For all you lefty WIkileaks supporters...

[EnderJE]

If we actually still had investigative journalists in this country that may work.

True, but we don't so we do what we can.

 

[mrplunkey]

If we actually still had investigative journalists in this country that may work.

I generally agree with this. They investigate, but it's usually agenda-driven.

The problem is, trading in stolen documents and mass-publishing them isn't a substitute for journalism any more than vigilante lynch mobs are a substitute for police patrols.

 

[nimbus]

That's a huge crime as well. If Bradley Manning did leak that information, he needs to face a firing squad.

But just because someone stole it for you means you can freely use the information. If one of my competitor's employees steals a bunch of proprietary documents, that doesn't mean I get to freely use them simply because I didn't do the stealing.

wikileaks doesnt use the info, they just publish it. and don't charge money

it's just like a bulletin board that a lot more people read. and that people post fucked up shit on.

but imo the only people who are really fucking up here are the people leaking info, and governments who aren't protecting their information well enough

 

[75th]

The funny thing is that this info was so easy for a PFC to acquire due to the changes in information sharing procedures the various departments were compelled to take on after 9/11.

Kind of a damned if you do, damned if you dont type of scenario.

 

[SpyWizard]

I consider stolen secret documents regarding the military as far more important then the names and DoB's of people who have had a.medical procedure.

And don't I have a right to know if my prospective wife or girlfriend has been using planned parenthood like a convenience store? I'd sure want to know.that before I knew the names of afghans cooperating with the US military.

do you think you have a right to stop an abortion of your unborn son/daughter??

right now you don't..

 

[mrplunkey]

wikileaks doesnt use the info, they just publish it. and don't charge money

it's just like a bulletin board that a lot more people read. and that people post fucked up shit on.

but imo the only people who are really fucking up here are the people leaking info, and governments who aren't protecting their information well enough

Then let's try this: One of my competitor's employees gets canned and it pisses him off. He then emails me a list of everything they sell by customer, item number, quantity sold and price for the current year. Can I publish it on my SalesForce.com website? It's just a bulletin board that my sales reps read. Or better yet, can I just post everything up on a website and let everyone jump-in on the info?

 

[nimbus]

Then let's try this: One of my competitor's employees gets canned and it pisses him off. He then emails me a list of everything they sell by customer, item number, quantity sold and price for the current year. Can I publish it on my SalesForce.com website? It's just a bulletin board that my sales reps read. Or better yet, can I just post everything up on a website and let everyone jump-in on the info?

yes. the employee is at fault, not you. you are just disseminating truthful information, which you never agreed to keep confidential. the employee, however, probably is bound by some sort of confidentiality agreement. and if he isn't, it's the company's fault.

 

[mrplunkey]

yes. the employee is at fault, not you. you are just disseminating truthful information, which you never agreed to keep confidential. the employee, however, probably is bound by some sort of confidentiality agreement. and if he isn't, it's the company's fault.

And yet I would be sued to hell and back.

And I would lose.

Do a little research on the subject. Just because someone hands you a stolen apple means you get to eat it. Consider the consequences of the system working any other way -- it would be anarchy.

 

[b0und]

There are more than 800,000 people with a TOP SECRET clearance, the US gubment had this shit coming.

The only surprise is that it didn't come earlier.

After Brady Manning it will be somebody else.

Whistle blowers are her to stay.











b0und (tough luck)

 

[mrplunkey]

There are more than 800,000 people with a TOP SECRET clearance, the US gubment had this shit coming.

The only surprise is that it didn't come earlier.

After Brady Manning it will be somebody else.

Whistle blowers are her to stay.

b0und (tough luck)

Wow... maybe I should reserve the name: "www.Wikiabortionleaks.org". I bet I could make some serious dough on the click-through advertising.

Please don't lose your zeal for dishing-out "tough lucks" when people scream.