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Yes its not the best AI for on cycle use i keep A-dex on hand but dont use it .
And never take my Clomid over 50mg ed for pct , thats when sides start and you dont need it any higher .
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Brad.
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Yes its not the best AI for on cycle use i keep A-dex on hand but dont use it .
And never take my Clomid over 50mg ed for pct , thats when sides start and you dont need it any higher .
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Brad.
bangnbounce
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bumping the test e down to 250mg a week, but adding dbol, what weeks and dosages would be ideal for this run?
oh and hesnobradpitt, what do you think about just nolva for pct and no clomid? no hcg should be needed correct?
oh and hesnobradpitt, what do you think about just nolva for pct and no clomid? no hcg should be needed correct?
weeks 1-10--test e 250mg/wk
weeks 1-5--dbol 20mg/day
i would run small dose of hcg weeks 11-13 (3 weeks), it wont cut into your gains and ramps your nuts up to where they should be.
bangnbounce
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thanks, i didnt think it would be needed with the nolva but i guess it is. just hard to get ahold of ,,,,, 
bangnbounce
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So your just saying HCG and no nolva or clomid for PCT. For some reason i thought HCG wouldnt really be needed for such a low dose test cycle. And what are your thoughts on running nolva during the cycle? Iv heard of doing it. OR should i just keep it on hand in case of some flare ups?
You should be able to bulk to 190 in 3 months without juice brohemoth. You just need to eat more. I'd do that first, and then cycle to a good 210-215 or so. Then cut up down to a solid 200.
Bam, 6 months and you can be 200 solid with hard work and good eating.
Bam, 6 months and you can be 200 solid with hard work and good eating.
bangnbounce
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all the conflicting opinions... sigh ....
Well, in all honesty bro, 6 ft 170 is skinny. No disrespect. I was 6'2" 170-175 when I started lifting and I was skinny.
You should just start eating like crazy and put on some good weight before you use any juice.
I'll say this:
Guys who can get big naturally will be huge on steroids. Guys that can't get huge naturally (which almost all of the time it is due to diet flaws or in a few cases terrible training methods) will not benefit from steroids because they will just get small again when they come off the juice. I thappens all the time. Don't be one of those guys.
So, having said that, you need to learn how to gain naturally at a consistent pace for a long period of time before you think you should use steroids. Otherwise, they will do you no good in the long run, or even relatively short-term.
bangnbounce
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well im honestly about 5'10.5, usually around 175-185lb range. Big chest, Big arms, with a lil beer gut, and the occassional tad of fat around the lower chest. 
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