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Hey guys, here are the before and after pictures from using Dermatherm. I went through 2 bottles of Dermatherm in 4 weeks. I"m really happy with the results that I got from using this product!! Let me know what you think...

ironclaw
 
wow in only 4 wks huh...amazing results...sold me tell u that....

so did u get cut up and have a mid life crisis...dyed your hair and got a Tat...lol

But seriously....You look good!!
 
Damn, bro...nice work!!

I'm on day 3 of dermatherm. Gonna run it for 4 or 5 weeks. The only thing messing it up is that I have a camping trip in Oregon planned on week 3 and camping and dieting are usually not a good mix for me.

R1
 
LftHndPwrHouse said:
wow in only 4 wks huh...amazing results...sold me tell u that....

so did u get cut up and have a mid life crisis...dyed your hair and got a Tat...lol

But seriously....You look good!!
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lol
 
LftHndPwrHouse said:
wow in only 4 wks huh...amazing results...sold me tell u that....

so did u get cut up and have a mid life crisis...dyed your hair and got a Tat...lol

But seriously....You look good!!
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thanks bro, yeah I decided to die my hair blond on a dare from a friend, and the tattoo was kind of a spur of the moment, I'm getting another one sometime next week. Life's too short to hold back on anything....just do it, fuck it....
 
let's see the hair on the back of your head in the 2nd pic. looks like a buzz cut. If it is, dermatherm might want to market to the hair loss market lol
 
ironclaw said:
Hey guys, here are the before and after pictures from using Dermatherm. I went through 2 bottles of Dermatherm in 4 weeks. I"m really happy with the results that I got from using this product!! Let me know what you think...

ironclaw
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how much cardio did you increase? How did your diet change?
 
I'll post them up for non-plats if it is ok with ironclaw.

R1
 
ok not to be a dick or anything but, can u honestly say u got that way from the dermatherm? thats a hellva change and tbh that looks like tren at work.
 
Wow, Im actually impressed. DermaTherm or not that is some great cutting in only 4 weeks.

I see the most difference on the back shot … love handles are just about gone on the after pic… very nice.

-Pp
 
didnt you hand some of this out to test subjects? were they all ON? i wouldnt mind givin it a run when i come OFF to see if i can get down lower into single digit
 
mrwhiterightsnow said:
funny my nay saying comments keep getting deleted, as if this thread were being monitored for destructive comments toward the product
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The only comment I've seen you make in this thread was completely pointless, they likely got deleted to hide your sheer uselessness. :)
 
Also, for those who are saying it's not the same person, they have the exact same posture and physical structure. The guy did not transform, he lost like 10-12lbs of fat. For those who think that takes trenbolone and other drugs, you shouldn't be using anything because you have no handle on what you SHOULD be doing to your body. 12lbs of fat and a tan will change a person's image, and it's not incredibly difficult to drop 12lbs and APPEAR thicker.

Besides Ironclaw (BTW good job bro), everyone else in this posts is making me feel like this is a board full of noobs. :(
 
Is it just me or does it seem as though this stuff works better for the people with the company logo in their signature?

Congrats on your cutting cycle IronClaw.
 
Tattoo looks like little too old and faded to be something done within the month. At that point in time, it would still be DARK black and shiny. Just sayin'.... Could be the same guy, looks similar to me, but it might not be over 4 weeks.
 
dude (used2juice)im not sure what u are saying here but if u are saying that trenbolone wont change your body like that in 4-6 weeks then u shouldnt be useing anabolic androgenic steroids.
 
