8 weeks with hcg so there's relatively no suppresion....with 2-3 weeks in between completely off
lookinfit75
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kasl, hayez, oskie, and all the other bros are making good points. Also if I read corectly, you went from winny to dbols nonstop for 12 weeks total? Both are pretty harsh man so maybe one or the other right?
lilj888
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this would be my 3rd cycle
lilj888
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im trying to compete
Proviron will not increase fertility.
sensational
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But its been proven to increase spermatogenesis...?
702daswoll1
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Get some bloodwork and see where your liver values are first of all. Second of all telling this guy that recovering from a 26 weeker is "rather easy" no matter how many cycles he has done is B-A-D advice. Chances are strong that your natty T will not recover from a 26 weeker (6 momths)... Your fertility should be fine however like I said your natural test may never be the same. Unless you want to be on permanent HRT you need to take some time off and do a proper PCT protocol.
702daswoll1
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Nelson, he also said that recovering from a 6 month cycle is "rather easy".
the elite addict
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now you are trying to compete? a few weeks ago you said you are happy w a lil more abs. Go figure use juice to get abs. bro, you are skinny as a rail and you ran 6 weeks of dbol only to loose more weight?? 10 pounds? Im sorry bro but you are all over the place. You are a perfect example of a person who should not use steriods. you give people like me, a bad name.
if thats the case, have at it but dont worry about fertility then. there are things you sacrifice in life to reach goals. will using steroids heavily effect your ability to have children? its a strong possibility but not a guarantee. you have to decide what is more important and be prepared for the worst.
I would suggest to sit down and adress your needs a little bit more and come up with a better game plan.....With everything said here on this thread...especially loosing weight on d-bol tells me right off your in-experienced in gear use...propbably listening to guys in the gym..
I'm thinking if it's your 3rd cycle...the old test,deca and dbol would be more than enough for a 3rd cycle and absolutely no more than 10-12 weeks and 10-12 weeks off...
I'll also add something no one had addressed....and it's the most important part of any training....YOUR DIET...Your loosing weight on d-bol tells me your diet is not even close..I've been around for a very long time and I can't remember ever hearing or reading someone loosing weight on d-bol....unless there fake
DIET.....TRAINING...REST....DIET....I CAN'T EMPHASIS THE IMPORTANCE OF DIET...all the drugs in world cannot overcome a bad diet
maybe you should give the guys here an example of your diet....
I'm thinking if it's your 3rd cycle...the old test,deca and dbol would be more than enough for a 3rd cycle and absolutely no more than 10-12 weeks and 10-12 weeks off...
I'll also add something no one had addressed....and it's the most important part of any training....YOUR DIET...Your loosing weight on d-bol tells me your diet is not even close..I've been around for a very long time and I can't remember ever hearing or reading someone loosing weight on d-bol....unless there fake
DIET.....TRAINING...REST....DIET....I CAN'T EMPHASIS THE IMPORTANCE OF DIET...all the drugs in world cannot overcome a bad diet
maybe you should give the guys here an example of your diet....
lilj888
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u have no idea what the hell your talking about, just stfu already. i look at ur pics and im bigger then u what the hell does that make u? ur the one who hands out terrible advice on this forum acting like ur advice is the best.
lilj888
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i really think i lost weight on the dbols is because they were fake. Theres no way u can loose weight on dbols just doesnt make sense. i gained 23lbs on my real dbol cycle, and then -10 on my next? doing everything 2x better this cycle then the last too, seems a bit odd. I feel like i lost weight because my dbols were fake and i didnt take proper pct for the test, that ran out on week 7 suppose to be 10 weeks, so the dbols screwed me over
the elite addict
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you are bigger than me? LOL! I dont think so. Im 5'11, 225 pounds about 12% b.f.
people are just trying to help...everyone loves to cycle but your really getting ahead of yourself...if you want to be at this for a while and be healthy you need to do things 1 at a time... a 6 month first cycle isnt a great idea...take it as you will but ur only asking for trouble.. and yes your dbol only cycle you did i would not count as a real cycle...
comes down to it...if your not gonna listen to anyone here then just jump on and do as you please..good luck
cobracock1979
Member
LOL,
Lilj, I know people who have done similar cycles and been fine. However, that doesnt mean you will be. Im sure some people in this thread have done somethin similar even if they dont admit it!
Damage to HPTA is a VERY real risk if your gonna do this - is it gonna be worth it, rather tha waiting a coupla months?
personally I would say come off, recover, get bloods and then hop back on. Sayin that, I stayed on between my first 2 cycles on 300mg test cos I couldnt bear to come off! 6 months in total
Like some other guys say here, prepare yourself mentally for a marathon rather than a sprint. I think its radar who says (correctly I think) faster gains + faster losses.
by the way, I upped my DBol to 50mg and im f*ckin lovin ut!!!!
Lilj, I know people who have done similar cycles and been fine. However, that doesnt mean you will be. Im sure some people in this thread have done somethin similar even if they dont admit it!
