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noodles1010

noodles1010

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Just looked on The site to pick up some stuff... Good lord... Shit that used to be 45.00 is now 70... What the hell did they do start casting the bottles In Gold leaf?! 58.00 for a bottle of bridge?! 74.00 for n2guard!!!??? The supports are more than the gear! Jeez. I likes the old look with the old prices. That's just too expensive even after the discounts. It's a shame to. They make good stuff...
 
Yea bro.. I'm not gonna trash it cause need2 is cool. I'm taking that the cost of material is going up bro. Inflation doesn't help either. I haven't really bought anything from them for that reason. But of there stuff lasts 30 days and for those prices it's justo too mich
 
Don't get me wrong. I love Nate. Awesome guy. But money is money. I want to use the products but all together the inflation adds up. Anyone who uses their stuff will tell you, we don't care how it looks, as long as it works.
But for anyone questioning the products their A+
 
Unfortunately I agree especially as an international customer having to pay shipping on top of that. Transaderm I brought for less than 70 bucks from NTBM and is now 149. Products are great no doubt about that but a bit too expensive for me.
 
Its all about supply and demand!!! If they only have a few instock and some guy want to pay double the price well then they make more profit!
 
Headholio said:
The whey protein at $60/ 5 lb is a pretty competitive price, and that's before any discount codes.
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that is... im talking about the supps.

As far as supply and demand, thats one thing, but then dont claim its for the people and not about money... Granted, we are in business to make money, but when you literally bump prices by 15% over night, thats excessive... 5% is cost inflation...
 
Noodles1010 said:
Just looked on The site to pick up some stuff... Good lord... Shit that used to be 45.00 is now 70... What the hell did they do start casting the bottles In Gold leaf?! 58.00 for a bottle of bridge?! 74.00 for n2guard!!!??? The supports are more than the gear! Jeez. I likes the old look with the old prices. That's just too expensive even after the discounts. It's a shame to. They make good stuff...
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Agreed its costly but good product. Gas is thru the roof, everything food.... Its not just need2 its everything look at a Toyota Tacoma everthing is expensive were not in the 80's anymore min wadge isnt 4.25 either so will just gotta deal with it.
 
Prices on n2guard are back to normal... Indulge my friends. Lmao... Funny how that happened. Do I dare say hcgenerate too :x lmao
 
Bros, I too agree that ntbm products are a bit pricey but then the quality, ingrediants & the amazing customer service they offer is not so available at other places.
Infact we will not find such products anywhere & we all agree his products work.
He do not use artificials ingrediants & fillers & the ingrediants he uses cost him a hell lot of money.
But still notice he tries to keep his share of cost more to himself & offer us the best possible price.
 
My take on it: You get what you pay for.

I have no doubt that Nate only uses the most highest quality ingredients in his supplements. Nate is on here all hours of the day and night, offering TONS of free advice for the taking. I've never seen a company owner go so far as Nate has for this sport.

Discount code needto139 is ALWAYS available, and with free shipping, his prices are absolutely competitive.

I'm not a rep.. Just a happy NTBM customer for life.
 
I would use a lot more of there products if they weren't so expensive. I use hcgenerate n2 guard post cycle &unleashed I would like to try bridge, gear and a few others.
 
King Leonidas said:
My take on it: You get what you pay for.

I have no doubt that Nate only uses the most highest quality ingredients in his supplements. Nate is on here all hours of the day and night, offering TONS of free advice for the taking. I've never seen a company owner go so far as Nate has for this sport.

Discount code needto139 is ALWAYS available, and with free shipping, his prices are absolutely competitive.

I'm not a rep.. Just a happy NTBM customer for life.
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Like wise bro. Agree 99%. I was just shocked to see the increase. I don't want anyone to Mis understand what I'm saying.
 
Now.. I do get frustrated when everything I want is out of stock, but that comes with the supply and demand side of things.

Nate: I need Ancient Strength, Unleashed, and Post Cycle back in stock bro!
 
I agree prices are well...pricy..

N2slin is always out of stock too...

