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Dogbreath said:
I also take daily:
3000 mg fish oil
4000 mg vitamin C
Liver support with tudca and milk thistle
Red yeast rice 1200 mg
Saw palmetto 1000 mg & beta sistosterol 1000 mg s.
Mega mens multi vitamin.
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this is good but increasing fish oil is good to 10 grams
and why take multiple supps for liver and multi? you should get n2guard bro @Dogbreath , you need more than just tudca and mt with multis and n2guard is made for cycles and they support EF family :)
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Dogbreath said:
I also take daily:
3000 mg fish oil
4000 mg vitamin C
Liver support with tudca and milk thistle
Red yeast rice 1200 mg
Saw palmetto 1000 mg & beta sistosterol 1000 mg s.
Mega mens multi vitamin.
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nice list man. tudca is a nice addition and n2guard has all of that
 
Dogbreath said:
I also take daily:
3000 mg fish oil
4000 mg vitamin C
Liver support with tudca and milk thistle
Red yeast rice 1200 mg
Saw palmetto 1000 mg & beta sistosterol 1000 mg s.
Mega mens multi vitamin.
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2000mg oil for me

No need to go over 600mg VitC IMO
 
n2guard is more effective then all those liver supps
it has 7 of them in the same formula
 
gym time 40 minutes not bad
you handle your business and you're out
 
The problem I have with those all in ones is if you actually read the label and see the amount of each thing they stuff into it. It's minimal. How much do you think is going to fit in a capsule? Jack you get Jack. You get a lot of ingredients but hardly any of it. A serving is 7 capsules. Then read the label and see what you get in one serving. Spending a lot of money to take a lot of caps with a lot of ingredients but actually getting very little. I want mg's not mcg's 50 mcg's of this, 500 mcg's of that? I want 1000 mgs of this and 2000 mgs of that. I would have to take 15 or more N2 guards to get close what I take. I prefer a liver guard with at the very least tudca at 500 mg and milk thistle 300 mg etc... I get good deals on supps Or I wait until I can get a good deal. I also don't spend Jack on gear. I have a buddy that used to sell peptides and sarms and gear. He would get them from pharmaceutical manufacturing companies in china for cheap. And was making $1000- $1200 on every $100 he spent. He was spending $500 - $1000 each time he ordered. I use those same companies now. I just got 10 15 mg vials of Tirzepatide for $128 shipped Domestic from one of his Chinese manufacturers. I can sell those for $185 each all day. I also got a box of Ipamorelin 5 mg. A box is 10 vials. For $40 + $20 shipping $60 (domestic wearhouse) total. I get Test cyp 250 10 ml $11 Masteron 200 $30 vial. The gear ships from China. Have not been disappointed with quality as of yet. I have 10 Chinese manufacturers on Whatsapp that I can connect with and order within minutes. Some ship from China others have US wearhouses. So you talk to a Chinese lady in china, put in the order & pay. Then she sends the order to the US warehouse for shipping. Took 5 days to receive. I thought I would give PSL a try ordered two vials on Oct 29 and I just got an email saying it will be here on Wed Nov 13 ??? That's 16 days a half of a month for domestic? It's says domestic 3-4 days. But then when I inquired why hasn't my order moved. They sent me a message saying read the fine print. We don't have to send you Jack until 6 days after we get your money. Weekends & holidays don't count. It should say domestic shipping 12 -15, days not 3-4 that's false advertising folks. That's not good business, It's just unacceptable in my book. Needless to say that was probably my first & last purchase from PSL.
Today is leg day:
4 sets leg extensions until failure
4 sets leg curls until failure
4 sets 20 cable squats.
4 sets standing calf raises until failure.
3 sets seated calf raises until failure.
35 mins total.
 
Unless I'm taking a very potent substance where mcg doses would make sense. I'll always opt for mg's over micrograms. It takes 1,000 mcg's to make just 1 mg. If you look at the labels on some of these all in one formulas. They have 250 mcg per serving or 500 mcg. That is only 1/4 & 1/2 of a mg per serving. I would rather have 500-1200 mg per serving in one or two caps. There was this father and son bull standing on a hill top. They are looking down at all of the cows in the field at the bottom of the hill. The younger bull says "dad let run down there and fuck one of those cows". The father bull said why don't we just walk down there and fuck them all? I heard this when I was a kid, and it stuck ever since.
 
Today's meal plan:
MasonicBodybuilder said:
Looks good. I would say TUDCA and NAC are super important for liver health.
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I agree TUDCA and NAC are good. Gear is in mg's. I want my protection to be in mg's as well. Micrograms to protect against milligrams isn't a fair fight.
 

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Dogbreath said:
I also take daily:
3000 mg fish oil
4000 mg vitamin C
Liver support with tudca and milk thistle
Red yeast rice 1200 mg
Saw palmetto 1000 mg & beta sistosterol 1000 mg s.
Mega mens multi vitamin.
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@Dogbreath make sure you have N2guard on hand!
 
Logging has helped me grkw physically and mentally plus the encouraging community helps alot, imo it is worth it, if you dont have time you dont have time nothing wrong with that.
 
