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This is why we tell you newbs to not juice without a base

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fucking injured :( - YouTube

I told this guy right here ^^^^ a year ago on this very site that he should build a base for the next 2-3 years naturally.. but he wouldn't listen and decided to juice anyway. now look.. his joints are messed up and he probably tore his rotator cuff and now can't even lift his arm up to brush his teeth

you MUST build a base and build conditioning or you will end up injured.. it is 100% true everytime. the body cannot handle if you put on a ton of weight or strength in a short time with the help of hormones. it becomes counter productive as illlustrated here. i was waiting for this to happen it was only a matter of time.
 
Put on a large amount of weight so quickly.. he doesn't look like he ever lifted a weight in his life.. he is such a tool

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His method of treating the injury arent helping either, ice and nsaids are just going to delay healing.
 
Put on a large amount of weight so quickly.. he doesn't look like he ever lifted a weight in his life.. he is such a tool

exactly.. he went from a stick with no base. to less of a stick with still no base.

and any small amount of mass he managed to put on the past year is gonna be gone since he can't lift .. so he will end up worse than when he started.
 
Does he even lift bro?
This guy's a tool it's not even worth talking about him.

he does lift according to his vids but its important to remember it takes years to build muscle mass. he wants a short cut and short cuts don't work

secondly we have newbs on here daily who want to juice without building a base who don't understand why its necessary to.. so this thread can be a good link to show them why
 
What an idiot . I have a friend just like him... Refuses to do anythjng with out juice... Weighted 140 at 5'8 and ran sus/winny/androbulk last summer got up to 170 . Stopped working out and when I saw him begging of this summer he was back at 140... He did a test e with winny cycle and is back up to 170.... It's funny bc he stops working out and stops any type of diet once he comes off... Oh and last summer he has zero pct . I kno this time he's using hcg and he has clomid and some test booster for pct.... Anyway, he's a fuckin idiot and everyone equates to him as the idiot who juices and looses all his gains...
 
I don't think he has ever even heard of proper form. Bad technique combined with heavy ego lifting is always a recipe for disaster.
 
The reason he hurt his shoulder is because I've been praying to Jesus every day that that fucktard gets hurt Bwaahahhhhhhahhh!!

As soon as one word comes out of his stupid mouth I get the urge to slug him in the head.

He used to have video of himself on leg press I think, with one plate bending his legs like an inch. But, I see he took all his lifting vids off, and now its just videos of him yacking.
 
The reason he hurt his shoulder is because I've been praying to Jesus every day that that fucktard gets hurt Bwaahahhhhhhahhh!!

As soon as one word comes out of his stupid mouth I get the urge to slug him in the head.

He used to have video of himself on leg press I think, with one plate bending his legs like an inch. But, I see he took all his lifting vids off, and now its just videos of him yacking.



must have been the mojo from both of us wishing ill on him.

that kid is garbage. a walking piece of steaming shit. he went from being a heroin junkie to what he thinks is an AAS guru. just traded one needle for another. I have seen almost every youtube vid that shit pile posted on aas. its like a fucking car accident....you dont wanna see it but you cant look away.
piece of shit has been through test, tren, dbol, you name it and look at him....he still doesnt look like he even trains. and he talks shit through it all. true white trash garbage wigger. I hope he reads this. (if you do...fuck you...you get what you deserve)
there are only a select few in this league. even if not physically, then mentally. you know....those fucking losers who dont like what someone says because they shouldnt be using aas so they pm you about how they are going to fuck you up. some people should be put to sleep. Mr Socal, Usmax, Criminal...... God....I gotta go take a shit now.
thanks alot steve! I also urge everyone reading this to drop him a youtube message or comment and tell him what you think.
 
