Steroids and the immune system

[J-S]

I was just curious to know how a steroid such as EQ or an oral like Tbol or Dbol or any other would affect your immune system. In a sense that it lowers your own protection and you would be more prone to catch colds or flus.

Let me know if anybody can comment on this.

I'm just curious cuz I seem to have had a sinus infection during my last cycle and would want to avoid it again as much as possible!!

 

[stevesmi]

my last cycle i was never sick while on..

 

[OMEGA]

Test, deca, Primo tend to enhance immune stsytem

Tren, high EQ, orals ( out side dbol) tend to lower it over time

 

[stevesmi]

Test, deca, Primo tend to enhance immune stsytem

Tren, high EQ, orals ( out side dbol) tend to lower it over time

no wonder I was like a bull when i was on deca and test.

 

[J-S]

I plan on starting an Eq only cycle and was just worried to get another sinus infection so if I'm prone to it chances are good while on a AAS like EQ to get it again I guess.

I am talking while on aswell not during PCT

 

[OMEGA]

I plan on starting an Eq only cycle

thats not a good idea bro

 

[goal245]

I did a bit of research on this subject and many studies show that androgens lower immune function. Test deca, tren etc lower immune funtion. Not all studies i found were done on humans but it should be no different from other animals.

Here are some excerpts:

"The immunocompetence handicap hypothesis (ICHH) suggests that the male sex hormone testosterone has a dual effect; it controls the development and expression of male sexually selected signals, and it suppresses the immune system. Therefore only high quality males are able to fully express secondary sexual traits because only they can tolerate the immunosuppressive qualities of testosterone. "

"Results indicate that prolonged elevation of testosterone suppresses antibody production in captive males and cell‐mediated immunity in wild males. "

 

[J-S]

so would there be anything to take along side to keep this from happening?

 

[Vítor Rage]

In some people ,steroids , mainly the most androgenic ,like test ,tren ,dbol, can really supresse immune function. I have seen some atletles that when are on a tren cycle , develops genital warts due to hpv (hpv is a very prevalent infection, but needs a low immune funcion to develop sintoms - warts).
It is very important to try to feed immune system with plenty of vitamins, antioxidants, and sometimes other immune boosters like zinc, epicor, equinacea, levamisole , timomoduline and others.

 

[stevesmi]

its funny i asked a doctor this exact question, if steroids hurt the immune system.. he said 'no, it only hurts the liver'

of course i doubt the guy knew what he was talking about

 

[pavlenko]

most doctors dont know much about cycling, theres is only handfull probobly in the US

 

[Deltoid_87]

I have seen some atletles that when are on a tren cycle , develops genital warts due to hpv (hpv is a very prevalent infection, but needs a low immune funcion to develop sintoms - warts).
.

Or maybe they just forgot to wrap their tool...lol

 

[brandonp005]

i read many studies showing anabolics weakens the immune system.....i used to get sick all the time when on...i started using some echinacea with golden seal and it has helped a bunch...vitamin c is another good supplement to throw in there to help keep ya feeling good

 

[brandonp005]

Needto....how about putting something together with a blend of some yellow root, echinacea, golden seal, and vitamin c

Call it NTFG "Needtofeelgood"......The Cycling Mans Vitamin! That way I can eliminate most of my pills!

 

[stevesmi]

most doctors dont know much about ANYTHING, theres is only handfull probobly in the US

changed one word in what you said.. lol.. and its so freakin true.

 

[Varga]

If you stay on for too long it does affect your immune system somewhat. I've seen some difference over the years of lowered immune response on occations but it gets back to normal when I lower dosages to about 300mg of test or lower.
In the long run though I would say that steroids does affect the immune system but not as much as people making it out to be and if you just cycle then go off it shouldnt really be of any concern.
And yes, vit C helps a lot if taken daily.

 

[needtogetaas]

so would there be anything to take along side to keep this from happening?

Yes there will be. I am in the process of making a stack for this. The products to take would be

1. Vicodene TM


2. GEAR


3 dx7 or a good multi


I will of course do a write up and explanation as to why when the time comes.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes there will be. I am in the process of making a stack for this. The products to take would be

1. Vicodene TM


2. GEAR


3 dx7 or a good multi


I will of course do a write up and explanation as to why when the time comes.

Yep. That am maybe a little extra Vit C is the best thing you can do.

 

[stevesmi]

people underate vitamin D also.

especially in eastern medicine they believe in getting sun to strengthen the immune system also

 

[goal245]

does low testosterone not have a negative effect on the immune system?

not directly, women have stronger immune systems because of lower test levels. but i think a male with low test levels will be more stressed/depressed and will have lower immune function because of that.

 

[Tshark]

i don't know if i've ever been sick on a cycle. I usually just run test, tren, and dbol

 

[sara_xo]

What about Winstrol or Anavar.. how much does this lower one's immune system.. would it cause sickness more often than non in someone with an already weak immune system?

 

[sara_xo]

what about Clen/Var/Winny? You guys are talking about the stronger types of Steroids...

I'm a female.. never expierenced anytype of STD, and It doesn't show up in my blood stream.. was at the Dr's last week.. but low and behold BOOM! I've got a genital wart outbreak and I now need to have them burn off... umm.. any help would be wonderful.

 

[lartinos]

what about Clen/Var/Winny? You guys are talking about the stronger types of Steroids...

I'm a female.. never expierenced anytype of STD, and It doesn't show up in my blood stream.. was at the Dr's last week.. but low and behold BOOM! I've got a genital wart outbreak and I now need to have them burn off... umm.. any help would be wonderful.

I posted you help in the other thread.

 

[uberreem]

bump for this one

i have a bowel condition called crohns and immunosuppresants have saved my life (humira)......before starting my test cycle i wanted to know what the impact would be on my disease, based on my research test lowers the immune system (which is good for me) and deca increases the immune system (bad for me)

it appears that immunoresponse is based on the steroids androgenslevels. As thatbloke said "high androgens lower immune system"

now i find myself looking to do a lean gains cycle, test/deca would have been my choice but deca isnt right for my condition

i think test/Equipoise may be the way to go.........can anyone please chime in and advise me if they think this will create a suppressed immune system or enhance? if you have an autoimmune disorder please let me know your experience

i thank you in advance

 

[stevesmi]

could you please not bump and hijack old threads? make your own thread man!!