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WTF, so pissed. I lost everything I worked for so hard!

Welcome to steroids bro when you run a compound that may really be dbol and your gains were mostly water weight and you didn't build a solid foundation first and were inexperienced going into your PCT.

its normal to lose strength ! your test levels were 1500+ then went to <100 and you were carrying water weight which helped your strength even more. what did u expect?
 
If this was your first cycle I'm not suprised you lost a lot of size. The main reason being your body isn't ready to hold unto that much muscle! I blew up 30 pounds my first cycle. I lost most of it even though I did a full pct. It took me a couple of cycles before my body was use to carrying that much extra size!
 
If this was your first cycle I'm not suprised you lost a lot of size. The main reason being your body isn't ready to hold unto that much muscle! I blew up 30 pounds my first cycle. I lost most of it even though I did a full pct. It took me a couple of cycles before my body was use to carrying that much extra size!

Another good point bro... However now there is ways to hold it.
 
I did my cycle anavar 60 mg and test e 250 mg x week +hcg and nolva for PCT. I was training and eating so hard! I was training 6 times a week 3 hours a day and I went from 177 lbs to 203 lbs. Today I am 3rd week into PCT and I lost over 17 lbs!!! i am 185.6 lbs!!! Although my strength nor libido did not really get affected, my size vanished drastically and now it seems as if I wasted 10 weeks of working so hard. I am scared I am gonna lose another 8 lbs and go back to my original weight, help!

"I was training 6 times a week 3 hours a day "

sounds liek over trainnign tome even on stewroids and if you where trainnign liek this while off then im no serprized you lost it all.

id rc you only train 3-4 times a week (about every other day) and ONLY for 30-60min NOT 3 hrs .

google "DC trainning"!
i do somthing liek that and many other also and it works nicly.

you grow WHEN RESTING nor when in gym.

and when off cycle you should be altering how you train as apposed to on cycle.
look into need2slin .
its a very nice product you can use on or off cycle for more gains and help keep fat off also.
 
also 10lbs gains is a GOOD cycle!
dont knwo what yoru complaing about with sucha mild cycle and keeping 10lb. could have been a bit more probibly if trainning wat fixed upa bit.
 
+hcg and nolva for PCT
you realixe HCG during PCt is NOT a good idea and will only make recovery harder right?
during cycle or during end of cycle say, last 5 weeks leading up to BUT NOT INTO pct would be best. (this is how i rec it)
 
you realixe HCG during PCt is NOT a good idea and will only make recovery harder right?
during cycle or during end of cycle say, last 5 weeks leading up to BUT NOT INTO pct would be best. (this is how i rec it)

Agree there. HCG should be run to help you when you hit a PCT, not run and used as part of your PCT. A few weeks posisbly but PCT should defo last longer than the HCG itself.

I think tbh all this topic comes down to is the mistake new users make to muscle mass and water mass. If you think your body is going to naturaly hold all the water after cycle your just kidding yourself on. The amount of weight also from water was crazy from test and anavar alone. Anavar strength is also 90% keepable so Im wondering if your anavar was infact dbol??

Harry
 
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