Dogbreath said:
The problem I have with those all in ones is if you actually read the label and see the amount of each thing they stuff into it. It's minimal. How much do you think is going to fit in a capsule? Jack you get Jack. You get a lot of ingredients but hardly any of it. A serving is 7 capsules. Then read the label and see what you get in one serving. Spending a lot of money to take a lot of caps with a lot of ingredients but actually getting very little. I want mg's not mcg's 50 mcg's of this, 500 mcg's of that? I want 1000 mgs of this and 2000 mgs of that. I would have to take 15 or more N2 guards to get close what I take. I prefer a liver guard with at the very least tudca at 500 mg and milk thistle 300 mg etc... I get good deals on supps Or I wait until I can get a good deal. I also don't spend Jack on gear. I have a buddy that used to sell peptides and sarms and gear. He would get them from pharmaceutical manufacturing companies in china for cheap. And was making $1000- $1200 on every $100 he spent. He was spending $500 - $1000 each time he ordered. I use those same companies now. I just got 10 15 mg vials of Tirzepatide for $128 shipped Domestic from one of his Chinese manufacturers. I can sell those for $185 each all day. I also got a box of Ipamorelin 5 mg. A box is 10 vials. For $40 + $20 shipping $60 (domestic wearhouse) total. I get Test cyp 250 10 ml $11 Masteron 200 $30 vial. The gear ships from China. Have not been disappointed with quality as of yet. I have 10 Chinese manufacturers on Whatsapp that I can connect with and order within minutes. Some ship from China others have US wearhouses. So you talk to a Chinese lady in china, put in the order & pay. Then she sends the order to the US warehouse for shipping. Took 5 days to receive. I thought I would give PSL a try ordered two vials on Oct 29 and I just got an email saying it will be here on Wed Nov 13 ??? That's 16 days a half of a month for domestic? It's says domestic 3-4 days. But then when I inquired why hasn't my order moved. They sent me a message saying read the fine print. We don't have to send you Jack until 6 days after we get your money. Weekends & holidays don't count. It should say domestic shipping 12 -15, days not 3-4 that's false advertising folks. That's not good business, It's just unacceptable in my book. Needless to say that was probably my first & last purchase from PSL.
Today is leg day:
4 sets leg extensions until failure
4 sets leg curls until failure
4 sets 20 cable squats.
4 sets standing calf raises until failure.
3 sets seated calf raises until failure.
35 mins total.
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@Dogbreath if you're talking about n2guard they have 7 caps doses so thats a high mgs per cap but thats up to you, just a suggest, they also support the EF family so positive to support n2bm bro :)

overall i would say sweet.
on the PSL situation, did you put in a support ticket with them?
small issues happen, I want to apologize to you bro even though I dont know whats up, I think 99% of the time PSL is gold but sometimes can fall thru cracks large company right
@~Vision~ please check this and comment

btw i like your leg day, you doing till failure at what weight can you share?
 
I definitely like n2guard 44 ingredients in 7 caps cant beat it.
 
the_alcatraz said:
@Dogbreath if you're talking about n2guard they have 7 caps doses so thats a high mgs per cap but thats up to you, just a suggest, they also support the EF family so positive to support n2bm bro :)

overall i would say sweet.
on the PSL situation, did you put in a support ticket with them?
small issues happen, I want to apologize to you bro even though I dont know whats up, I think 99% of the time PSL is gold but sometimes can fall thru cracks large company right
@~Vision~ please check this and comment

btw i like your leg day, you doing till failure at what weight can you share?
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If you look at the N2 Guard label. That's what you get per 7 caps. That's not what you get in one cap. To me it's minimal amounts for all of those caps, and the price on top of it. I'm very frugal with my hard earned money. And I have this thing about getting the best & most for my buck. I always do a lot of research. I like getting more than I'm paying for, whenever I can. I want the most caps, the highest dosed, the least amount of caps to take. The most caps etc.. I find buying a high mg 90 day supply of Tudca, Milk thistle & NAC gives me a lot more mg per serving than those all in one formulas do. But then again opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. I've always done my own thing. Like I said in the start of this thread. You have cows that follow and do what all of the other cows do, one lies down all of the others lie down. One walks across the pasture. They all walk across the pasture. Then you look at the other pasture and there is this one bull all by himself, just doing his own thing. I'm pretty sure I'm the bull. And have always been. since I was a kid. My football coach used to always tell me "Hey Grelle, there ain't no I in team". So I was thinking what sport has an I in it ? WEIGHTS & BODYBUILDING does. That is going to be my new sport, sweet!! It's all about I. Me, myself and I. Just how I like it. I really enjoy being alone. I don't need people for stimulation. I keep busy, have a lot of hobbies, work, a wife of 35 years and three grown kids. People just don't interest me. Part of it is, you need to deal with what people like and don't like. You have to deal with their moods, feelings etc... I'm just into my own thing. What I like & want to do, my goals. I do light weight squats 245. I have a slip disc issue in my back have to be very careful with squats don't do them very often.
 
