Contemplating something...looking for constructive criticism

[LetsGrow]

Hey everyone....been a while since I have posted anything. Was looking to see what people thought of the following for a major recomp.

Stats:
30 years old
255lbs
14% bf
3 cycles to date
1st test e 500mg 12 weeks
2nd cycle 500mg test e week dbol
weeks 1-5 50mg day
3rd cycle tren 500mg week weeks
1-10 test 400mg week weeks 1-12
anavar weeks 7-12 50mg day

Ran hcgenerate n2guard and prami during cycle for 3rd cycle and have not yet entered pct yet as I still have a few weeks to go on cycle. Pct is unleashed, pct, clomid with some hcgenerate and n2guard leading into pct.

So here is my proposed next cycle which is still a ways out but like to start thinking of it now and tighten it up now and start piecing it together. And I know people are going to say 15 weeks of tren e is long but on it now and only side effrct I get is occasional trouble sleeping but thats it. And my thought is that with proper on cycle support and some of the compounds on cycle it should help keep me in good shape.

Proposed cycle:
Weeks 1-15 tren e 500mg week
Weeks 1-15 eq 600mg week
Weeks 1-15 proviron 50mg day
Weeks 1-7 anavar 100mg day
Weeks 8-15 winny 100mg day
Weeks 1-20 gw501516 20mg twice day

Weeks 1-20 hcgenerate
Weeks 1-20 n2guard
Weeks 1-20 caber .25mg twice week
Weeks 18-23 unleashed
Weeks 18-23 pct
Weeks 18-20 clomid 25mg day
Weeks 21-23 clomid 12.5mg day

Have toyed with idea of adding in albuterol in here as it would help with the lipid profile during cycle.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance and looking forward to hearing from some old friends.

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[Raptor67]

Why aren't you running any test?

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[jcnuts]

255lbs and 14%bf.... How tall are you?

~johnycoolnuts~

 

[LetsGrow]

6'6"

Been researching testless cycles. A lot of good info on it and by ensuring that the proper ancillaries are run during cycle there is no real benefit to run the test. Ask some of our veterans on here like stevesmi and other who run tren with no test and they will tell you its great.

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[LetsGrow]

Also looking to not take compounds that really aromatise either. And test is usually run with tren as a means to help with libido and some sides...however with right ancillaries they do the same thing

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[Nelson Montana]

The only reason to not use test is if you wanted to run a less suppressive, less aromatizing, milder, safer, more recoverable cycle.

You're running tren so that's all out the window.

 

[LetsGrow]

So nelson what do you think about the above? Would love your thoughts.

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[Nelson Montana]

So nelson what do you think about the above? Would love your thoughts.

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I'm not sure what you're asking. As I said, running tren has its sides, and not running test is counterproductive. 100 mgs a day of an oral is also a lot.

 

[LetsGrow]

Looking to run cycle with non aromatizing compounds and see what kind of results I get and how I feel on that kind of cycle.

More thoughts and opinions?

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[Nelson Montana]

Looking to run cycle with non aromatizing compounds and see what kind of results I get and how I feel on that kind of cycle.

More thoughts and opinions?

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Why not primo and mast?

 

[LetsGrow]

Its a good thought. Really liked the tren this past cycle and only sides I really had was the occasional insomnia and shortness of breathe (which I hear everyone gets and was expecting it). Figured adding in the gw would help combat the cardio issues and possibly the addition of albuterol for lipid profile.

I do like the sounds of that other stack though. Would it offer the same mind of recomp I am looking at with my proposed cycle?

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[Nelson Montana]

Its a good thought. Really liked the tren this past cycle and only sides I really had was the occasional insomnia and shortness of breathe (which I hear everyone gets and was expecting it). Figured adding in the gw would help combat the cardio issues and possibly the addition of albuterol for lipid profile.

I do like the sounds of that other stack though. Would it offer the same mind of recomp I am looking at with my proposed cycle?

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Insomnia and shortness of breath are pretty severe symptoms in my book, but it's your call.

 

[LetsGrow]

Nelson don't think I am not adhering to advice. I am just looking at all options and very much appreciate your feedback. If I were to go down you road how would you suggest I set it up?

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[LetsGrow]

Bump

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[LetsGrow]

Anyone? Come on all just looking for some feedback...thanks

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[Nelson Montana]

I don't think anyone understands what you're looking for. I don't. You got some advice. Do you have a specific question?

 

[jester72]

Ok, I'll chime in here. 15 weeks of Tren at 500mg/week is crazy. Tren is normally 8-10 weeks max. 15 continuous weeks of orals (Anavar and Winstrol) at 100mg/day is also insanity. I don't care what support supplements you run, that's a TON of stress on your liver. Once endurance is built up, I see no need to run GW for 20 weeks. In fact, I think 8 weeks is the maximum recommended run for it before taking a break.
It's your body though.

 

[LetsGrow]

The question is does the cycle look ok and if not what are somethings to change/modify. I know 15 weeks of tren is a lot but asking whether or not it is safe or not if I run the proper on cycle support/ancillaries.