Sales are good and all, but when your sales only bring your product back down to what your competitors are charging for a normal amount, well...yeah

If his stuff was a bit cheaper I'd order on a regular basis instead of a "special occasion" type of thing
 
I know in a thread nate had asked how people would feel if he just carried his top 10 sellers - Maybe he could jump in here and speak more to this great idea.
Things I would assume would come from this:
There would be a greater supply of the top sellers - less waiting and waiting for the products we love to be back in stock.
If needto was purchasing greater amounts of certain supps maybe he could get better deals and that could perhaps provide savings for the customers (us!)

I think this is a great idea personally, but what does everyone else think?
 
I think you get what you pay for, high quality shit that works cost alot to make. If everyone wants Need2 to get China made powders/ingredients, or skimp on ingredents and add fillers I'm sure he can...and make a hell of a lot more money on products??? Prices are not bad at all for AVAILABLE legal products that work and do there job. I know the supplement business retail, wholesale, and manufacturing.. just my 2 cents.
 
I think about all the money i spent on garbage, un necessary, under dosed, over priced muscle-tech-esque garbage that did SFA for me, Im okay paying a ~20% premium to know I'm getting the absolute best money can buy
 
for me, i need to have the best of the best... i wont pump garbage into my body... and yes, quality comes with a price tag... but what do you do when the prices climb so rapidly in a matter of days after the packaging on a bottle changes? no one cares what the bottle looks like, as long as it works andddd the price is fair.... ive seen very very veryyyy similar stuff to n2guard, a few ingredients differ but relatively the same, and im talking a FRACTION of the cost... theirs was 45.00 to ntbm's 68.00 a bottle... their "phytoserms347" was 45.00 a bottle!!! ntbm 155!!! That is the EXACT same ingredients! literally! I need to shut up before i get banned for this shit...
NTBM is a great company, they offer great products... the prices could be more consumer friendly thats all... when a guy needs 3 bottles of n2guard, its still 174.00 just for that alone... not to mention protein than needs to be bought still, along with pct supps and dont forget the bridge, sarms, daa, forma, ect ect... i spent triple on my aas supports and stuff than i did on my actual gear...
maybe ntbm can offer a aas bundle where people like myself and countless others on here can buy the whole bundle at a discounted rate all in one shot... makes spending hundreds on supps a little less stressful on the pockets, and more appealing to the eye...
 
Noodles1010 said:
Just looked on The site to pick up some stuff... Good lord... Shit that used to be 45.00 is now 70... What the hell did they do start casting the bottles In Gold leaf?! 58.00 for a bottle of bridge?! 74.00 for n2guard!!!??? The supports are more than the gear! Jeez. I likes the old look with the old prices. That's just too expensive even after the discounts. It's a shame to. They make good stuff...
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Agreed. Would love some n2gaurd but fuck that... $74???
 
kfriesen said:
I think about all the money i spent on garbage, un necessary, under dosed, over priced muscle-tech-esque garbage that did SFA for me, Im okay paying a ~20% premium to know I'm getting the absolute best money can buy
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Yeah but muscle tech already charges a lot for crap. Logically paying even more for something that only does what it is supposed to do doesn't make sense. I love ntbm but I can't afford anything of theirs. I should've grabbed my Bridge when it was around 37.
 
I heard lots of good things about NTB, but the stack that I have been desperately asking for has been out for stock for almost a month. I was told 3 different re-stocking dates by their rep on three different occasions and so far nothing. I havent even gotten a response when I tried to reach out. It's a tiny bit frustration.

I think I will wait for it, since it is great stuff. But come on now, I dont want to wait that long for my gear :(
 
Jack steel said:
Yeah but muscle tech already charges a lot for crap. Logically paying even more for something that only does what it is supposed to do doesn't make sense. I love ntbm but I can't afford anything of theirs. I should've grabbed my Bridge when it was around 37.
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Paying more for a product that dose what its suppose to is very logical. How many products are out there being Sold that don't do what they are suppose to...or not as good.
 
I know of other companies that will match ingredient for ingredient for less.