I would love to help this customer but if they could keep this down to minimum and explain this much better and smaller detail, I will do everything I can to the best of my ability to assist where I can
 
~Vision~ said:
I would love to help this customer but if they could keep this down to minimum and explain this much better and smaller detail, I will do everything I can to the best of my ability to assist where I can
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@~Vision~ here is what I saw from @Dogbreath above

Dogbreath

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The problem I have with those all in ones is if you actually read the label and see the amount of each thing they stuff into it. It's minimal. How much do you think is going to fit in a capsule? Jack you get Jack. You get a lot of ingredients but hardly any of it. A serving is 7 capsules. Then read the label and see what you get in one serving. Spending a lot of money to take a lot of caps with a lot of ingredients but actually getting very little. I want mg's not mcg's 50 mcg's of this, 500 mcg's of that? I want 1000 mgs of this and 2000 mgs of that. I would have to take 15 or more N2...
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Dogbreath said:
I thought I would give PSL a try ordered two vials on Oct 29 and I just got an email saying it will be here on Wed Nov 13 ??? That's 16 days a half of a month for domestic? It's says domestic 3-4 days. But then when I inquired why hasn't my order moved. They sent me a message saying read the fine print. We don't have to send you Jack until 6 days after we get your money. Weekends & holidays don't count. It should say domestic shipping 12 -15, days not 3-4 that's false advertising folks. That's not good business, It's just unacceptable in my book. Needless to say that was probably my first & last purchase from PSL.
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He said he didn't get his domestic PSL order on time. I suspect just talking about it there was a payment issue. Because my PSL gear arrives in days, like 5-6 general domestic.
 
Dogbreath said:
If you look at the N2 Guard label. That's what you get per 7 caps. That's not what you get in one cap. To me it's minimal amounts for all of those caps, and the price on top of it. I'm very frugal with my hard earned money. And I have this thing about getting the best & most for my buck. I always do a lot of research. I like getting more than I'm paying for, whenever I can. I want the most caps, the highest dosed, the least amount of caps to take. The most caps etc.. I find buying a high mg 90 day supply of Tudca, Milk thistle & NAC gives me a lot more mg per serving than those all in one formulas do. But then again opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. I've always done my own thing. Like I said in the start of this thread. You have cows that follow and do what all of the other cows do, one lies down all of the others lie down. One walks across the pasture. They all walk across the pasture. Then you look at the other pasture and there is this one bull all by himself, just doing his own thing. I'm pretty sure I'm the bull. And have always been. since I was a kid. My football coach used to always tell me "Hey Grelle, there ain't no I in team". So I was thinking what sport has an I in it ? WEIGHTS & BODYBUILDING does. That is going to be my new sport, sweet!! It's all about I. Me, myself and I. Just how I like it. I really enjoy being alone. I don't need people for stimulation. I keep busy, have a lot of hobbies, work, a wife of 35 years and three grown kids. People just don't interest me. Part of it is, you need to deal with what people like and don't like. You have to deal with their moods, feelings etc... I'm just into my own thing. What I like & want to do, my goals. I do light weight squats 245. I have a slip disc issue in my back have to be very careful with squats don't do them very often.
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@Dogbreath sure if you buy in bulk you can do it that way no issues, all up to you bro :) we support you in the EF family no matter how you play it
 
the_alcatraz said:
@~Vision~ here is what I saw from @Dogbreath above

Dogbreath

Approved Log Post in thread 'TRT Training and cycles log'

The problem I have with those all in ones is if you actually read the label and see the amount of each thing they stuff into it. It's minimal. How much do you think is going to fit in a capsule? Jack you get Jack. You get a lot of ingredients but hardly any of it. A serving is 7 capsules. Then read the label and see what you get in one serving. Spending a lot of money to take a lot of caps with a lot of ingredients but actually getting very little. I want mg's not mcg's 50 mcg's of this, 500 mcg's of that? I want 1000 mgs of this and 2000 mgs of that. I would have to take 15 or more N2...
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He said he didn't get his domestic PSL order on time. I suspect just talking about it there was a payment issue. Because my PSL gear arrives in days, like 5-6 general domestic.
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It's still kind of hard to figure out, but in the terms and conditions it says we reserve the right to ship the order up to 6 days after we collect the finances, however depending on the type of finances he sent, as we all know historically recently if he use Bitcoin that could have been a problem due to the delays, furthermore depending on the type of payment method that he used, I'm going to use Bitcoin as an example. Some people who use Bitcoin do not jump on and utilize the option with send it right away That means it takes quite a long time for it to go through these long tedious processes.. If it took someone 6 days to receive items locally that's not entirely terrible but there's a process to this. And that's actually sorting out the payment method..
 
~Vision~ said:
It's still kind of hard to figure out, but in the terms and conditions it says we reserve the right to ship the order up to 6 days after we collect the finances, however depending on the type of finances he sent, as we all know historically recently if he use Bitcoin that could have been a problem due to the delays, furthermore depending on the type of payment method that he used, I'm going to use Bitcoin as an example. Some people who use Bitcoin do not jump on and utilize the option with send it right away That means it takes quite a long time for it to go through these long tedious processes.. If it took someone 6 days to receive items locally that's not entirely terrible but there's a process to this. And that's actually sorting out the payment method..
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I payed with Western Union, I have the app. It sends me a notification the instant the money is received by the receiver. I payed in store @ 5 pm and the next morning @ 10 am I got the notification that the money was picked up and in the possession of the receiver. Then for some reason it took 14 days before I received the items. I order from China and get my order in 7-14 days. I ordered domestic because I didn't want to wait and risk customs. Then this 6 days after we have your money thing & weekends don't count etc . If you order on a Monday it might not ship until the next Tuesday. That's already 8 days wasted right there. Then the week in the mail. It shouldn't say domestic 3-4 days. It should say domestic 8 -12 days. Good business practice is getting the consumer what they paid for asap, quick turn around. The customer should have a tracking number and know that their order is on the way within a day or two. Especially if it's a domestic order. Just my two cents take it with a grain of salt. Like I said before opinions are like assholes everybody has one. But I am happy the order finally arrived.
 