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cboogsrun said:
how much cardio did you increase? How did your diet change?
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I would do 20 minutes of cardio about 4 times per week, and I stuck to a strick diet for the entire time. Under 2000 cals per day, high protein, low carbs for 4 days, then high carb day..
 
cipherking said:
dude (used2juice)im not sure what u are saying here but if u are saying that trenbolone wont change your body like that in 4-6 weeks then u shouldnt be useing anabolic androgenic steroids.
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Read my post and you won't have a difficult time understanding what I'm saying. :) You don't need tren to lose 12lbs and look lean.
 
cipherking said:
ok not to be a dick or anything but, can u honestly say u got that way from the dermatherm? thats a hellva change and tbh that looks like trenbolone at work.
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bro, I never hid the fact that I was on a heavy cutting cycle, :
1 gram of omnas ew
600 mg eq ew
400 mg tren ew
50 mg winny ed
clen and eca 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
strict diet and cardio

The pictures were taken about 1 week before I started the Dermatherm, and the after pics were taken about 5 days after the Derma ran out. So , there's about a 5 1/2 to 6 week time period in there actually. I said I ran the dermatherm for 4 weeks, the diet acutally started 1 week before I got the product. I know how my body responds to which aas and diet and cardio, so I can honesstly tell you Dermatherm had a lot to do with the results I got in that time period.
 
the_clockwork said:
not even same person
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yes , I look different, but that is my fat ass in the b4 pics, I spent a lot of time working outside , that's why I"m so tan, and the tat is new and the hair. so believe it or not, I could care less, because I'm happy with the results.
 
Mr.01 said:
Hmm, you're the only one who think that on this thread, and we're the NOOBS? How much are they paying you? This sites a joke, if your product works cool, if not don't try to lie to get it to sell.

AFstore.com 's YES product works much much better (and I WASNT paid to say this)
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Maybe I'm the only one with at least half a brain, not sure. As for how much I'm being paid, I'll refer you back to the half a brain comment. Next, if the site is a joke, then get off it and spare yourself.

As for your AFstore comment, at what point did you use DermaTherm to compare your results accurately? Or were you just talking out your ass...again? I LOVE yohimburn, I've used it and will plug that any day of the week. But just because it works doesn't mean it's the only fat burner that's allowed to work, that's a bit retarded.
 
used2juice said:
Also, for those who are saying it's not the same person, they have the exact same posture and physical structure. The guy did not transform, he lost like 10-12lbs of fat. For those who think that takes trenbolone and other drugs, you shouldn't be using anything because you have no handle on what you SHOULD be doing to your body. 12lbs of fat and a tan will change a person's image, and it's not incredibly difficult to drop 12lbs and APPEAR thicker.

Besides Ironclaw (BTW good job bro), everyone else in this posts is making me feel like this is a board full of noobs. :(
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thanks for the support bro...
 
ironclaw said:
thanks for the support bro...
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No problem, I think these other guys have given you the greatest compliment. You managed to look so much better that you don't even look like you anymore lol.
 
I"d be happy to post up my diet and anything else someone wants to know about how I did this in 5 1/2 -6 weeks.

Diet: breakfast: protein shake, 4 eggs, (2 yolks), 1/2 bagel with peanut butter
meal 2: lean body shake
meal 3: chicken breast, or chicken tacos, fish, or lean beef with vegetables
meal 4: lean body shake
workout: before take various supplements, creatine, glutamine, aminos, etc
meal 5: post workout shake with 20 grams of carbs, and other supplements
meal 6: steak, or chicken, or hamburger, or bison meat with 50 g carbs
meal 7: protein shake before bed

workouts: I workout every day until I feel like I need a day off, which is usually every 10 days. 4 days of cardio for 20 minutes after working out, workouts usually last from 1 1/2 hrs. to 2 hrs each day, depending on body parts worked.

the clen and eca reallly helped and worked in synergy with the Dermatherm.

I burn a lot of calories at work, so leaning up is not hard for me when I stick to a strict diet and take other various supplements along with aas. I have a fast metablolism to begin with. any other questions just pm me or email me at [email protected]. thanks for all the supportive comments....
 
ironclaw said:
bro, I never hid the fact that I was on a heavy cutting cycle, :
1 gram of omnas ew
600 mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ew
400 mg trenbolone ew
50 mg Winstrol - stanozolol ed
Clenbuterol and eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
strict diet and cardio