Spent almost $350 for 30 days from Mtbm. Way to much.
 
King Leonidas said:
My take on it: You get what you pay for.

I have no doubt that Nate only uses the most highest quality ingredients in his supplements. Nate is on here all hours of the day and night, offering TONS of free advice for the taking. I've never seen a company owner go so far as Nate has for this sport.

Discount code needto139 is ALWAYS available, and with free shipping, his prices are absolutely competitive.

I'm not a rep.. Just a happy NTBM customer for life.
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I hear what you're saying and I am always a firm believer in that saying but I dont think it applies here. Its not as if the formula changed to reflect the price increases - the issue people are having is that its the same product at a much higher price rather than a better product at a higher price
 
You can buy other products cheaper that almost do the same thing. I'd rather save up and get the best to my knowledge products from a guy that actually gives a shit about what he is selling. This life style isn't cheap or easy. I don't think I could get better gains off any other company. When there's a sale or even just in stock I grab as much as I can afford. Here lately I havnt been able to drop as much as I would like. I would rather spend my money on Nathan's products than give GNC or the vitamin shop my money for sub par crap. But that's just me... Yes it's aggravating when things I want are out of stock, but it also confirms that somebody else likes it just as much as I do. You get what you pay for. I also remember when hcgenerate was 64.99 and bridge was 36 something. Don't quote me on prices but it was a lot cheaper. So was gas, food, and other everyday items. Heck I blame Obama :) I still will pay more to know I'm getting something I like. Peace out :)
 
omega910 said:
I know of other companies that will match ingredient for ingredient for less.

Spent almost $350 for 30 days from Mtbm. Way to much.
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This. Many good options available, but they will not be noted in this forum because they are not N2, Protien factory, Amaricelle, or Mr. Supps.

It is what it is...

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looking at contents is one thing but youve got understand that products and supplements that contain natural ingrediants are not always comparible on ingredaint list.
for example natural produces and herbal ingredaints will be produced and shipped in batches and will range in quality and content greatly, just because something contains ingrediant X it doesnt mean that ingrediant will be as effective as another compnaies ingrediant X, i beleive nate and the like have to batch test and choose their ingrediant profiles very carefully as two products may contain the same amount of X but one will be of superior quality to another as the batch was superior.
To keep a high quality and effective range of supps they will have to pick and choose and also test to see if the produce is of enough quality to be wrothy of inclusion, this is where other compnaies differ as they will bulk buy in certain ingrediants and include them regardless of whether batch 1 was anywhere near as effective as batch 2, your paying for consistency and a quality guarentee and often explains why they are out of stock as the raw ingrediants are often not good enough for inclusion.
I used to fish alot and there was a tiger nut boom where everyone was hauling on these nuts, however you needed to get the tigers from a perticular sourced area as these ones contained a milky swet taste that the fish loved, if you bought elsewhere they were still tiger nuts but not effective as they lacked the specific characteristics that the other had and the fish would ignore them. a similar case here just because something has 200mg of X doesnt mean its as effective as another prduct with 200mg of X.
natural, farmed produce greatly varies and i honestly think the reason its expensive and often out of stock is that it is very hard to find a constant high quality source for these materials.
 
nickb86 said:
looking at contents is one thing but youve got understand that products and supplements that contain natural ingrediants are not always comparible on ingredaint list.
for example natural produces and herbal ingredaints will be produced and shipped in batches and will range in quality and content greatly, just because something contains ingrediant X it doesnt mean that ingrediant will be as effective as another compnaies ingrediant X, i beleive nate and the like have to batch test and choose their ingrediant profiles very carefully as two products may contain the same amount of X but one will be of superior quality to another as the batch was superior.
To keep a high quality and effective range of supps they will have to pick and choose and also test to see if the produce is of enough quality to be wrothy of inclusion, this is where other compnaies differ as they will bulk buy in certain ingrediants and include them regardless of whether batch 1 was anywhere near as effective as batch 2, your paying for consistency and a quality guarentee and often explains why they are out of stock as the raw ingrediants are often not good enough for inclusion.
I used to fish alot and there was a tiger nut boom where everyone was hauling on these nuts, however you needed to get the tigers from a perticular sourced area as these ones contained a milky swet taste that the fish loved, if you bought elsewhere they were still tiger nuts but not effective as they lacked the specific characteristics that the other had and the fish would ignore them. a similar case here just because something has 200mg of X doesnt mean its as effective as another prduct with 200mg of X.
natural, farmed produce greatly varies and i honestly think the reason its expensive and often out of stock is that it is very hard to find a constant high quality source for these materials.
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Its true that there can be different qualities for products with the same ingredients. On the other hand, if someone charges out the a$$ for a product, that doesn't mean its better.

