For all you lefty WIkileaks supporters...

[EnderJE]

The possibility of leaks can and has been an interesting check-and-balance on government. It's not that I'm 100% against leaks, but I am 100% against sources that solicit and bulk publish illegally-obtained data.

For example, the Hillary spy stuff is fair game. But do it the traditional way: Verify the source, ask the state department for comment and then run the story. Dumping hundreds or thousands of confidential documents on the Internet isn't constructive.

Damn you and your rational / civil disagreements. I'm getting you this for XMas.

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[mrplunkey]

Damn you and your rational / civil disagreements. I'm getting you this for XMas.

Vibram Five Fingers: Discover the Barefooting Alternative

Those slippers are gayer than pick3 jerking-off to a video of Siegfried felching Roy.

Just sayin'

 

[b0und]

What razorguns said.

Also, the US doesn't just come off all evil in the cables anyway.

Some of that info is pretty useful to come out this way. Like that all the Arab states want the US and Israel to really fuck up Iran's nuclear weapons program. No diplomat could ever say that out loud.

Besides plunkey, you're crying over spilt milk. The cat is out of the bag now. What has become known cannot become unknown again.

In this age there will be whistle blowers like Bradley Manning and leakers like Julian Assange that is now a fact.

I can't wait for them to dish the dirt on Goldman/Sachs.






b0und (hah!)

 

[mrplunkey]

What razorguns said.

Also, the US doesn't just come off all evil in the cables anyway.

Some of that info is pretty useful to come out this way. Like that all the Arab states want the US and Israel to really fuck up Iran's nuclear weapons program. No diplomat could ever say that out loud.

Besides plunkey, you're crying over spilt milk. The cat is out of the bag now. What has become known cannot become unknown again.

In this age there will be whistle blowers like Bradley Manning and leakers like Julian Assange that is now a fact.

I can't wait for them to dish the dirt on Goldman/Sachs.


b0und (hah!)

And like I said in the original premise of this thread. If this has been the names/DoB's of abortion patients stolen from planned parenthood, I seriously doubt you'd be talking about spilt milk and ending a post with "hah".

 

[nimbus]

If hackers broke into planned parenthood's databases (a criminal act, obviously) and turned-over a list of every person who has ever had an abortion, would Wikileaks publishing their full name and date of birth be a good thing?

the crime should be hacking, not providing an outlet to disseminate information

 

[mrplunkey]

the crime should be hacking, not providing an outlet to disseminate information

That's a huge crime as well. If Bradley Manning did leak that information, he needs to face a firing squad.

But just because someone stole it for you means you can freely use the information. If one of my competitor's employees steals a bunch of proprietary documents, that doesn't mean I get to freely use them simply because I didn't do the stealing.

 

[trex74]

If hackers broke into planned parenthood's databases (a criminal act, obviously) and turned-over a list of every person who has ever had an abortion, would Wikileaks publishing their full name and date of birth be a good thing?

No, it would not be a good thing. People have the right to privacy-especially in health matters.
Wikileaks really burns me. Information is not always meant for the masses because they don't see the big picture. Regular joes are not meant to run the country and undertake sensitive diplomatic workings. They have no idea how to manage proper protocol between different countries. Hell, I'd be impressed if the majority of people who have got on the Wikileaks bandwagon could manage their own households properly. It is all too easy to sit back and demand that your government explain itself on certain matters when you are watching from the sidelines with nothing to lose. Perhaps Julien Assange should run for, and win, political leadership somewhere, and then he could release as much sensitive information about his political decisions as he wishes.

 

[digimon7068]

or if wikileaks leaked the names of all of the sources for every compelling story written by the press...would that be a good thing? no secrets for anyone? no protection for whistleblowers? just throw'em all to the wolves! would that be a good thing???

 

[75th]

For example, the Hillary spy stuff is fair game. But do it the traditional way: Verify the source, ask the state department for comment and then run the story.

If we actually still had investigative journalists in this country that may work.

 

[EnderJE]

No, it would not be a good thing. People have the right to privacy-especially in health matters.
Wikileaks really burns me. Information is not always meant for the masses because they don't see the big picture. Regular joes are not meant to run the country and undertake sensitive diplomatic workings. They have no idea how to manage proper protocol between different countries. Hell, I'd be impressed if the majority of people who have got on the Wikileaks bandwagon could manage their own households properly. It is all too easy to sit back and demand that your government explain itself on certain matters when you are watching from the sidelines with nothing to lose. Perhaps Julien Assange should run for, and win, political leadership somewhere, and then he could release as much sensitive information about his political decisions as he wishes.

The part that's funny about your post is that I generally agree, but people reduce things to sound bites and short views and over - generalizations (like your post did).