I couldn't help but laugh when I saw him. There's me assuming he's a big guy who's put on a ton of muscle and his body couldn't cope. In reality, he's an absolute dbag who's about as big as my 16 year old cousin. I've seen someone who had the potential to play professional rugby rupture his ACL whilst doing a squat. 18 year old guy who was on his third cycle, went up 40lbs in a year. Despite everyone telling him not to. Three years on he still can't walk properly, can never play sport again and not only has he lost every last ounce of his gains. He's fat as hell. YOU NEED A BASE!
 
its funny cause all my years of lifting i never hurt myself.. yeah i've had little nagging injuries but never full blown damage. what did fuck me up was contact sports. weightlifting as long as you use proper form and don't overtrain you should never get injured.. i tell moms all the time because I judge high school lifting who are crying to me how dangerous lifting is and how they don't want their kids doing it.. i try and explain to them its the most safe sport out there. want a dangerous sport? football will fuck you up bigtime.. unless you play kicker

anyway this guy hurts himself on a press and it wasn't even going heavy or coming close to maxing out.. it was for reps!! either his form is horrible from lack of experience/understanding or he has such horrible conditioning from no base that he blew it out. and I TOLD HIM on his thread in the weightlifting section either/or would happen a year ago, you can look it up.. and now look..
 
Ha, like mentioned before I thought this guy was gonna be decent sized. Looks like he started shooting AAS straight outta the holocaust. I can't stand him talking either, sounds like drugs melted his brain...

You're right about football Steve, ridiculous how many injuries in my family we've had from it. Years ago my cousins were putting up big numbers in the weight room playing college ball. Then one separated BOTH of his shoulders and the other tore his ACL, Meniscus, and fractured his kneecap... The one can't lift anymore because his shoulders won't allow any kind of pressing exercises and the other have up all hope after his surgery gaining massive amounts of weight.

The worst injury I've probably ever had from lifting was throwing my back into a BB curl in my early years. Back tightened up and hurt quite a bit, but I was back at it in 3-4 days. I'd take that any day...
 
Or more importantly the people that comment on his videos think he is a guru and more than likely start listing to what he says (besides this video lol)
 
The reason he hurt his shoulder is because I've been praying to Jesus every day that that fucktard gets hurt Bwaahahhhhhhahhh!!

As soon as one word comes out of his stupid mouth I get the urge to slug him in the head.

He used to have video of himself on leg press I think, with one plate bending his legs like an inch. But, I see he took all his lifting vids off, and now its just videos of him yacking.

LOL

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It's people like this kid that are causing me to lose hope for humanity. He should be sterilized and forced to take an indefinite vow of silence. What a kook...
 
The problem is and has always been EGO
It doesn't matter if he uses steroids without a base, that ego of him will lead him to problems all his life, base or no base.

He doesn't seem to have an ounce of care to this body either.
I mean, my "Goddamn fucking" shoulder?
Why would you speak that way about yourself?
 
I agree he made some very dumb choices but what else did he do? Seems like a lot of people have bad blood with him here

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I agree he made some very dumb choices but what else did he do? Seems like a lot of people have bad blood with him here

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He is the personification of a huge problem that effects a majority of the world today. Just a spoiled brat looking to put in a half ass effort and get full results. His vocabulary, or lack there of,shows his ignorance and he seems to be proud of it. It's sad.
 
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lol @ BTC...tells it like it is.

LOLTZ!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I absolutely agree, I view him as symbol for all problems associated with AAS use/abuse and all the interweb-gurus & google-masters spreading loads of misinformation.
Of course he doesn't have enough influence to be blamed for much, but he does make one hell of a good symbol/metaphor for the problem.

I didn't know that he has account here, I think I will have a look at his posts and see just how moronic he is able to present himself when he has to write instead of speaking... :p

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must have been the mojo from both of us wishing ill on him.

that kid is garbage. a walking piece of steaming shit. he went from being a heroin junkie to what he thinks is an AAS guru. just traded one needle for another. I have seen almost every youtube vid that shit pile posted on aas. its like a fucking car accident....you dont wanna see it but you cant look away.
piece of shit has been through test, tren, dbol, you name it and look at him....he still doesnt look like he even trains. and he talks shit through it all. true white trash garbage wigger. I hope he reads this. (if you do...fuck you...you get what you deserve)
there are only a select few in this league. even if not physically, then mentally. you know....those fucking losers who dont like what someone says because they shouldnt be using aas so they pm you about how they are going to fuck you up. some people should be put to sleep. Mr Socal, Usmax, Criminal...... God....I gotta go take a shit now.
thanks alot steve! I also urge everyone reading this to drop him a youtube message or comment and tell him what you think.