~Vision~ said:
It's still kind of hard to figure out, but in the terms and conditions it says we reserve the right to ship the order up to 6 days after we collect the finances, however depending on the type of finances he sent, as we all know historically recently if he use Bitcoin that could have been a problem due to the delays, furthermore depending on the type of payment method that he used, I'm going to use Bitcoin as an example. Some people who use Bitcoin do not jump on and utilize the option with send it right away That means it takes quite a long time for it to go through these long tedious processes.. If it took someone 6 days to receive items locally that's not entirely terrible but there's a process to this. And that's actually sorting out the payment method..
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@~Vision~ seems he got his package
Dogbreath said:
I payed with Western Union, I have the app. It sends me a notification the instant the money is received by the receiver. I payed in store @ 5 pm and the next morning @ 10 am I got the notification that the money was picked up and in the possession of the receiver. Then for some reason it took 14 days before I received the items. I order from China and get my order in 7-14 days. I ordered domestic because I didn't want to wait and risk customs. Then this 6 days after we have your money thing & weekends don't count etc . If you order on a Monday it might not ship until the next Tuesday. That's already 8 days wasted right there. Then the week in the mail. It shouldn't say domestic 3-4 days. It should say domestic 8 -12 days. Good business practice is getting the consumer what they paid for asap, quick turn around. The customer should have a tracking number and know that their order is on the way within a day or two. Especially if it's a domestic order. Just my two cents take it with a grain of salt. Like I said before opinions are like assholes everybody has one. But I am happy the order finally arrived.
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@Dogbreath since you got your order, happy to see resolved
 
Vadim Fedorov said:
what I like to do is go three sets that do a four set to failure
that seems to work really good for me
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I sometimes do three sets actually did three sets for my entire life until about a year ago. Just wanted to kick it up a notch and tear up the fibers a little more with the extra set and reps. But if I'm tired I'll still do a three set lift.
 
Today was arm day:
4 sets alternating dumbbell curls until failure last set was only 8 reps
4 sets alternating cable curls back towards machine until failure .
4 sets rope hammer curls until failure.
Tri's
4 sets behind the head standing rope extensions towards ceiling until failure.
4 sets single handle cable pushdowns per arm until failure.
4 sets reverse cable kick backs high pulley per arm until failure.
4 sets two handed triceps pushdowns until failure.
35 mins total 7 arm exercises.

Eats:
 

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Yesterday was Chest and Back.
4 sets flat bench until failure.
4 sets incline dumbbell press until failure
4 sets incline cable flys until failure
4 sets palms in cable pushes towards ceiling until failure for upper chest.
Back:
pull ups palms forward 4 sets until failure
Straight arm lat pull downs 4 sets until failure
Seated rows 4 sets until failure.
Seated close grip palms in lat pulls 4 sets until failure.
Abs:
3 sets 25 full stack rope crunches and 1 set until failure.

50 mins total workout time.
 
Dogbreath said:
I sometimes do three sets actually did three sets for my entire life until about a year ago. Just wanted to kick it up a notch and tear up the fibers a little more with the extra set and reps. But if I'm tired I'll still do a three set lift.
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legit way to train bro :)

Dogbreath said:
Today was arm day:
4 sets alternating dumbbell curls until failure last set was only 8 reps
4 sets alternating cable curls back towards machine until failure .
4 sets rope hammer curls until failure.
Tri's
4 sets behind the head standing rope extensions towards ceiling until failure.
4 sets single handle cable pushdowns per arm until failure.
4 sets reverse cable kick backs high pulley per arm until failure.
4 sets two handed triceps pushdowns until failure.
35 mins total 7 arm exercises.

Eats:
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@Dogbreath the bacon in the am is good but you ok to cut it in 1/2 and add some avocado in AM? higher healthy fats and potassium to start day

on training, hope hammers jack me up love those
you have time to finish with cardio or no go?
 
Dogbreath said:
Yesterday was Chest and Back.
4 sets flat bench until failure.
4 sets incline dumbbell press until failure
4 sets incline cable flys until failure
4 sets palms in cable pushes towards ceiling until failure for upper chest.
Back:
pull ups palms forward 4 sets until failure
Straight arm lat pull downs 4 sets until failure
Seated rows 4 sets until failure.
Seated close grip palms in lat pulls 4 sets until failure.
Abs:
3 sets 25 full stack rope crunches and 1 set until failure.

50 mins total workout time.
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chest back NICE but you train 2 big bodyparts same time, you protein shake before this? very hard to pull this off you hardcore bro :) @Dogbreath
 
the_alcatraz said:
legit way to train bro :)


@Dogbreath the bacon in the am is good but you ok to cut it in 1/2 and add some avocado in AM? higher healthy fats and potassium to start day

on training, hope hammers jack me up love those
you have time to finish with cardio or no go?
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My Cardio is sex and walking. Keeping busy moving all day. I used to run 15 miles a week after lifting. Just wasn't feeling it any longer.
 