Damage to HPTA is a VERY real risk if your gonna do this - is it gonna be worth it, rather tha waiting a coupla months?
personally I would say come off, recover, get bloods and then hop back on. Sayin that, I stayed on between my first 2 cycles on 300mg test cos I couldnt bear to come off! 6 months in total
Like some other guys say here, prepare yourself mentally for a marathon rather than a sprint. I think its radar who says (correctly I think) faster gains + faster losses.
by the way, I upped my DBol to 50mg and im f*ckin lovin ut!!!!
i cant remember who it was someone had said..dexter jackson comes to mind but i could be wrong
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1295/39ah.jpg
ya i was right...huge mofo there
ya i was right...huge mofo there
this is going to sound bad but i am just trying to help you out.
your posts are all over the place. you have many threads that show you are still in the early stages of body building. sometimes you want to grow sometimes you want to cut. you are a mess. you need to slow down and learn how to grow and maintain size first. but you are skipping right past that and using steroids like a crack head. you are going to fuck yourself all up before you ever reach any amount of size. you need to end the cycle run pct get your test production back to normal. run 6wk cycles of all the legal shit needto can tell you about. and learn how to eat, train, and recover. try eating 350g of protein mostly from beef 700g complex carbs 40g fat 40g fiber 1+gal water every day and see how you grow and keep your muscles. and after a few months of that add more food and change to a whole new routine.
kidd73
Active member
700 carbs??? holy shit id be the marshmallow man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 lmfao
i dont think that will happen to him. he is skinny. how many carbs do you eat in a day? whats your weight?
the elite addict
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+1000
02gixxersix
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I hope you got a new source for this most recent order. Underfilled test AND dbol that make you lose weight.
the elite addict
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if your loosing weight on test and dbol something is wrong. Like diet and training. He needs to learn to do w/o steroids and learn how to train and diet first
the elite addict
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bump for lilj888
rediculus
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Keep it real and listen to the guys that are keeping it respectful.
Compete?
Arnold if I remember correctly was on primarily orals? If I am wrong shoot me blah....his training was straight and his genetics were good. If you don't have genetics...You will be a good buff or "built" guy. You won't be Mr O without Genetics..Well I would see a really hard time taking any of the state or national level competitions without good genetics. Maybe not one in a million but.. Solid easy gainer genetics for sure.
I went from 235 to 252 in 6 months. In that time I lost estimated 2 percent body fat. Increased my max squat by 50plus lbs and deadlift by 75lbs. Chicken and tuna in a can. Some creatine and heavy ass weights.
Everybody wants to be a body builder..nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights.
ok I'm ignorant. next?
Compete?
Arnold if I remember correctly was on primarily orals? If I am wrong shoot me blah....his training was straight and his genetics were good. If you don't have genetics...You will be a good buff or "built" guy. You won't be Mr O without Genetics..Well I would see a really hard time taking any of the state or national level competitions without good genetics. Maybe not one in a million but.. Solid easy gainer genetics for sure.
I went from 235 to 252 in 6 months. In that time I lost estimated 2 percent body fat. Increased my max squat by 50plus lbs and deadlift by 75lbs. Chicken and tuna in a can. Some creatine and heavy ass weights.
Everybody wants to be a body builder..nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights.
ok I'm ignorant. next?
cobracock1979
Member
???Are you 252 in this pic you posted?
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g198/blueeyedpoet_2006/1103082250.jpg
rediculus
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252?
252 lbs? yes that's still pre cycle (for those that call cyclobolan and Icon a cycle) that just showed up at my doorstep today with AI life support.
PS I am not a short guy so some of my weight is in my height the rest is in the luuuv handles!!! And I am curious arnold was primarily Orals right? D bol and A bombs?
252 lbs? yes that's still pre cycle (for those that call cyclobolan and Icon a cycle) that just showed up at my doorstep today with AI life support.
PS I am not a short guy so some of my weight is in my height the rest is in the luuuv handles!!! And I am curious arnold was primarily Orals right? D bol and A bombs?
the elite addict
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HAHAHHAHA more like 152
rediculus
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I'm 6 foot 3 twinkle toes
252 lbs my chest is 52 inches around waist is 38 taped and fair not great but improving and thighs are 28 inches left 27.5 inches right...
Bring it to OC and tape me if you want. I just recommend the E tuff attitude stays at your doorstep and not mine.yes there are people that are natty that are much larger than you as shocking as that might seem.
...hes solid...a good plan but i would just switch all compounds every 8 weeks and go high and low and repeat.
cobracock1979
Member
No not promarily otrals,
I seen a couple of his (aleged) cycles. He apparently likes test. decca/ test as a bulker. Others indicate he mainly used promo and dbol
rediculus
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PS Just started Cyclobolan last night...probably shouldn't have...I don't know how quick I should feel an effect. Possibly placebo...but the Icon at 2 pills and 1 tablet of Cyclobolan...I was in a FABULOUS Mood and energized. Not pumped or anything like that as It wasn't a workout day but.
If that is how this stuff makes me feel HOT DAMN!!!! I didn't get to sleep till 4 am.
That's right D bol and primo was what I heard my bad.
If that is how this stuff makes me feel HOT DAMN!!!! I didn't get to sleep till 4 am.
That's right D bol and primo was what I heard my bad.
Cal_21
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lol Why don't you just run the two compounds concurrently?
(After you've fully recovered)
You don't want to do EQ by itself anyways.
+WTF 26 wks on cycle? Talk about go-nads to no-nads.
