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metalfujimi
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Ok so Im considering blasting and cruising. How many of you have done this and what was it like coming off?
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Made up terms. It's just staying on.
metalfujimi
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I meant coming off afterward though. Something like blast, cruise, blast, off
Explain. You mean doing lower dosed cycles?
metalfujimi
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I mean doing something like blast at 750 mg for 10 weeks, cruise at 250 for 10, blast with 750 for 10 and then come off after the 30 weeks. I dont mean staying on for years at a time or hrt.
metalfujimi
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is staying on for very long periods of time the only way to do it or can it be done with shorter periods such as my above mentioned 30 weeks?
metalfujimi
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Dont know why my post is out of order....
But anyway, yes I would imagine that it would be very hard to want to come off, psycologically. I am more concerned with the physical effects though. Mainly being shutdown for that long and how staying on that long would affect the heart. My cholesterol gets high on pretty much anything. Basically, whether or not it is actually safe to do this. If it is safe, I wouldn't hesitate to go one for awhile
Call it whatever you want, I call it heavy HRT. Coming off would be similar. PCT and then a long wait to fully recover. A second PCT may be in order but it isn;t like all you need to do it more and higher dosages of PCT. It'll only help so much.
I did it last year for 10 months. Wasnt really planned that way. But it just worked out that way. Took me about 5 months to recover. I was very moody for a few months. Because of the hormone imbalances not because I was depressed without gear. I used deca for 9 weeks right before I stoed too so I could have had a big lingering effect from that also. Bloodwork was all ok. I had an Echocardiogram and that was fine.
If our cholesterol is an issue then you NEED to take liid stabil. No if ands or buts. The shit works. I took it all the time I was on.
I'm probably going to cruise once this year. almost 4 weeks in right now. Havnt made made up my mind yet. Depends where I end up after 12 weeks.
If our cholesterol is an issue then you NEED to take liid stabil. No if ands or buts. The shit works. I took it all the time I was on.
I'm probably going to cruise once this year. almost 4 weeks in right now. Havnt made made up my mind yet. Depends where I end up after 12 weeks.
If you were to do a cycle, then PCT, then BRIDGE (as per instructions), then immediately hop on to the next cycle, would that be considered as not coming off? I am considering something like this, but am concerned if BRIDGE wont be considered as "real" time off for my body to normalize itself again, before I get on another cycle.
Thought about it. Realized its better to Blast and Bridge. No reason to stay on all the time.
dont blast and cruise unless you are willing to risk hrt. 30 weeks is to long. i would suggest just running 6 week cycles. hit it hard from the start with short or no esters eat to grow and train heavy then pct wait another month or 2 after pct then go again. dont use nandros with this plan. orals are a good choice. primo dbol or primo var or just dbol alone. you could also use tbol alone but id suggest dbol over tbol. the idea is to get big results then a quick easy recovery. then enough time to give your body a break then go again.
i put on over 40lbs of muscle this way in a short time and i was pretty much peaked naturally before i started.
i put on over 40lbs of muscle this way in a short time and i was pretty much peaked naturally before i started.
Why no deca or tren? I personally wouldnt do tren again. I love deca though. Obviously deca for 6 weeks is useless. But what about NPP?
nandros are hard to recover from period. the idea behind the short cycle used in place of blast and cruise is to go heavy get a quick big gain then recover quickly and easily. let your body freshen up then hit it again. nandros will screw up this process by keeping you shut down longer. i find dbol to be the best aas here.
i disagree that any aas used for a short time is useless. a steroid does not take enter your body and not get used if it isnt re supplied. if you took 4 weeks of deca you would get 4 weeks of results. they would be offset by the ester but the results would still be there.
in a short cycle soon followed by another cycle you should be using short or no esters because of timing. if you are running a short cycle then staying off for a while the ester will have no impact on results other than the time you see them and the difference in the actual hormone dosage with the esters attached.
What do you mean by "bridge" -- using BRIDGE the supplement? Well, yeah, that's being OFF. That's the whole point. It maintains a good amount of the "feel" of being on cycle while you recover.
If you mean "bridge" by using a low dose steroid, then you're "on."