Dogbreath said:
Been doing chest & back together for @ 10 years bro. Then arms, then shoulders & traps, then legs. And I try to hit abs three times a week.
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I usually work out fasted with pre workout or a couple of cups of coffee. 50 grams Protein shake with 5 grams creatine after my workout. Want the body to eat and use fat for energy and stored carbs. Then I'll eat breakfast an hour later.
 
the_alcatraz said:
chest back NICE but you train 2 big bodyparts same time, you protein shake before this? very hard to pull this off you hardcore bro :) @Dogbreath
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I only ate meat, eggs ,Greek yogurt and protein powder for 6 months. I felt pretty good on that diet. I like to switch it up. High protein low carb and low fat is what that was about. Slimmed down and got hard on that.
 
Dogbreath said:
I only ate meat, eggs ,Greek yogurt and protein powder for 6 months. I felt pretty good on that diet. I like to switch it up. High protein low carb and low fat is what that was about. Slimmed down and got hard on that.
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high protein low carb is key and moderate fat, you doing it perfect bro @Dogbreath
share up more the training as you hit it
i want to see you really get recomped this run :)
 
Dogbreath said:
I usually work out fasted with pre workout or a couple of cups of coffee. 50 grams Protein shake with 5 grams creatine after my workout. Want the body to eat and use fat for energy and stored carbs. Then I'll eat breakfast an hour later.
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fasted is legit good fat burn
EF family big support for you :) @Dogbreath
 
Dogbreath said:
Just ordered a box of Ipamorelin enough for 250 days at 200 mcg a day. Have not ran Ipam for a minute. It's been @ 4 years since the last run. Also just received enough Tirzepatide for 30 weeks @ 5 mg a week. Between these and the six cycles I stocked up on I should be good for a while.
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@Dogbreath Ipamorelin you feeling something from it? I didnt get jack from it honestly
 
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@Dogbreath Ipamorelin you feeling something from it? I didnt get jack from it honestly
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking before I accidentally pinned to much of it. The last time I ran it 4 years ago. Man for about an hour I was sitting down on the throne with insane GH pulses my pituitary gland was pounding and I felt high almost nauseous. Thought I was going to have to head to urgent care. Shit is potent. But if you don't OD on it and take the normal dose you don't feel much. But it's very potent and definitely works. I take it for age defying benefits. Like skin, collagen, hair, muscle and tendo repair. It's like MK in a shot. I read an article comparing the two. Very similar benefits both make the body produce GH.

MK677 vs Ipamorelin


MK677, also known as Ibuatmoren and Oratrope, is an orally active, non-peptide, selective agonist of the ghrelin receptor. MK677 shares no structural similarities with ghrelin and therefore no structural similarities with Ipamorelin. Research shows that MK677 increases the secretion of growth hormone (GH) and insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) without affecting cortisol levels. It is currently under investigation for the treatment of growth hormone deficiency, muscle wasting, bone wasting, and appetite stimulation. MK677 has a long half-life and once-daily dosing in most trial settings.

Ipamorelin is a peptide analogue of ghrelin that stimulates the secretion of GH. It is among the most selective of ghrelin analogs with research revealing no effect on ACTH, prolactin, follicle-stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, thyroid stimulating hormone, or cortisol levels. Ipamorelin has been investigated in the treatment of GH deficiency, muscle wasting, and post-surgical ileus. It has also been the subject of numerous clinical trials for its ability to increase bone strength and mineralization.
 
Dogbreath said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking before I accidentally pinned to much of it. The last time I ran it 4 years ago. Man for about an hour I was sitting down on the throne with insane GH pulses my pituitary gland was pounding and I felt high almost nauseous. Thought I was going to have to head to urgent care. Shit is potent. But if you don't OD on it and take the normal dose you don't feel much. But it's very potent and definitely works. I take it for age defying benefits. Like skin, collagen, hair, muscle and tendo repair. It's like MK in a shot. I read an article comparing the two. Very similar benefits both make the body produce GH.

MK677 vs Ipamorelin


MK677, also known as Ibuatmoren and Oratrope, is an orally active, non-peptide, selective agonist of the ghrelin receptor. MK677 shares no structural similarities with ghrelin and therefore no structural similarities with Ipamorelin. Research shows that MK677 increases the secretion of growth hormone (GH) and insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) without affecting cortisol levels. It is currently under investigation for the treatment of growth hormone deficiency, muscle wasting, bone wasting, and appetite stimulation. MK677 has a long half-life and once-daily dosing in most trial settings.

Ipamorelin is a peptide analogue of ghrelin that stimulates the secretion of GH. It is among the most selective of ghrelin analogs with research revealing no effect on ACTH, prolactin, follicle-stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, thyroid stimulating hormone, or cortisol levels. Ipamorelin has been investigated in the treatment of GH deficiency, muscle wasting, and post-surgical ileus. It has also been the subject of numerous clinical trials for its ability to increase bone strength and mineralization.
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@Dogbreath i found the ipam pulses not controllable right, not good man
also you got them from China suppliers right? the ipamorelin
 
the_alcatraz said:
@Dogbreath i found the ipam pulses not controllable right, not good man
also you got them from China suppliers right? the ipamorelin
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I got that Ipamorelin from the US. But I'm sure they probably got it from China. It was good when I did the right dosage. I had a 15 mg vial and mistook it for a 5 mg. I pinned way to much when I had the overdose issue. That's how I knew the shit was the real deal, no joke. But I didn't have any problems doing the regular 200 mcg dose. Went through 20 vials. I haven't had any issues with product purchases from China. I get products that are tested with COAs. Most of the time. The Ipam I just got this week is from China but it was sent from their US warehouse. Took 4 days to receive from Florida. I mainly take Ipam for anti aging purposes. It has a lot of other benefits, but those are just extra. The Tirzepatide is good for blood sugar and fat lose, appetite control etc ..
 
