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Almost done with Tbol only cycle.

If the guy did well and made gains and learned something, I don't understand the point of saying he needed to do MORE.
 
If the guy did well and made gains and learned something, I don't understand the point of saying he needed to do MORE.

I got out of his post that he was dissapointed he only added 4 pounds.
 
He's 150 pounds. What he needs more of is FOOD.

exactly, yeah a lot of these younger guys dont eat enough.. they dont have enough money or eat what their baby boomer parents keep around the house, which is mostly processed and fatty junk.
 
I agree with everything here, but I will also point out something I always point out with tbol - it's a 4 weeker. MOST anyone including myself, report minimal to no gains starting in as earlier as week 4 unless the dosage is decently upped. Tbol just seems to tank at 4 weeks. It also has a long half life for an oral, so it "builds up" over time. So when you ran 20mg and 20mg in week 1 and 2, you weren't really running a good dose during the time in which it shines. I put on 3-4lbs in week 1-3 each time, and week 4 always just tapered right off. And tbol also needs lots of protein. Each time I was running a mere 3500 calories, but very high in protein (400g+) and the anabolism and recovery was fantastic - my farts were also room-clearing as well.

The other issue could be that you had underdosed UG gear.
 
Sorry its been a very long day and could not get on here to reply.
exactly, yeah a lot of these younger guys dont eat enough.. they dont have enough money or eat what their baby boomer parents keep around the house, which is mostly processed and fatty junk.

I really hope you don't put me into that category. I hate coming onto these forums and post some questions trying to learn and just because I tell my stats I'm automatically put into a group. A group of kids that are just looking for the easy way out and haven't put in the time. So I will help you exclude me fromt that group. Yeah I'm 25y 5'7 154lbs 14% bf , but I got a good job and have worked my way up to make over six figures a year have 3 cars and a nice size boat payed for by me. I have been working out for over 6 years and had double carpal tunnel surgery 1 year ago. I was a little over 160lb and dropped down to 145lb after not being able to lift for months. I have been back in the gym and dieting to the best of my knowledge. I feel I have physically hit a wall with what I know and what I can actually eat in a day without hindering my work day. So this is why I came on here researching and finally doing my first cycle. I started at 20mg just to see how it would effect me and was kind of nervous. And I'll get that diet up asap. And I am really not trying to be a dick and have no hard feelings for anybody on here just need some guidance from you old guys!! haha
 
Sorry its been a very long day and could not get on here to reply.


I really hope you don't put me into that category. I hate coming onto these forums and post some questions trying to learn and just because I tell my stats I'm automatically put into a group. A group of kids that are just looking for the easy way out and haven't put in the time. So I will help you exclude me fromt that group. Yeah I'm 25y 5'7 154lbs 14% bf , but I got a good job and have worked my way up to make over six figures a year have 3 cars and a nice size boat payed for by me. I have been working out for over 6 years and had double carpal tunnel surgery 1 year ago. I was a little over 160lb and dropped down to 145lb after not being able to lift for months. I have been back in the gym and dieting to the best of my knowledge. I feel I have physically hit a wall with what I know and what I can actually eat in a day without hindering my work day. So this is why I came on here researching and finally doing my first cycle. I started at 20mg just to see how it would effect me and was kind of nervous. And I'll get that diet up asap. And I am really not trying to be a dick and have no hard feelings for anybody on here just need some guidance from you old guys!! haha

Dont sweat it man!
 
HEy bro thats the name of the game....you tried something... it didnt work the way you hoped. NOw you take that and next time you try something else. Thats why if you make a poll for the best oral you would get 6 different answers. You make your own decision as to wether to try it again with higher doses or if you want to go a diferent direction all together. I, and many others here, find it hard to beat test only for your first "real" cycle. Goodluck!
 
Live and learn might be the answer in this case.

Wait a few months and try again. Run a new tbol cycle of 50 to 60mg for 4 weeks and see how you get on. Like d_rson stated tbol looses effect on the body after 4 weeks for most people. He stated a 3-4lbs gain each week which I would agree with. My last tbol cycle was 60mgs for 4 weeks and I gained 13 pounds and kept 10. Also it was pointed out that you may of had some bad UG gear so who knows.

Hope this helps, good luck


Harry
 
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