The pictures were taken about 1 week before I started the Dermatherm, and the after pics were taken about 5 days after the Derma ran out. So , there's about a 5 1/2 to 6 week time period in there actually. I said I ran the dermatherm for 4 weeks, the diet acutally started 1 week before I got the product. I know how my body responds to which anabolic androgenic steroids and diet and cardio, so I can honesstly tell you Dermatherm had a lot to do with the results I got in that time period.
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The title of you the thread is a little misleading I would say dermatherm has had very little to do with your change in appearance compared to the 2.5 grams of gear you had a week
 
ironclaw said:
I would do 20 minutes of cardio about 4 times per week, and I stuck to a strick diet for the entire time. Under 2000 cals per day, high protein, low carbs for 4 days, then high carb day..
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If this is true, than I find it plausable to do in 4 weeks what would take 8. However, don't think it was the therm that was responsible. If he actually does what he said, it was the determination and discipline that lost that weight.

Congratulations bro, you look solid.
 
Does anybody notice the guy that just joined TODAY and is attacking Ironclaws results and bumping AF products? :good:

Worldclass,

The guy has the Dermatherm banner in his signature because he is a tester. I gave him free product in exchange for him to keep up the banner and post a log. Otherwise he has no initiative to say good things, and if he didn’t think the product worked he could tell it as it way. Talk to other testers such as gjohnson, or bluetwistedsteel who are both very respected guys on this board. They also noticed great results from the product.

For those that want to read results from non-AAS users, check out this thread
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-forum/derma-therm-testers-134252814.html

(One guy was using a light dose of anavar I believe)

I don’t think DermaTherm is totally responsible for the transformation but its certainly a large part of it…

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Does anybody notice the guy that just joined TODAY and is attacking Ironclaws results and bumping AF products? :good:

Worldclass,

The guy has the Dermatherm banner in his signature because he is a tester. I gave him free product in exchange for him to keep up the banner and post a log. Otherwise he has no initiative to say good things, and if he didn’t think the product worked he could tell it as it way. Talk to other testers such as gjohnson, or bluetwistedsteel who are both very respected guys on this board. They also noticed great results from the product.

For those that want to read results from non-anabolic androgenic steroids users, check out this thread
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-forum/derma-therm-testers-134252814.html

(One guy was using a light dose of anavar I believe)

I don’t think DermaTherm is totally responsible for the transformation but its certainly a large part of it…

-Pp
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2.5 grams of gear per week a good diet and cardio is what gave him that 6 week transformation, Dermatherm may have played a very small part but thats about it.
Dont get me wrong im not saying your product doesnt work it probably does, but dont expect us to believe dermatherm is one of the major reasons for the change.
 
rg78 said:
2.5 grams of gear per week a good diet and cardio is what gave him that 6 week transformation, Dermatherm may have played a very small part but thats about it.
Dont get me wrong im not saying your product doesnt work it probably does, but dont expect us to believe dermatherm is one of the major reasons for the change.
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Ah, then what do you guys need to believe a product works? A six page “special add report” with a paid IFBB pro endorsing the product? :)

I trust that Ironclaw knows his body well enough to know what AAS’s will do for him and what they wont do. From what I understand, he ran these same drugs in the past and has never reached this same point of leanness until he added the Dermatherm so I think that counts for something. Either way, I think its silly to argue about what % results came from what. Ironclaw is just a ground floor dude who had some great results and felt the product helped – thats it. We really arnt trying to pull the curtain over anything.

-Pp
 
ironclaw said:
bro, I never hid the fact that I was on a heavy cutting cycle, :.......
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this is what you said in your post:

"Hey guys, here are the before and after pictures from using Dermatherm."

you didnt say "...from Dermatherm and 1.3 grams of juice EW." big difference.
 
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used2juice said:
Read my post and you won't have a difficult time understanding what I'm saying. :) You don't need trenbolone to lose 12lbs and look lean.
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I did read your post and if it wasnt an run on sentance maybe i could understand it thats why i asked. I wasnt sure how u ment what u said. I know u dont need AAS to lose 12lbs. what i was saying was i thought it might be other stuff he was taking in conjuction with the dermatherm. I swear I seen he was taking other stuff. Its a better way to judge how it worked if u use it without anything else. Thats why im going to try it myself.
 
ironclaw said:
bro, I never hid the fact that I was on a heavy cutting cycle, :
1 gram of omnas ew
600 mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ew
400 mg trenbolone ew
50 mg Winstrol - stanozolol ed
Clenbuterol and eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
strict diet and cardio

