2 wk bulk/ 2 wk cutting repeated cycle - mods, ur thoughts

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

Designer 2wk bulk/2wk cut continuous cycle - mods, ur thoughts

been looking at this and doing some research. This is designed to not alow the body to over compensate and build muscle and cut up alternatively. also doesnt allow the sides or toxicity to creep up and all are fast acting and clear the body quickly. also would like input on the phenformin placement to help with the bulk up as well as the combo for fina/aboms/oxan then winny/dbol/masteron. winny/abombs - fina/dbol better??? Also any inputs on the workout cycle would be great as well. looking for sizable but steady and keepable gains - 206lb 5'10"


Week 1-2 ED
100mg Finaplix (EOD)
50mg Anadrol
40mg Anavar
.25mg Arimdex
25mg Phenformin
6g Creatine
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Heavy lifting – HIT routines, etc. each body part 3x over 2 weeks, sprints on off days

Week 3-4 ED
50mg Clomid (150mg 1st day)
300mg DNP
25-50mcg T3
.2mg Clen
ECA
5mg GHRP2
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Lighter lifting more running, aerobic exercise, some sprints

Week 5-6 ED
50mg Winstrol
50mg Masteron
50mg Dbol
.25mg Arimdex
25mg Phenformin
6g Creatine
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Heavy lifting – HIT routines, etc. each body part 3x over 2 weeks, sprints on off days

Week 7-8 ED
50mg Clomid (150mg 1st day)
300mg DNP
25-50mcg T3
.2mg Clen
ECA
5mg GHRP2
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Lighter lifting more running, aerobic exercise

Week 9-10
Rest, clear system, continue mixed workouts

Week 11+
REPEAT

 

[ISE]

bump, it sounds good to me

 

[thefacelessballer]

sound interesting.. try it out and let us know what happens

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

come on guys, where is cockdiezel, fonz, stew, weem and the gang when u need them???? Mustang put ur 2 cents in - anyone, anyone on any of my questions?

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

bump for info

 

[MUSTANG_18]

It sounds like an interesting cycle to me. I would love to hear results from this if you decide to give it a try. Good Luck!

M18

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

any input on the phenformin while bulking ALA while cutting?

 

[serge]

i would just keep things simple and not comfuse the body, go on 8 weeks all out bulking followed by 8 weeks cutting

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

serge that is my point - longer cycles confuse the body, thats why its harder to reset everything afterwards. Also the heavy hitters like dbol and aboms start loosing effectiveness within 2-3 weeks while upping the toxicity. fina shouldnt be used more than 6 weeks soooo - the anavar is to crank up the strength and masteron, winny and fina are there to keep me from becoming the stay puff marshmellow man. - meanwhile the 2 weeks cuttup allows to drop the water and some fat (cant help it on that DNP, even low dose).

maybe a 3/3/3/3 program would work also, any comments???

also on the phenformin during the bulk cycle, helpfull??

dosages???

 

[BigPapaPump]

This is crazy. Your body does not become 'confused' while using gear. Growth come from the body adapting to the changes.

The biggest problem with your thinking is that by using these short little cycles, your body never has a chance to grow. You will have no idea how your body will react and grow by constantly changing gear, not to mention the adjustments to diet.

If you want a true short cycle, you need to use much much higher amounts of different substances. Dbol and abombs are not 'heavy hitters', will not make you turn into 'puff boy' and do not loose effectiveness in 2 to 3 wks.

Cutting cycles are designed to be temporary, you can not gain quality muscle while 'cutting'.

I'm really not flaming you but you have made things much to complicated. Stick to the traditional bulk then cut cycles. You will retain much more mass and be healthier.

Your weeks 7 to 8 will cause you to loose anything, and I mean anything that you might have gained, t3 needs an anabolic to prevent it from being very catabolic. Combining t3 and dnp is almost suicide.

Your workouts are flawed, going from HIT to high reps in a matter of weeks will serve no purpose.

If you're really just after a toned look then stick with something very basic. Providing you're lean now, you will be happy with an anavar and winny stack, followed of course with a good diet and training plan.

The money that you are considering or have spent with all this gear might have been better spent on some good old test.

