Iggy's IMAC brings all the girls to the yard

[layinback]

Honestly I can't stand the coens. They are incredibly overrated in my opinion. Phantasm is a near-perfect low budget horror film. Check out "Troll 2" if you haven't seen it bro.

lol I can't believe you mentioned that movie! George Hardy is a personal friend
of mine. He's a dentist in a small town about 30 miles from where i live.

He has some funny stories about making that movie. He told me there's gonna
be a 4th installment. Oh and Troll 2 is BAD and I mean horrible.

Btw, I know Donnie Darko and i know you are an aspiring film maker. I didn't
know the scope of your interest, but anybody who'd bother with a Darko poster
has at least an eclectic taste in film.
I'm a lover of shlock and fine cinema alike. No coen bros? well i guess we all
have differing taste. My interests may be a function of my age and a product of my
personality type.

 

[BlueBird]

Honestly I can't stand the coens. They are incredibly overrated in my opinion.

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that. lalalllallallala

Oh, and I have a computer, too.

 

[iggy]

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that. lalalllallallala

Oh, and I have a computer, too.

Honestly Bluebird, i've seen half of all their work.
Films by them I haven't seen
Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Hudsucker Proxy, The Man Who Wasn't There, Intolerable Cruelty, The Ladykillers, True Grit

Ratings of films I have seen
Millers Crossing - 3/5 - Shot very well. Decent story and acting. Just didn't care much about the main character. Not enough character development in my opinion.
Barton Fink - 3.5/5 - Great depiction of a hollywood screenwriter. Barton strives to be a true artist, yet fails miserably in the end. Superb acting by John Goodman and beautiful cinematography, yet the climax of the film fails miserably in my opinion.
Fargo - 3/5 - An overrated picture in my opinion. Probably since it's so "real" it's boring at times. Steve Buscemi shines.
The Big Lebowski - 5/5 - The Coen's masterpiece in my opinion. excellent, excellent film. Bridges is the perfect role for Lebowski. Goodman steals every scene he's in.
O Brother Where Art Thou - 2.5/5
No Country for Old Men - 1/5 - Sloppy story with no character development clumsily put together. I honestly didn't care about a thing in the story. medicore monologue at the climax.
Burn After Reading - 1/5 - Clooney, Malkovich, and Brad Pitt couldn't save this film.
A Serious Man - 2/5 - Once again the Coen's REPEAT their THEMES. Bad things happen to a not so bad guy. More bad things happen to him. Richard Kind played the loser brother perfectly.

To Bluebird and layinback - You two grew up with the Coen's. I respect them as filmmakers and your opinion. To me, they made 1-2 great films, a couple of good films, and the rest are just mediocre at best. They did NOT however, make some of the best films in the history of cinema however. I firmly believe they made much better films in their early days. What do you two see in them? Am I missing something? I've honestly tried to like them, but this is all I get out of them.

You two grew up around the days of Scarface, Amadeus, Brazil, Hannah and Her Sisters, The Untouchables, Cinema Paradiso, A Short Film about love, Goodfellas, The Silence of the Lambs, Chungking Express, L.A. Confidential, Rushmore, American Beauty, Boogie Nights, Life is Beautiful, Pulp Fiction, The Matrix, Leaving Las Vegas, Shawshank Redemption, Forrest Gump, Schindler's List, Do the Right Thing, Back to The Future, and Raging Bull. The only film I would group with those and a few others is "The Big Lebowski" because of its cult classic rating. "Fargo" and "No Country for old men" are by no means horrible films, just mediocre in my opinion.

 

[calveless wonder]

No country for old men was a great movie. wtf you talking about ngr

 

[BlueBird]

Honestly Bluebird, i've seen half of all their work.
Films by them I haven't seen
Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Hudsucker Proxy, The Man Who Wasn't There, Intolerable Cruelty, The Ladykillers, True Grit

You can skip The Ladykillers. lol You must see Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Hudsucker Proxy (sublime Paul Newman performance), and The Man who Wasn't There, to fully appreciate the Coen catalog.