One strategy a marketer can use, is to place their product in the premium category, and try to get a superior price. Examples: Mercedes, Michelin, Patagonia, Oakley, etc.

A lot of products that get away with that do so because their product has developed in to a status symbol, in combination with a quality that is noticably above the norm.

For supplements, the premium product strategy is hard to pull off. It can work in part as people have tendency to think that expensive stuff is better stuff, but if you can buy cheap stuff and don't see any difference, you will keep buying cheap.

Hcgenerate for example, was probably the highest priced test booster around, until Phytoserms came along. Now both those products, to me, seem way out of line with the market. On the other hand, if they work miracles, some people may be willing to keep buying.

I have had good luck with less expensive test boosters. I'm about to start on Hcgenerate (got it cheap), and I will see if the price lines up with the results.
 
Some products are pricy due to availability. But for what they do, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and BRIDGE are very reasonable. The dosing comes out to about a buck a day. GEAR is great if you want a "gold standard" of anabolism but for those on a budget, wait for a sale or a discount code.
 
Nelson Montana said:
It's in now. But I think needto only has it available as part of the UNLEASHED/POST-CYCLE combo -- which is best to have anyway.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm 43 and looking to use Unleashed on a long term basis as a vitamin, so to speak, for testosterone production. Not thinking that I would really need the Post Cycle for this use. Is my thinking correct or off?
 
panther66 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm 43 and looking to use Unleashed on a long term basis as a vitamin, so to speak, for testosterone production. Not thinking that I would really need the Post Cycle for this use. Is my thinking correct or off?
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Unleashed works fine on its own. I've never used it with Post Cycle. But it doesn't produce testosterone. It prevents more of your test from being bound and unusable, ie it increases free testosterone, not total.
 
nickb86 said:
looking at contents is one thing but youve got understand that products and supplements that contain natural ingrediants are not always comparible on ingredaint list.
for example natural produces and herbal ingredaints will be produced and shipped in batches and will range in quality and content greatly, just because something contains ingrediant X it doesnt mean that ingrediant will be as effective as another compnaies ingrediant X, i beleive nate and the like have to batch test and choose their ingrediant profiles very carefully as two products may contain the same amount of X but one will be of superior quality to another as the batch was superior.
To keep a high quality and effective range of supps they will have to pick and choose and also test to see if the produce is of enough quality to be wrothy of inclusion, this is where other compnaies differ as they will bulk buy in certain ingrediants and include them regardless of whether batch 1 was anywhere near as effective as batch 2, your paying for consistency and a quality guarentee and often explains why they are out of stock as the raw ingrediants are often not good enough for inclusion.
I used to fish alot and there was a tiger nut boom where everyone was hauling on these nuts, however you needed to get the tigers from a perticular sourced area as these ones contained a milky swet taste that the fish loved, if you bought elsewhere they were still tiger nuts but not effective as they lacked the specific characteristics that the other had and the fish would ignore them. a similar case here just because something has 200mg of X doesnt mean its as effective as another prduct with 200mg of X.
natural, farmed produce greatly varies and i honestly think the reason its expensive and often out of stock is that it is very hard to find a constant high quality source for these materials.
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I would agree with this except the info in this particular case is bogus. Ill tell you why... Prolensis for example is a trademarked product of another company and there are multiple company's using this blend. Including ntbm in phytoserms. The quality doesnt vary, its all from the same manufacturer. Their company stays in business by providing not quality, but consistency and god willing in our case, both lol. Milk thistle... It's milk thistle! Fresh or two mos old it does the same thing. What your saying is relevant to herbs such as maca root, coq10, fenugreek seeds ect which to be quite honest is not very hard to come by. Not like we are George Jung here going to Colombia to get the purist most potent cocaine available... It's herbs. Any Indian shop, vitamin shop, whole foods, or homeopathic store will have them and they all range from junk to high quality and consistency.