Sadly enough its not just him. I live In South Florida and there are lots of people in recovery for drug addiction. Many of them drop the drugs hit the gym and start using steroids relatively quickly. I've seen this first hand its ridiculous

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Criminal10dinC. Look up his posts. He took the cake for most entertaining posts. Dumbest SOB i at have ever had the pleasure of interacting with.

He also was dirt poor, biked to his fast food job, but spent the money he didn't have on gear. Oh yeah and he got some hooker pregnant. Now it looks like he bought a handgun. He called it a Smith & Wesson glock 40. Jesus.
 
I am surprised that he didn't have a tapout shirt or something of that nature on.

I can't seem to find his old posts.. someone put a link to it
 
Criminal10dinC. Look up his posts. He took the cake for most entertaining posts. Dumbest SOB i at have ever had the pleasure of interacting with.

He also was dirt poor, biked to his fast food job, but spent the money he didn't have on gear. Oh yeah and he got some hooker pregnant. Now it looks like he bought a handgun. He called it a Smith & Wesson glock 40. Jesus.

yeah how is a felon able to get a gun anyway? and we wonder why there are so much gun violence.. I am not aware of state laws but in FL felons can't get guns.. not sure why in TX its okay for felons to run around with them.

but anyway he had a log on here a year ago and got a lot of advice which he failed to listen to .

and i hope any newbs who want a shortcut read this and see you don't get shortcuts and 2. that steroids don't turn you into looking like zyzz or Arnold overnight, thats the point of the thread.
 
If some kid is looking to juice post them that link. ...

Somebody please invite him on here

Actually thinking about it dont....

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Criminal10dinc never stood a chance from the moment he picked up his first needle
 
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yeah how is a felon able to get a gun anyway? and we wonder why there are so much gun violence.. I am not aware of state laws but in FL felons can't get guns.. not sure why in TX its okay for felons to run around with them..

Yes, because I'm sure he obtained his handgun legally. He seems like a very proper law abiding citizen.
 
Watched this guys vids and its pathetic to think people follow him and even worse he looks like absolute shit. No apparent muscle just looks pretty soft
 
Yes, because I'm sure he obtained his handgun legally. He seems like a very proper law abiding citizen.

never said he aquired it legally.. i merely asked how he was able to get his hands on one. if we have guns floating around that any criminal or the mentally ill can get a hold of then that is a problem obviously.
 
never said he aquired it legally.. i merely asked how he was able to get his hands on one. if we have guns floating around that any criminal or the mentally ill can get a hold of then that is a problem obviously.

ahh yes.....he is just continuing merrily down the path to becoming a statistic.
 
never said he aquired it legally.. i merely asked how he was able to get his hands on one. if we have guns floating around that any criminal or the mentally ill can get a hold of then that is a problem obviously.

the same way he got his hands on illegal drugs.
 
the same way he got his hands on illegal drugs.

someone should ask him on his youtube channel (he blocked me long ago).. i am genuinley curious.. and he said before he also had an outstanding warrant.. wouldn't he be arrested on the spot for that?

a slap in the face to all juicers guys like this who make us all look like shit.

not just the gun but everything about him.
 
Like anabolic steroids? Well that is a problem obviously


Oh wait...

with guys like him juicing it isn't gonna change the media/society views on it thats for sure.. and then on top of it the MLB thing going on.. not gonna happen

I don't hate this guy at all.. but i hate what he is doing to guys who do juice reputation, the same way I hate idiots in pro sports and olympians who get busted for juicing and push politicians to legislate it.
 
someone should ask him on his youtube channel (he blocked me long ago).. i am genuinley curious.. and he said before he also had an outstanding warrant.. wouldn't he be arrested on the spot for that?

a slap in the face to all juicers guys like this who make us all look like shit.

not just the gun but everything about him.

