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Quitting Cycle

Is nolvadex the same as clomid, I know he has that?

As long as he isn't on deca or tren, then he can use nolvadex for PCT (although it never worked as well for me as clomid did).

If he is using deca or tren on his cycle, then he should absolutely avoid nolvadex.
 
OH BOY, Thats gonna be a tuff one. Not too good to be on Tren and Deca together. You should slap his ass for doing that with out knowing what he was doing. Then get him on the recommended PCT per PCT sticky on here.
Good luck to both of you as you are going to have to be one patient lady with him on this.
 
what do you mean by nasty ,you mean he doesn't bathe ,or nasty like oily skin?

I have to warn you runnin Tren with Deca is gonna completely kill his sex drive for a long time so i hope you are a patient lady!
 
No need to decrease injection; just switch to HCG for 3 weeks to restore the testes to full size and function and then 4 weeks of PCT. Clomid will work for that.

wk 1-3: HCG - 500IU EOD for 20 days (5,000 IU total)
wk 4-7: Clomid 50mg/day


The only information you gave is that he was on way too long but what I recommended is probably the best he can do regardless. He can expect a period of lethargy, depression, and erectile disfunction during wks 4-7 while his HPTA is recovering and his testosterone is low. Without the HCG, this period would last even longer.

The clomid only hastens the recovery of testosterone production, it doesn't make up for it. In fact, it can make you emotional and weepy like a girl PMSing. Viagra can help with the ED but the rest you pretty much have to tough out.

There are other, newer PCT products available through sponsors of this board (such as Unleashed) that can be used in place of the clomid. However, I don't have any experience with them.

Be prepared for the emotional side effects though; they will be profound. It's not easy to go from feeling like Superman to the complete opposite in just a few weeks.

Good stuff.
 
I mean he is nasty, mouthy, mean!! He has been on for about 7 months with no break, so he is agreeing that he needs to take a break. He still has sex drive, will it go away when it is all out of his system?
 
Im surprized that he has any sex drive at all. But most lilely when he goes off what he has is gonna be gone. Maybe good time to invest in toys???teasing you girl.:p
 
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