The pictures were taken about 1 week before I started the Dermatherm, and the after pics were taken about 5 days after the Derma ran out. So , there's about a 5 1/2 to 6 week time period in there actually. I said I ran the dermatherm for 4 weeks, the diet acutally started 1 week before I got the product. I know how my body responds to which anabolic androgenic steroids and diet and cardio, so I can honesstly tell you Dermatherm had a lot to do with the results I got in that time period.
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ok, i trust what u say bro. im going to try dermatherm with my anavar. what ever u used you look great and thats all that matters. just dont want to get misleaded you know.
 
I haven't tried dermatherm, I'm sure it does what it's supposed to do... to what extent, I can't say for sure... the problem with alot of these "supplement" testers, and not just with dermatherm but any other supplement that comes out here, is that they run it with all kinds of other supplements as well as gear. You can't determine the exact effectiveness of that particular product this way. Too many variables. You have to run it alone. I've seen people do this with test-boosting products as well... how do you know which one does what if you don't run them separately?
 
clen and eca with it? Man I was really pulling for you bro. Ah fuckit, I already ordered some and sustain. I like the effects of the regular dermacrine. So I'd continue to buy their products. I'm glad their prices dropped.
 
Mavafanculo said:
this is what you said in your post:

"Hey guys, here are the before and after pictures from using Dermatherm."

you didnt say "...from Dermatherm and 1.3 grams of juice EW." big difference.
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If you would have read my 3 progress threads from before, you would see that I never hid the fact that of what I was using when it came to aas, and I also listed my diet, the whole nine yards bro. I never claimed Dermatherm was 100% responsibe for my results either, but it played a good part in the transformation.
 
clen and eca would most likley give those kinda results in 5-8 weeks alone.

throw in 500-1 gram of sauce a week to ward of catabolism and overtraining...
 
ironclaw said:
If you would have read my 3 progress threads from before, you would see that I never hid the fact that of what I was using when it came to anabolic androgenic steroids, and I also listed my diet, the whole nine yards bro. I never claimed Dermatherm was 100% responsibe for my results either, but it played a good part in the transformation.
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awesome job! great transformation! complete f ucking b ulls hit that derma whatever the hell it is had anything to do with it. but seriously, awesome job. over 2g of gear a week will have that effect.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Sorry guys… but this is what happens when you use The Most Powerful Fatburner in The World.
:rainbow:
-Pp
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sorry guy, not everybody is clueless. why not have someone on no gear do a 4 to 6 week run and post the real results? till then, with my experience, i know what 2g of gear does and that is what made the results happen here. still, very good job to the poster.
 
timtim said:
sorry guy, not everybody is clueless. why not have someone on no gear do a 4 to 6 week run and post the real results? till then, with my experience, i know what 2g of gear does and that is what made the results happen here. still, very good job to the poster.
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Timtim,

Again, here is a log with guys not on AAS –

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-forum/derma-therm-testers-134252814.html

Still, its tough to find a diligent tester that is actually willing to take before and after pics and post them. They all promise to do it if you ship them a bottle of product but it rarely happens.

How about this -- If a non-AAS user is willing to actually post up a reliable 4-6 week log, use the product everyday, and bust his ass on training and strict diet for us, we would gladly take the offer.

-Pp
 
I'm doing before/after, Eric and I'm not on any gear other than HRT levels of Test (100mg/week) and HCG. I already got my 2 bottles of Dermatherm. Started last week. Took a pic and measurements last week.

R1
 
r1 said:
I'm doing before/after, Eric and I'm not on any gear other than HRT levels of Test (100mg/week) and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I already got my 2 bottles of Dermatherm. Started last week. Took a pic and measurements last week.

R1
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Thats awesome bro.

Are you keeping track of calories and macronutrients?