At the end of the day no one is saying ntbm is garbage or doesn't have high quality stuff. All we are simply saying is the prices are getting out of control for your average working joe, which correct me if I'm wrong, 90% of us are. It has to be reasonable. Right now it is reasonably high...
At least that's how I feel. Keep in mind I'm not in any way shape or form talking about the man behind the business, I'm just talking about the business, and I think I made a valid point earlier in the thread saying that ntbm could/should put together a "aas package" that includes some bridge, hcgenerate, n2guard, protien, ect ect for our on cycle needs at a discounted rate. This both makes it appealing to the eye and the pocket
 
panther66 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm 43 and looking to use Unleashed on a long term basis as a vitamin, so to speak, for testosterone production. Not thinking that I would really need the Post Cycle for this use. Is my thinking correct or off?
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POST_CYCLE won't hurt. liver detox, natty estro control and NO2 precursors for better erections. What's not to like?
 
Noodles1010 said:
I would agree with this except the info in this particular case is bogus. Ill tell you why... Prolensis for example is a trademarked product of another company and there are multiple company's using this blend. Including ntbm in phytoserms. The quality doesnt vary, its all from the same manufacturer. Their company stays in business by providing not quality, but consistency and god willing in our case, both lol. Milk thistle... It's milk thistle! Fresh or two mos old it does the same thing. What your saying is relevant to herbs such as maca root, coq10, fenugreek seeds ect which to be quite honest is not very hard to come by. Not like we are George Jung here going to Colombia to get the purist most potent cocaine available... It's herbs. Any Indian shop, vitamin shop, whole foods, or homeopathic store will have them and they all range from junk to high quality and consistency.

At the end of the day no one is saying ntbm is garbage or doesn't have high quality stuff. All we are simply saying is the prices are getting out of control for your average working joe, which correct me if I'm wrong, 90% of us are. It has to be reasonable. Right now it is reasonably high...
At least that's how I feel. Keep in mind I'm not in any way shape or form talking about the man behind the business, I'm just talking about the business, and I think I made a valid point earlier in the thread saying that ntbm could/should put together a "aas package" that includes some bridge, hcgenerate, n2guard, protien, ect ect for our on cycle needs at a discounted rate. This both makes it appealing to the eye and the pocket
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I agree^^^
 
Guys,


The prices are back to what they always were. You guys went through a Black Sale that most retailers do in Nov, but believe me NTBM did not make a good margin those days and this is why products are back up to regular price.

Sales are always happening so lookout.

:)
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Guys,


The prices are back to what they always were. You guys went through a Black Sale that most retailers do in Nov, but believe me NTBM did not make a good margin those days and this is why products are back up to regular price.

Sales are always happening so lookout.

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Good to know Rick. It didn't make sense.
I still say ntbm needs to put a "aas bundle" together. It just makes sense considering how many of us love the products and want to use them.
I'm suggesting 2 bags of protein, 2 bottles of bridge, 1 bottle d test daa, 1 package unleashed/post cycle, 3 bottles n2guard, enough hcgenerate for 8 weeks min, a code for discount at mrsupps and chemical need for ancillaries and forma stanzol, or something along those lines of these cant be part of a bundle on ntbm.
I can speak for everyone when I say we would rather buy everything at a "one stop shop" rather than piece meal and its good for beginners who don't know wtf their looking for.
I hold no weight in this decision im just sayin, Anyone agree?
 
N2 Protein price went up this year for sure. I have moved on and found what I prefer more as a result.

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Ntbm has the best products..you get what you pay for...great bunch of guys also
 
Guys,

To show some love...