He blocks anyone that doesn't agree with his white trash shit for brains philosophy on life and AAS He cant take criticism in any form. He just screams that everyone is jealous and a hater.
 
with guys like him juicing it isn't gonna change the media/society views on it thats for sure.. and then on top of it the MLB thing going on.. not gonna happen

I don't hate this guy at all.. but i hate what he is doing to guys who do juice reputation, the same way I hate idiots in pro sports and olympians who get busted for juicing and push politicians to legislate it.

I couldnt agree more. The reason AAS has a bad name is from these idiots that have no idea what they are doing, and from hipocratic sports figures in the public eye
 
with guys like him juicing it isn't gonna change the media/society views on it thats for sure.. and then on top of it the MLB thing going on.. not gonna happen

I don't hate this guy at all.. but i hate what he is doing to guys who do juice reputation, the same way I hate idiots in pro sports and olympians who get busted for juicing and push politicians to legislate it.

Same could be said of guns. It's always the bad users that ruin it for the good users.
 
The reason he hurt his shoulder is because I've been praying to Jesus every day that that fucktard gets hurt Bwaahahhhhhhahhh!!

As soon as one word comes out of his stupid mouth I get the urge to slug him in the head.

He used to have video of himself on leg press I think, with one plate bending his legs like an inch. But, I see he took all his lifting vids off, and now its just videos of him yacking.

Lmfao!
 
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Like anabolic steroids? Well that is a problem obviously


Oh wait...

Obviously much worse than black tar pure junk

A gun is the least of his worries

But knowing him he would play russian roulette with an autoloader
 
If he cant lift for very long he will be back and the black tar I.V. drip before long.

As a recovering alcoholic I have seen this too many times. guys get sober, hop on a cycle, run out of money, don't PCT, lose the small gains they made, get depressed and go back to the junk. Many times they don't make it back in time to save their lives. The kid is a moron but I don't wish him an ill fate, and it doesn't get much more ill than that...
 
Repping the whole fucking stack! I'd love to see what sort of technique he was using, I bet it was a full body workout lol
 
Doesn't know what "rotator cuff" or "lat pulldown" is but can say debilitating lol dudes a dumb ass I hope it hurts.
 
He has a video called "gods gift to these hoes". It was very inspiring.
 
fucking injured :( - YouTube

I told this guy right here ^^^^ a year ago on this very site that he should build a base for the next 2-3 years naturally.. but he wouldn't listen and decided to juice anyway. now look.. his joints are messed up and he probably tore his rotator cuff and now can't even lift his arm up to brush his teeth

you MUST build a base and build conditioning or you will end up injured.. it is 100% true everytime. the body cannot handle if you put on a ton of weight or strength in a short time with the help of hormones. it becomes counter productive as illlustrated here. i was waiting for this to happen it was only a matter of time.

But he seems like such a intelligent and well spoken gentleman.............I guess it could happen to anyone.
 
He looked bigger in some of his other vids, but really. After a hearing him talk for 5 seconds I just wanted to drive pencils into my ear drums.
 
He's taking a week off so at least everybody else at his gym get a break from him. Well, a break or "whatever its called".

What kind of lowlifes do you have to associate with to think it isn't okay to know the correct word for something? Like it makes you not cool to be intelligent?

I grew up with a pretty rough and tumble crowd, and later in the army the crowd got even rougher. I'm talking about government trained, no remorse killers. But never once was intelligence considered a shortcoming.

This guy needs a mentor or something. What a douche.

And like others have said, imagine people looking up to him!
 
He's taking a week off so at least everybody else at his gym get a break from him. Well, a break or "whatever its called".

What kind of lowlifes do you have to associate with to think it isn't okay to know the correct word for something? Like it makes you not cool to be intelligent?

I grew up with a pretty rough and tumble crowd, and later in the army the crowd got even rougher. I'm talking about government trained, no remorse killers. But never once was intelligence considered a shortcoming.

This guy needs a bullet or something. What a douche.

And like others have said, imagine people looking up to him!

Fixed it for you.
 
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