BPP

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

thx 4 ur feedback bigpappa. ur input is greatly appreciated. I have seen several studies done on short cycles and was trying to set one up continuously that made sense. I would be betteer off if it were all orals as a) its less risky in the shipping b) easier to hide in my shelf of vitamins - our house is sorta high traffic, dont need the added exposure of pins if i can help it and dont have a bud who i can stash them with.

actually confused was ment to imply the body adapting to exogenious imput, nullifying the effects of the input. eca, clen, roids, t3 all - u will cease to see gains and become relatively dependent on the external input to maintain a steady state due to overreaction in ur body. thats what I was trying to avoid as well as the toxicity for those orals. btw: what i was implying with dbol, abombs being the heavies meaning water retention but they do have a reputation for some heavy size gains as well. they are reputed (from what ive seen) also to reach peak effectiveness around 2-3 weeks (abombs anyhow) - that doesnt mean they are finished obviously.

also

Combining t3 and dnp is almost suicide

im sure some others on this board might respectfully diagree. after dnp usage of about 5-6 days the thyroid begins to downregulate due to the increased metabolism. I found this to be true on my cycle of DNP (13 days total) and 300mg a day is a "comfortable" dose for me - vs the 600 i was on some days - arrrrrrrrrgghghggghgg!!

 

[BigWh1tey]

Re: Designer 2wk bulk/2wk cut continuous cycle - mods, ur thoughts

been looking at this and doing some research. This is designed to not alow the body to over compensate and build muscle and cut up alternatively. also doesnt allow the sides or toxicity to creep up and all are fast acting and clear the body quickly. also would like input on the phenformin placement to help with the bulk up as well as the combo for fina/aboms/oxan then winny/dbol/masteron. winny/abombs - fina/dbol better??? Also any inputs on the workout cycle would be great as well. looking for sizable but steady and keepable gains - 206lb 5'10"


Week 1-2 ED
100mg Finaplix (EOD)
50mg Anadrol
40mg Anavar
.25mg Arimdex
25mg Phenformin
6g Creatine
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Heavy lifting ? HIT routines, etc. each body part 3x over 2 weeks, sprints on off days

Week 3-4 ED
50mg Clomid (150mg 1st day)
300mg DNP
25-50mcg T3
.2mg Clen
ECA
5mg GHRP2
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Lighter lifting more running, aerobic exercise, some sprints

Week 5-6 ED
50mg Winstrol
50mg Masteron
50mg Dbol
.25mg Arimdex
25mg Phenformin
6g Creatine
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Heavy lifting ? HIT routines, etc. each body part 3x over 2 weeks, sprints on off days

Week 7-8 ED
50mg Clomid (150mg 1st day)
300mg DNP
25-50mcg T3
.2mg Clen
ECA
5mg GHRP2
Milk thistle
Cranberry extract
Flax lingans
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Lighter lifting more running, aerobic exercise

Week 9-10
Rest, clear system, continue mixed workouts

Week 11+
REPEAT

yeah .. i hear thats what all the pros are doing ... Do yourself a favor , don't try to re-invent the wheel , if you need to know what works , just ask someone who knows based on your goals. If you have the $ to spend for the drugs you just outlined then you have the $$ to get a great trainer ( look for one that works with pros or high level national competitors ) , and pick his brain about what he? she thinks will work to attain your goals .... just my .02

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

If you have the $ to spend for the drugs you just outlined

actually if u note my cycle is mostly made up of our asian friends orals - but im also tempted to put 75mgED of test suspension in the mix (bulking cycel) - the price is right - whole thing (10 weeks) wont set me back more than $3-400 (if I add the test) including supps and protein - that is assuming i do several. darn anavar is still expensive no matter what - maybe ill just get more masteron instead!

 

[ryker77]

I know his prices are very good and you think that its so cheap that I can just buy more and take more.
But you need to remember that most of the vets and mods have never done or tried anthing like this. I would take a look at who has the most knowledge:

A. a guy who has a few books on AS and a couple of sources.

B. A guy who has been around AS for many years and has more training logs than you have books on AS. The same guy that has followed and improved the rules of gear useage.

I myself listen to the elders.

Do the same!

 

[OMEGA]

so what happenened?