-Pp
 
My daily log has:

1. Date
2. How much I weigh
3. % BF via Tanita scale...not the greatest, but ok for relative comparison.
4. How much I slept
5. What I ate (meals 1-6). I haven't broken this down to total calories and macronutrients for all of them, but most of them I have.
6. What I did that day (weights Mon, Wed, Fri; cardio Tue, Thur, Sat; rest on Sunday)
7. Quick note on how I felt

On day 1 of taking the Dermatherm, I recorded:
1. Waist size
2. Arm size (bicep flexed, tricep flexed, forearm flexed)
3. Quad size
4. Calf size

I also took a pic.

I'll repeat the above on day 28 or day 35.

R1
 
hey PP and anyone else that has used dermatherm. ive notice that alot of guys got tan using it also redness. well being dark skinned(im a black dude) will i notice any of this? i dont need to get any darker.lol
 
cipherking said:
hey PP and anyone else that has used dermatherm. ive notice that alot of guys got tan using it also redness. well being dark skinned(im a black dude) will i notice any of this? i dont need to get any darker.lol
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Hmm... well you might get a little more color in your skin....

-Pp
 
r1 said:
I'm doing before/after, Eric and I'm not on any gear other than HRT levels of Test (100mg/week) and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I already got my 2 bottles of Dermatherm. Started last week. Took a pic and measurements last week.

R1
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any update?



:freak:
 
The transformation kinda look like one of those ads on magazines, but this is real...glad to see great American quality products.
 
ironclaw said:
If you would have read my 3 progress threads from before, you would see that I never hid the fact that of what I was using when it came to anabolic androgenic steroids, and I also listed my diet, the whole nine yards bro. I never claimed Dermatherm was 100% responsibe for my results either, but it played a good part in the transformation.
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Did the smell ever go away once you put it on? Did people ever say you smelled of cinnamon?
 
rg78 said:
2.5 grams of gear per week a good diet and cardio is what gave him that 6 week transformation, Dermatherm may have played a very small part but thats about it.
Dont get me wrong im not saying your product doesnt work it probably does, but dont expect us to believe dermatherm is one of the major reasons for the change.
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Agreed.
 
errn247 said:
Did the smell ever go away once you put it on? Did people ever say you smelled of cinnamon?
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The cinnamon smell goes away within an hour or two.

Ive personally never had anyone comment on the smell when I use it, and from the feedback we’ve gotten its not a problem for anyone else either.

-Pp
 
I have some and stopped using it because my girl told me it was strong even a few hours later. i will be on night shift here real soon so i will test out the smell when she is at work and we miss each other before i go in just to see if the smell eases.
 
errn247 said:
I have some and stopped using it because my girl told me it was strong even a few hours later. i will be on night shift here real soon so i will test out the smell when she is at work and we miss each other before i go in just to see if the smell eases.
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Rubbing it in and spreading it out as much as possible will reduce the amount of time it takes to absorb, dry and make the cinnamon smell go away.

-Pp
 
njmuscleguy said:
I haven't tried dermatherm, I'm sure it does what it's supposed to do... to what extent, I can't say for sure... the problem with alot of these "supplement" testers, and not just with dermatherm but any other supplement that comes out here, is that they run it with all kinds of other supplements as well as gear. You can't determine the exact effectiveness of that particular product this way. Too many variables. You have to run it alone. I've seen people do this with test-boosting products as well... how do you know which one does what if you don't run them separately?
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agreed
 
Keep in mind that at 1 gram test weekly (if I read that right), he would have some major bloat going on, even with a good diet. I don't even know pros how use that much test when contest prepping. So it certainly kept the water off.
 
Guys,

The original DermaTherm is on clearance special for only $29.95

We are removing the 7-keto DHEA from DermaTherm and reformulating it with a higher theophyline content for a more targeted action.

If you want a bottle of the original DermaTherm with 7-keto DHEA now is your chance at this special clearance price.

-Eric
 
Primordial Performance said:
Guys,

The original DermaTherm is on clearance special for only $29.95

We are removing the 7-keto DHEA from DermaTherm and reformulating it with a higher theophyline content for a more targeted action.

If you want a bottle of the original DermaTherm with 7-keto DHEA now is your chance at this special clearance price.

-Eric
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Well that is a good deal hell ya. Bro I am going to send you a pm. I want to get a few bottles of this.
 
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