WinnyPumps
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Who has tried the supplement Bridge and actually had noticeable results? To be honest many of the supplements I have taken in between cycles have been useless. How does bridge give you that ''feeling''? I am only asking because I am skeptical of 90% of supplements. I actually have a bottle of Bridge but haven't tried it yet.
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Regarding that statement. Before, I started training again 5 months ago. I felt lethargic, lazy and unmotivated and weak after being laid up for nearly 4 years.
Previously I trained for 7-8 years straight and peaked natrually before ever doing a cycle.
When I started again around 5 months ago I took The standard HRT hormone level test. My results were all within normal range per the Doc although I dont remember the numbers. But yet, before I put anything in me I felt like trash. And this was within a "NORMAL" Test range. If that is what it feels like to have a normalized hormone level again. I don't think I want to go back to that shit. In my opinion it's all how one feels. I walked around with a normal test level for most of them 4 years feeling bad. Too bad I didn't start HRT/ and cycling again sooner.
If getting the body back to pre-cycle balance after a cycle and I will feel like shitt anyway afterwards....what is the point?
If HRT MAKES ME FEEL better than being at a "normal T range"....is it really the big bad boogeyman "HRT" is sometimes compared to. Or at least some make it sound that way.
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Most supplements are bullshit. Look at the ingredients in BRIDGE and you'll see -- they're all valid and some are not available anywhere else. That's why it works and others don't.
In ALL my supplements I don't use pseudo science bullshit, magic or make stupid claims. It's very basic biology, effective ingredients with active concentrated extract and good dosages. Tey are actually conceived with a purpose whereas 99.9% of other supplements are just a bunch of shit thrown together. The people making them don't really know what they're doing and the people selling them have idea how they're supposed to work.
That's the difference.
If BRIDGE or UNLEASHED didn't work, you'd know it.
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i wasnt speaking for anyone. its a personal choice. i am right now prepaired for a year of hell just to not have to rely on hrt anymore. i dont want it if i dont need it. others could care less and are happy with trt. thats why i say if your not wiling to risk needing trt to stay on long. most people with a little know how could run short cycles, recover easily, and keep their gains.
Stocks_and_Steroids
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I should have said, I wasn't speaking for anyone either. How long you been on TRT? I am interested in your short cycles? Could you list some examples? How much break in between cycles? PCT? HCG? etc etc
i have been on for a couple years now. my cycling at its heaviest was something like this
1-4 2g test suspension ew
1-4 1g tren suspension ew
1-4 50mg dbol ed
5-8 300mg test suspension ew
9-15 3g test ew
9-15 1g deca ew
9-15 3 caps beastdrol 3 caps dieselbolan ed
16-20 300mg test ew
and so on
i also ran gh and several other drugs some not permitted here during this time.
this form of cycling had me up in the 280's at 5'5" but it almost cost me my life.
a similar method nut far healthier would be something like this
1-4 30mg dbol ed
5-8 50mg clomid/20mg nolva ed
9-10 0ff but on gh and other non aas
11-15 500mg prop ew
11-14 400mg npp ew
15-19 50mg clomid, 20mg nolva
20-24 off the aas but still using gh and other non aas compounds
and so on when you want to cut use primo and var. i would also run unleashed and hcgenerate throughout the whole thing.
Stocks_and_Steroids
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First 4 weeks pretty heavy dosages.
then cruise 3 weeks on Test Suspension.
Then 6 weeks of more heavy dosages.
I have to admit at 5'5'' you was a beast. But why cruise with Suspension? I though the short half life would make it a bad choice??? Just asking, as I know I can learn from you.
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Joe D is a beast
AlphaMaleDawg
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just curious what is an ideal dose to cruise on and for how long? 200mg for 10 weeks?
i stayed on the suspension for a more accurate dosage adjustment. when i went down on the dose i wanted it to drop right away while i upped the other compounds. the only difference in using suspension over and estered test is the dosing frequency. i was pinning 3x per day with aas and 4-6 times per day with the other stuff.
if i where to use p, e, or c, for the cruise phase id never get the timing as good and the dosages would over lap and fluctuate at the wrong times. suspension is very easy to control. when you inject it its there. later that day its wearing off.
Have you ever gotten blood work to see where the 300mg wk keeps your levels? Just curious where they were in relation to whats considered the "normal" range.
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