Most of the peptides, anabolics, and medications sold in the US. Come from Chinese pharmacuitical Biotech and chemical manufacturers. I got tired of getting ripped and found that if I skip the middleman and go straight to the manufacturer. I get 10 vials for what I pay for 1 vial online in the US. And its the same thing. Coming from the same place. My buddy use to sell peptides, sarms and gear. He told me to get it straight from the manufacturer. He would get the steroid powders and mix them with oils and peptides came already in vials. He put his labels on them. Sometimes they would come with labels on them already. He had to pay extra for that. Remember the Company SARMTECH? Everything they sold, 100% of their product came directly from China. Same with 80 % of the online companies. They get it from China for cheap and make a killing selling it online here in USA.
 
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I got that Ipamorelin from the US. But I'm sure they probably got it from China. It was good when I did the right dosage. I had a 15 mg vial and mistook it for a 5 mg. I pinned way to much when I had the overdose issue. That's how I knew the shit was the real deal, no joke. But I didn't have any problems doing the regular 200 mcg dose. Went through 20 vials. I haven't had any issues with product purchases from China. I get products that are tested with COAs. Most of the time. The Ipam I just got this week is from China but it was sent from their US warehouse. Took 4 days to receive from Florida. I mainly take Ipam for anti aging purposes. It has a lot of other benefits, but those are just extra. The Tirzepatide is good for blood sugar and fat lose, appetite control etc ..
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@Dogbreath China places test 1 time for show and send crazy dosed stuff, they dont care about client feedback at all as they got like millinos of bottles, had a few guys i train go almost into hypo coma using igf-1 lr3 turned out 10x the dose! after they told China supplier, just ignored
a real USA source would make adjustments after 100s of complaints, but the China guys just roll on lol
so im a bit skeptical of these guys
 
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Most of the peptides, anabolics, and medications sold in the US. Come from Chinese pharmacuitical Biotech and chemical manufacturers. I got tired of getting ripped and found that if I skip the middleman and go straight to the manufacturer. I get 10 vials for what I pay for 1 vial online in the US. And its the same thing. Coming from the same place. My buddy use to sell peptides, sarms and gear. He told me to get it straight from the manufacturer. He would get the steroid powders and mix them with oils and peptides came already in vials. He put his labels on them. Sometimes they would come with labels on them already. He had to pay extra for that. Remember the Company SARMTECH? Everything they sold, 100% of their product came directly from China. Same with 80 % of the online companies. They get it from China for cheap and make a killing selling it online here in USA.
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I think the approach is the key bro not just where they get it @Dogbreath

sarmtech I vaguely remember but they out of biz I think right
 
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I think the approach is the key bro not just where they get it @Dogbreath

sarmtech I vaguely remember but they out of biz I think right
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Yeah they got raided by the feds and got shut down had to do time and pay some fines. But I remember he was talking about his Chinese suppliers and how he triple tests the sarms he got from china before he sells them yata yata. I purchased a few sarms cycles from him and they were legit. Had some good gains. All capsules. No liquids. I remember the LGD, mk & yk were solid. I think I still have some LGD around here somewhere. I'll take a photo if I can find it.
 

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Found this SR also. This company was a big hitter for about 6 years. Had lots of good reviews. Now they are history. I remember the last year they were in business the prices more than doubled. There is that triple lab tested thing, it's even on the damn bottle.
 

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Yeah they got raided by the feds and got shut down had to do time and pay some fines. But I remember he was talking about his Chinese suppliers and how he triple tests the sarms he got from china before he sells them yata yata. I purchased a few sarms cycles from him and they were legit. Had some good gains. All capsules. No liquids. I remember the LGD, mk & yk were solid. I think I still have some LGD around here somewhere. I'll take a photo if I can find it.
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Found this SR also. This company was a big hitter for about 6 years. Had lots of good reviews. Now they are history. I remember the last year they were in business the prices more than doubled. There is that triple lab tested thing, it's even on the damn bottle.
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@Dogbreath interesting I do remember the brand but been MIA so long its past memory lol you got all the good stuff bro ;)
 
Today was leg day:
Seated leg extensions 4 sets until failure.
Leg curls 4 sets until failure
4 sets of light squats @ 245 not until failure just a good burn.
Standing calf raises 4 sets until the failure
Seated calf raises 4 sets until failure

Eats are below:

Tomorrow it starts all over again with Chest, Back & Abs.
 