Here is a 25% OFF code good only until tomorrow Midnight:

Olympia-25

;) Cause we love ya!

Now stop botching about the prices, the stuff NTBM makes costs a fortune to make and that is why the prices are high. You go Supp fact to Supp fact with most brands and you will see the VALUE in the NTBM line.

25% off, till tomorrow Midnight, this is to welcome N2 Slin back in stock!
 
Use code:

Olympia-25


That is it, and get 25% off until tomorrow midnight.
 
Nice deal!

I do hope this sup forum becomes less biased and therefore more useful.

It has been a joke lately. Only trying to sell products.

My recent visits to this forum have only been for a laugh.

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MassMoose said:
Nice deal!

I do hope this sup forum becomes less biased and therefore more useful.

It has been a joke lately. Only trying to sell products.

My recent visits to this forum have only been for a laugh.

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Brother - people come to these forums to learn from other about their cycles, getting great results and staying safe. Part of that is acquiring products to take to help their progress along.

The sponsor's products that are promoted here, were designed by guys like the ones here, who wanted something VERY different in their supplements than what the mainstream was making and decided to roll up their sleeves and make it for the community.

The forum is only "bias" because the guys who try the products all agree are the best they ever used. All reviews are allowed nothing is censored as long as it is honest The community has spoken!



-BRR
 
NTBM are not expensive at all. the whey went up a few bucks in price because everytime we would get in a new shipment it would get sold out overnight and people would bitch, so we raise the price so people STOP HOGGING up all the best flavors. and people still bitch about it. try finding a whey out there with 2g of sugar per serving and no fillers in it that tastes great and is addicting like WTBM. you can't!!

if you want to buy soy and sugar filled supps from gnc or mao-mart shipped in from china that pretty much won't do anything for you than you are doing yourself a huge dis-service.

LEARN TO READ INGREDIENTS PEOPLE. a burger from mcdonalds costs less than a burger made from scratch for a reason. its the ingredients!!

add to that free shipping which nobody else out there does unless you are lucky and order during an amazon promotion or something.. and then on top of that you get 15-25% using the code.
 
MassMoose said:
Nice deal!

I do hope this sup forum becomes less biased and therefore more useful.

It has been a joke lately. Only trying to sell products.

My recent visits to this forum have only been for a laugh.

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you have 74 posts and the majority of them are bashing sponsors even though you have never even tried them. maybe you should find another board like bodybuilding.com who caters to young newbs and sells $22 supplements with the first 2 ingredients soy and sugar
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Guys,

To show some love...

Here is a 25% OFF code good only until tomorrow Midnight:

Olympia-25

;) Cause we love ya!

Now stop botching about the prices, the stuff NTBM makes costs a fortune to make and that is why the prices are high. You go Supp fact to Supp fact with most brands and you will see the VALUE in the NTBM line.

25% off, till tomorrow Midnight, this is to welcome N2 Slin back in stock!
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Ask and you shall receive.
That's awesome. Can't ask for more than that.
Big Rick, we never got to speak before. That's a hell of a solution. Ill be putting my order together.
Thank you
 
Just got n2slin, cinnamon bun wtbm, 2 bottles of n2guard...
I'm a happy noodles. :)
Anyone used n2slin? I never used it before but sounds great
 
Just noticed Whey to build muscle contains soy protein concentrate. Interesting, but I'm ok with it. Definitely taking advantage of the discount.

Has anyone tried the egg nog flavor?
 
^^^ never tried egg nog protein or egg nog that they give people on the holidays but i would imagine if you like egg nog you would like the protein flavored egg nog.