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[LetsGrow]

Thanks jester good to know. I def need to do more research on gw. Question though once you stop it won't the cardio effects wear off and put me back at square one with the lack of endurance? Just asking a ton of questions. Def have time before next cycle so want to really nail it down

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[RickRock13]

Thanks jester good to know. I def need to do more research on gw. Question though once you stop it won't the cardio effects wear off and put me back at square one with the lack of endurance? Just asking a ton of questions. Def have time before next cycle so want to really nail it down

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You will lose some endurance for sure, but typically your endurance will end up better than before you started and the fat loss you made is permanent as long as you keep your diet in check

 

[LetsGrow]

Thanks rick. What do you think in general of initial proposed cycle

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[jester72]

With the GW, run it weeks 1-8 at 20mg/day. 20mg is the sweet spot for it. There's no need to run 40mg/day, as it offers no additional benefit.
When you discontinue use, you will lose minimal endurance, provided you continue training and cardio at the same levels. The slight endurance loss I noticed after my run was so minimal, it may have well been non-existent.

 

[dylangemelli]

Hey everyone....been a while since I have posted anything. Was looking to see what people thought of the following for a major recomp.

Stats:
30 years old
255lbs
14% bf
3 cycles to date
1st test e 500mg 12 weeks
2nd cycle 500mg test e week dbol
weeks 1-5 50mg day
3rd cycle tren 500mg week weeks
1-10 test 400mg week weeks 1-12
anavar weeks 7-12 50mg day

Ran hcgenerate n2guard and prami during cycle for 3rd cycle and have not yet entered pct yet as I still have a few weeks to go on cycle. Pct is unleashed, pct, clomid with some hcgenerate and n2guard leading into pct.

So here is my proposed next cycle which is still a ways out but like to start thinking of it now and tighten it up now and start piecing it together. And I know people are going to say 15 weeks of tren e is long but on it now and only side effrct I get is occasional trouble sleeping but thats it. And my thought is that with proper on cycle support and some of the compounds on cycle it should help keep me in good shape.

Proposed cycle:
Weeks 1-15 tren e 500mg week
Weeks 1-15 eq 600mg week
Weeks 1-15 proviron 50mg day
Weeks 1-7 anavar 100mg day
Weeks 8-15 winny 100mg day
Weeks 1-20 gw501516 20mg twice day

Weeks 1-20 hcgenerate
Weeks 1-20 n2guard
Weeks 1-20 caber .25mg twice week
Weeks 18-23 unleashed
Weeks 18-23 pct
Weeks 18-20 clomid 25mg day
Weeks 21-23 clomid 12.5mg day

Have toyed with idea of adding in albuterol in here as it would help with the lipid profile during cycle.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance and looking forward to hearing from some old friends.

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you know i like you bro but i don't like what your doing here... first... you already know better... you know these doses are ridiculous and you know your running certain things too long... then, your just continuing to ask until you hopefully finally get the answer you want to justify the recklessness going on here... noone with any intelligence whatsoever is going to give you the approval you want... its not the things your using, its HOW... its reckless and its only going to hurt you...

tren for too long, anavar at 100 is too high but its not unheard but winstrol at 100 is just absurd... i mean just absurd... caber dose is too low... gw length and dose is ridiculous... you have a more is better mentality and that's just flat out wrong... if you don't want to run test then that's fine but this needs to be fixed in so many ways...

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1-16 eq 800 mg week
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[LetsGrow]

Hey dylan thanks buddy. No please dont take it as I am just asking for people to agree with me, not at all, just asking cuz I have not really found much about taking tren longer than 10 weeks with proper on cycle ancilliaries, so I am asking the more knowledgeable about it.

As far as anavar goes the stuff I get comes in 50mg capsules, hence the 100mg dose. If my guy does smaller amounts would def do less. As far as winny goes I have heard stuff from 60-100mg day and from what I have seen doses are usually on thr higher end.

Follow up question, since the cycle doesn't really have aromatizing agents in it, is aromasin necessary or is it really as a precaution and aid the caber with the progesterone?

With respect to gw I have seen more and more posts saying 2 doses at 20mg each 1 am and 1 pm but perhaps that is not the norm...thanks for clarifying. With respect to sarms I def take your word for it cuz I know that of all people here you probably have the most comprehensive knowledge of them and experience, so thank you. I will do more reading on some of them like the lg that I am not overly familiar with.

I assume from your proposed pct that nolva will not be an issue since the tren is done after 10 weeks and cleared up out the system by the time I stary pct?

From what I am looking at you are also suggesting gw and ostarine as part of my pct correct?

I actually am not trying to do more is better and looking at combos to see what compounds I can not take as part of a cycle because I believe taking too much is only setting myself up for failure. My main goal is complete recomp.

Do you think I should add a low dose test into cycle or am I really ok without and just using the sarms?

Sorry this is off a bit been a while and also doing from my phone lol.

Since I know I haven't been around for a while and some philosophies have changed I wanted to ask.

My first priority is to do something as safely as possible.

I appreciate all the feedback guys. Def going to look more into your setup dylan and get some more background on some of these sarms so I know what I am putting in my body.

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