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Dogbreath said:
Today was leg day:
Seated leg extensions 4 sets until failure.
Leg curls 4 sets until failure
4 sets of light squats @ 245 not until failure just a good burn.
Standing calf raises 4 sets until the failure
Seated calf raises 4 sets until failure

Eats are below:

Tomorrow it starts all over again with Chest, Back & Abs.
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@Dogbreath big leg day, very strong squat even not heavy best good volume bro :)
 
35 minute workout is not bad
you handled your business and you got in and out
 
that's cool that's your friends with a good pharmacist
I'm surprised he's being open with you about gear
 
yes it's true a lot of the stuff comes from China of course
that's pretty standard of anything it's a huge country with a lot of manufacturing
 
thanks for taking a picture of that sarmtech
didn't know that they got rated that's crazy
 
I wonder if most of their sarms was really pro hormones
is that why they got raided
 
nice job on the leg training
I like how you hit four sets and you go to failure
 
great job going into the weekend
make sure you try and get in some cardio as well this weekend and make sure you update us with some more food pictures
 
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that's cool that's your friends with a good pharmacist
I'm surprised he's being open with you about gear
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Yeah I was talking with him whenever I picked up my 12 TRT vials every 3 months. He gave me a strip of (15) 18 gauge draw needles without the syringe for free. I was telling him about the time I ran D-ball for six weeks in my twenties with 500 mg test a week. He said yeah I know about D-ball I ran it a few times myself. I was thinking he probably gets all of his gear for free and it's all legit pharma grade, being a pharmacist and all. You know he makes bank.
 
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Today was leg day:
Seated leg extensions 4 sets until failure.
Leg curls 4 sets until failure
4 sets of light squats @ 245 not until failure just a good burn.
Standing calf raises 4 sets until the failure
Seated calf raises 4 sets until failure

Eats are below:

Tomorrow it starts all over again with Chest, Back & Abs.
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Nice to see squats
 
Today was Chest and Back:
4 sets upright seated cable press with straight bar until failure.
4 sets upright seated cable flys until failure.
4 sets incline dumbbell press until failure.
4 sets incline dumbbell flys until failure.
Back:
4 sets palms out pull ups until failure.
4 sets seated rows with individual cables until failure.
4 sets standing straight arm lat pushdowns until failure.
Abs: 4 sets of 25 weighted cable crunches on knees with triceps rope.
Tyson/Paul fight sucked ass. Very disappointed. That's not the Tyson I remember. It was like watching another person. Who's the idiot that thought 10:00 pm was a good time for a fight? I need my sleeps

Eats for today:.
 

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Today's workout was 45 mins.
I have been on 100 mg Test cyp for 5 weeks.
Really feel the difference on such a low dose. In size, gains and in energy. There is a big difference between cruising on 200 mg & 100.
Going to start a 12 week cycle on Wed. Getting labs done Monday, they always suck out 5 vials. The cycle will be 250 Test, 200 Masteron and 25 mg Turinabol for 12 weeks. Dropping the Turinabol after 1 month. Might add in rad 140 once Turinabol is discontinued. Have not decided also have some var. Or I might just ride out the test and mast without an oral for the remainder. Undecided. Either way I should have some good gains.
 
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Today was Chest and Back:
4 sets upright seated cable press with straight bar until failure.
4 sets upright seated cable flys until failure.
4 sets incline dumbbell press until failure.
4 sets incline dumbbell flys until failure.
Back:
4 sets palms out pull ups until failure.
4 sets seated rows with individual cables until failure.
4 sets standing straight arm lat pushdowns until failure.
Abs: 4 sets of 25 weighted cable crunches on knees with triceps rope.
Tyson/Paul fight sucked ass. Very disappointed. That's not the Tyson I remember. It was like watching another person. Who's the idiot that thought 10:00 pm was a good time for a fight? I need my sleeps

Eats for today:.
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chest and back legit @Dogbreath HIGH volume! damn
and almost 300 grams of protein you KILLING it

and the tyson fight was a sett up lol F these guys wasted my time i agree
 
Dogbreath said:
Today's workout was 45 mins.
I have been on 100 mg Test cyp for 5 weeks.
Really feel the difference on such a low dose. In size, gains and in energy. There is a big difference between cruising on 200 mg & 100.
Going to start a 12 week cycle on Wed. Getting labs done Monday, they always suck out 5 vials. The cycle will be 250 Test, 200 Masteron and 25 mg Turinabol for 12 weeks. Dropping the Turinabol after 1 month. Might add in rad 140 once Turinabol is discontinued. Have not decided also have some var. Or I might just ride out the test and mast without an oral for the remainder. Undecided. Either way I should have some good gains.
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50 mg's Of Turinabol not 25!!!!
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@Dogbreath you know the oldschool saying its not the gear its the training and diet and you are showing it bro :) low dose but great gains
looking forward to your blast cycle
but imo you can easily go with anavar instead of tbol, less anger and lighter compound I found
test/mast/anavar perfect blast for your volume
 
Today was arm day:
4 sets single arm Rope hammer curls on cable machine 4 sets for each arm until failure.
4 sets easy curl bar close grip until failure.
4 sets reverse curls close grip easy curl bar until failure.
4 sets seated alternating dumbbell curls until failure .

4 sets bent over overhead rope triceps extensions until failure. Towards wall.
4 sets pushdowns until failure.
4 sets single arm Rope extensions towards ceiling until failure (each arm)

45 minutes total.
Today's eats:
 

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Leg day is fun now that i have a belt squat i can use, before i hated it.
 
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Today was arm day:
4 sets single arm Rope hammer curls on cable machine 4 sets for each arm until failure.
4 sets easy curl bar close grip until failure.
4 sets reverse curls close grip easy curl bar until failure.
4 sets seated alternating dumbbell curls until failure .