I will tell you the ones i've tried, i like to change up the flavors because I get bored every month with the same ones:

cake batter (maybe the best flavor of all but it doesn't sell in 5 pound bags right now, i got it as a sample)
choc fudge (if you are a choc lover you will like this one, I am not a big choc person)
pb crunch (one of my favs, rarely stays in stock everyone hogs this one.. if you like those peanut butter cups you will like this one)
cinnabun (tastes like cinnabun, maybe too sweet for me)
ice cream sandwich (got this last month for the first time and liked it, has little pieces of black sandwich in them)
rocky road (liked this flavor, i heat it up and it tastes like hot cocoa)
banana (this is the one for guys who like neutral flavors, tastes like a banana and won't make you think you are drinking anything too sweet if you know what i mean)

interested in mixing the strawberry with the ice cream sandwich, cake batter, or rocky road.. i bet it would taste like a strawberry milkshake and bring back memories of when i used to drink those strawberry milkshakes as a kid.

if you mix any of these flavors with rice or almond milk the taste is amazing.. i usually mix with plain water though because I want to cut down on my cals
 
Steve

If you use the vanilla flavored unsweetened almomd milk by silk it is only 30 cals per 8 ounces with no carbs.

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They just had a nice 25% off sale today, took advantage of it and saved like $85 off my order, there is always 15% codes floating around and just wait until you see what NTBM has in store for all of us in 2013...shit is going to get epic, that is all I can say :D

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Headholio said:
Just noticed Whey to build muscle contains soy protein concentrate. Interesting, but I'm ok with it. Definitely taking advantage of the discount.

Has anyone tried the egg nog flavor?
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My blend is 60 percent whey isolate, 30 percent whey concentrate, and 10 percent soy.. A perfect blend for getting great protein into the body that taste bomb , mixes almost perfect and goes down like drinking candy.. When we do anything we do it the best way we can..
 
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I'm on bridge right now and I feel like shitting a bag of skittles...pure magic {+_+} ;) <° °> :-]

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Anyone that has used ntbm and compared it to other companies can easily tell the difference in so many aspects... There are a lot of companies that claim to have similar products that do similar things but they always seem to fall short and yet ntbm still reigns supreme... A lot of places "claim" to have the same types of ingredients etc... but how do they continuously fall short? The results and the feedback speaks for itself... I would NEVER back any product that did not do what is claimed... That's not the way I operate... I support ntbm so much because of the consistency of the product and the result... You also need to factor in the free shipping, the constant promotions and the continuous work that is involved in not only improving products but the formulating of new products... Its a never ending process that goes on within the company that continues to lead to the constant success of many of you... Ntbm is innovative and consistent... These are two things that are very hard to find... Sometimes prices need to be raised because costs are raised... Have you ever gone to the store and one week eggs are more expensive than they were the last week and may stay that way for some time and then out of nowhere they may fall... This holds true for all products... Its called supply and demand... Its also called importing and exporting... A simple class of economics can teach us all how this pertains to the entire business world... The more we understand and grasp these facts, the more we can understand pricing and business in general... A superior product is always going to cost more because the cost in formulating it with higher quality essentials is going to cost more... Rarely will you find a superior product that is cheaper than its competitors because the raw materials used in creating such a product cost more... The time and effort to be consistent with each and every product made is costly... This is simple business 101 and we need to keep these things in mind... You are getting a superior product and to me, when I am putting things into my body, I want consistency and quality and am always willing to pay a bit extra to get this... Anyone that shops at whole foods or places of that nature always pay more but they are paying for the quality... It is worth it in every regard just as it is with your supplements... NTBM will continue producing with consistency and quality and everyone that cares about this will continue to stay loyal and continue to get the results they are looking for... Just keep all of this in mind...
 
PHGHI said:
I pay $38 for whey isolate premium protein from Sam's Club. Muscle Tech brand for 5lbs.
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Sam's club is walmart bro. one of the most evil companies out there.. go to one and look at the people who shop there and see what they look like.. there is a reason for that.. cheap ingredients = cheap food

you gotta know what you are buying, read the ingredients..

more than half of the ingredients in it are just fillers. so you are buying maybe 2 pounds of protein and 3 pounds of shit that frankly isn't good for you. so are you sure that you are getting a deal? in reality you are getting ripped off. you should take it back and ask for your money back. it probably cost them $4 to make that tub and they sold it to you for a $34 markup. it even warns on the label 'may contain sulfites'.. you know that crummy feeling in your stomach you get after drinking it? yeah those are the sulfites. might as well stick your head down a toilet bowl into a sewer and take a big whiff, you would get the same benefits.
 