Ratings of films I have seen
Millers Crossing - 3/5 - Shot very well. Decent story and acting. Just didn't care much about the main character. Not enough character development in my opinion.
Barton Fink - 3.5/5 - Great depiction of a hollywood screenwriter. Barton strives to be a true artist, yet fails miserably in the end. Superb acting by John Goodman and beautiful cinematography, yet the climax of the film fails miserably in my opinion.
Fargo - 3/5 - An overrated picture in my opinion. Probably since it's so "real" it's boring at times. Steve Buscemi shines.
The Big Lebowski - 5/5 - The Coen's masterpiece in my opinion. excellent, excellent film. Bridges is the perfect role for Lebowski. Goodman steals every scene he's in.
O Brother Where Art Thou - 2.5/5
No Country for Old Men - 1/5 - Sloppy story with no character development clumsily put together. I honestly didn't care about a thing in the story. medicore monologue at the climax.
Burn After Reading - 1/5 - Clooney, Malkovich, and Brad Pitt couldn't save this film.
A Serious Man - 2/5 - Once again the Coen's REPEAT their THEMES. Bad things happen to a not so bad guy. More bad things happen to him. Richard Kind played the loser brother perfectly.

I wouldn't suggest you change your opinion, people's tastes are different. IMO, No Country for Old Men is as good as Antonioni at his peak. Fargo was pretty much an example of form following function to perfection.

They did NOT however, make some of the best films in the history of cinema however. I firmly believe they made much better films in their early days. What do you two see in them? Am I missing something? I've honestly tried to like them, but this is all I get out of them.

No, you're not missing anything. Your job as a film student is to deconstruct what you see up on the screen. Your personal palatte is just that, personal. And you ARE getting something out of it. You're developing a personal aesthetic rooted in the history of the artform. You need to understand the language of all your predesessors if you really want to contribute to the tradition.

You two grew up around the days of Scarface, Amadeus, Brazil, Hannah and Her Sisters, The Untouchables, Cinema Paradiso, A Short Film about love, Goodfellas, The Silence of the Lambs, Chungking Express, L.A. Confidential, Rushmore, American Beauty, Boogie Nights, Life is Beautiful, Pulp Fiction, The Matrix, Leaving Las Vegas, Shawshank Redemption, Forrest Gump, Schindler's List, Do the Right Thing, Back to The Future, and Raging Bull. The only film I would group with those and a few others is "The Big Lebowski" because of its cult classic rating. "Fargo" and "No Country for old men" are by no means horrible films, just mediocre in my opinion.

Well, I was a bit young when those first few came out but I understand what you're saying. Goodfellas I do remember seeing on first release. IMO, a handful of Coen films would be right at home on that list.

 

[puddlemonkey]

The Big Lebowski - 5/5 - The Coen's masterpiece in my opinion. excellent, excellent film. Bridges is the perfect role for Lebowski. Goodman steals every scene he's in.
No Country for Old Men - 1/5 - Sloppy story with no character development clumsily put together. I honestly didn't care about a thing in the story. medicore monologue at the climax.

Proof you're young and dumb. Lebowski was an overrated joke.

 

[iggy]

Proof you're young and dumb. Lebowski was an overrated joke.

yeah right. I saw your beloved "The Machinist" the other day. it was PATHETIC. 2.5/5 at BEST. Nothing was good in the film besides Bale's superb ability to lose 90lbs for the role.

 

[iggy]

You can skip The Ladykillers. lol You must see Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Hudsucker Proxy (sublime Paul Newman performance), and The Man who Wasn't There, to fully appreciate the Coen catalog.



I wouldn't suggest you change your opinion, people's tastes are different. IMO, No Country for Old Men is as good as Antonioni at his peak. Fargo was pretty much an example of form following function to perfection.



No, you're not missing anything. Your job as a film student is to deconstruct what you see up on the screen. Your personal palatte is just that, personal. And you ARE getting something out of it. You're developing a personal aesthetic rooted in the history of the artform. You need to understand the language of all your predesessors if you really want to contribute to the tradition.



Well, I was a bit young when those first few came out but I understand what you're saying. Goodfellas I do remember seeing on first release. IMO, a handful of Coen films would be right at home on that list.

"Better off Dead" is another one of my favorites from the 80s.... Funny you brought up Antonioni. I saw L'avventura the other day and I couldn't stand it. I understand its about the Bourgeoisie living such boring lives that they play games with each other, live dull lives, and don't really "love" anyone. The cinematography was ravishing. Beautiful black and white shots. I was never able to understand Sandri's character development or motives. I found him to be a dull character, and I didn't like Vitti's acting either. The dialogue is so-so. All in all I think it's overrated. How is it one of the greats?

Have you seen Tarkovsky's "Mirror" Bluebird?

 

[hurricane]

iggss that computer is hawt..

iggnore the haters

 

[puddlemonkey]

yeah right. I saw your beloved "The Machinist" the other day. it was PATHETIC. 2.5/5 at BEST. Nothing was good in the film besides Bale's superb ability to lose 90lbs for the role.

jerkbox nailed it, you lack the attention span for movies like the machinist and no country.


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