4 sets bent over overhead rope triceps extensions until failure. Towards wall.
4 sets pushdowns until failure.
4 sets single arm Rope extensions towards ceiling until failure (each arm)

45 minutes total.
Today's eats:
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@Dogbreath damn you hardcore today , was that with cardio?
 
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i feel bad when shit like this happens just for samrms
open drug markets in Usa and this happens to guys
though dont know this guy maybe he was an ass not sure
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They said the guy made at the very least $4.5 million. Selling sarms he got from China. Probably only spent @ $50,000 over 4 years for product, gelatin caps, and plastic bottles etc... Must have been a nice ride while it lasted.
 
depends not sure how he is now though, hope bro is alright no matter what he did

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They said the guy made at the very least $4.5 million. Selling sarms he got from China. Probably only spent @ $50,000 over 4 years for product, gelatin caps, and plastic bottles etc... Must have been a nice ride while it lasted.
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Dogbreath said:
Today was leg day:
Seated leg extensions 4 sets until failure.
Leg curls 4 sets until failure
4 sets of light squats @ 245 not until failure just a good burn.
Standing calf raises 4 sets until the failure
Seated calf raises 4 sets until failure

Eats are below:

Tomorrow it starts all over again with Chest, Back & Abs.
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@Dogbreath solid log keep it coming!
 
Shoulders and Traps:
4 sets side lateral raises until failure with low pulley on cable machine.
4 sets front lateral raises until failure with low pulley on cable machine.
4 sets seated reverse flys with cables crossed facing machine until failure.
4 sets seated military press until failure with dumbbells.
Traps:
4 sets side dumbbell shrugs until failure.
4 sets two handed front of body barbell shrugs until failure.

Eats:
 

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Dogbreath said:
Today was leg day:
Seated leg extensions 4 sets until failure.
Leg curls 4 sets until failure
4 sets of light squats @ 245 not until failure just a good burn.
Standing calf raises 4 sets until the failure
Seated calf raises 4 sets until failure

Eats are below:

Tomorrow it starts all over again with Chest, Back & Abs.
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Nice work Bru
 
Dogbreath said:
Shoulders and Traps:
4 sets side lateral raises until failure with low pulley on cable machine.
4 sets front lateral raises until failure with low pulley on cable machine.
4 sets seated reverse flys with cables crossed facing machine until failure.
4 sets seated military press until failure with dumbbells.
Traps:
4 sets side dumbbell shrugs until failure.
4 sets two handed front of body barbell shrugs until failure.

Eats:
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229 a bit low for protein, you recovering fine?
also hows your cardio?
 
Yesterday legs:
4 sets leg extensions until failure.
4 sets leg curls until failure
4 sets light squats until good burn.
4 sets standing calf raises until failure.

Today Chest and Back:
4 sets flat bench until failure 245 lbs
4 sets incline cable flys until failure
4 sets incline cable presses until failure.
4 sets decline cable press until failure.
Back:
4 sets pull ups palms out until failure.
4 sets standing straight arm lat pushdowns until failure.
4 sets seated cable row until failure.

Eats below:
 

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Started 10 week Test/Mast & Turinabol cycle yesterday. Labs came back at 595 after being on 100 mg test a week for 5 weeks. My buddy does sub q injections. I tried it. I think intermuscular is the way to go. My test is higher with IM than subq. Only did subq for two weeks. Usually my test levels are 800+ So it must be less absorbsion or it doesn't work well with my body. So it's IM for me bro's.
 
Dogbreath said:
Yesterday legs:
4 sets leg extensions until failure.
4 sets leg curls until failure
4 sets light squats until good burn.
4 sets standing calf raises until failure.

Today Chest and Back:
4 sets flat bench until failure 245 lbs
4 sets incline cable flys until failure
4 sets incline cable presses until failure.
4 sets decline cable press until failure.
Back:
4 sets pull ups palms out until failure.
4 sets standing straight arm lat pushdowns until failure.
4 sets seated cable row until failure.

Eats below:
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big training day love it bro :)
 
Dogbreath said:
Started 10 week Test/Mast & Turinabol cycle yesterday. Labs came back at 595 after being on 100 mg test a week for 5 weeks. My buddy does sub q injections. I tried it. I think intermuscular is the way to go. My test is higher with IM than subq. Only did subq for two weeks. Usually my test levels are 800+ So it must be less absorbsion or it doesn't work well with my body. So it's IM for me bro's.
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IM is always the way to go bro
i find subq gives me shitty oil pockets on lower abs too
its FOR SURE less absorption i had clients tested
 
Today was Arm day:
4 sets each arm Rope cable hammer curls until failure.
4 sets alternating cable curls until failure.
4 sets reverse cable curls until failure
4 sets preacher curl with EZ curl bar until failure.
4 sets pushdowns until failure whole stack.
4 sets single arm behind the head towards ceiling extensions until failure each arm.
4 sets rope pushdowns until failure whole stack.
4 sets skull crushers until failure.
Abs:
4 sets 25 weighted crunches with rope high pulley.
Used the old Body by Jake ab scissors machine and did 3 sets 25 with 25 lb weight on foot pad.

Eats:
 

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you can do subQ if its a small amount only
over time though it makes more sense to go intramuscular
 
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