Well with this sale goin on no one in this thread can say anything anymore. Can't ask for more than 25%.
Go get it guys...
 
I literally bought a Sarms stack + support this weekend. Look at the cost:

2 bottles Ostarine
1 bottle S4
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$500

2 bottles HCGenerate = $150
Whey protein = 60
2 bottles bridge = 120
daa = 20
creatine = 40
postcycle/unleashed = 150
Gear = 50

$1,000 bucks pretty much, although i used to spend quite a bit on stuff that barely works or doesnt work aat all (CLA, BCAA's etc). The stack better be worth it, looking at it in these terms i now see i spent a lot, which is a good thing only in the sense that the products are high quality and it will make me work out like an animal in the gym because i wont want to waste any days during the 8 weeks
 
stevesmi said:
Sam's club is walmart bro. one of the most evil companies out there.. go to one and look at the people who shop there and see what they look like.. there is a reason for that.. cheap ingredients = cheap food

you gotta know what you are buying, read the ingredients..

more than half of the ingredients in it are just fillers. so you are buying maybe 2 pounds of protein and 3 pounds of shit that frankly isn't good for you. so are you sure that you are getting a deal? in reality you are getting ripped off. you should take it back and ask for your money back. it probably cost them $4 to make that tub and they sold it to you for a $34 markup. it even warns on the label 'may contain sulfites'.. you know that crummy feeling in your stomach you get after drinking it? yeah those are the sulfites. might as well stick your head down a toilet bowl into a sewer and take a big whiff, you would get the same benefits.
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Honestly anyone reading this should listen up, in my personal experience with the cheap ass brand muscle tech, i tried their dextrose creatine supplement, i was vomiting so badly after i got back from the gym it was the first time in my life i thought i was going to die (Srs)
 
kkklick said:
I literally bought a Sarms stack + support this weekend. Look at the cost:

2 bottles Ostarine
1 bottle S4
_____________________
$500

2 bottles HCGenerate = $150
Whey protein = 60
2 bottles bridge = 120
daa = 20
creatine = 40
postcycle/unleashed = 150
Gear = 50

$1,000 bucks pretty much, although i used to spend quite a bit on stuff that barely works or doesnt work aat all (CLA, BCAA's etc). The stack better be worth it, looking at it in these terms i now see i spent a lot, which is a good thing only in the sense that the products are high quality and it will make me work out like an animal in the gym because i wont want to waste any days during the 8 weeks
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It will be worth it bro! Kill it and enjoy!

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kkklick said:
I literally bought a Sarms stack + support this weekend. Look at the cost:

2 bottles Ostarine
1 bottle S4
_____________________
$500

2 bottles HCGenerate = $150
Whey protein = 60
2 bottles bridge = 120
daa = 20
creatine = 40
postcycle/unleashed = 150
Gear = 50

$1,000 bucks pretty much, although i used to spend quite a bit on stuff that barely works or doesnt work aat all (CLA, BCAA's etc). The stack better be worth it, looking at it in these terms i now see i spent a lot, which is a good thing only in the sense that the products are high quality and it will make me work out like an animal in the gym because i wont want to waste any days during the 8 weeks
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You got some top notch stuff from Need To Build Muscle bro. The HCGenerate and Bridge will have you feeling like a new man.

D-Asparic acid is just an awesome product with instant rewards right after taking it.

GEAR is going to make it easy for you to convert every meal into a high protein meal and get the very most out of each gram of protein in your meal, every meal!

It is all awesome stuff man that is sure to have a great impact on your progress.

Log it here for all of us to see please bro!

PS: Wait till you taste the protein WOW!
 
kkklick said:
Honestly anyone reading this should listen up, in my personal experience with the cheap ass brand muscle tech, i tried their dextrose creatine supplement, i was vomiting so badly after i got back from the gym it was the first time in my life i thought i was going to die (Srs)
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yup its the sulfites.

shame on them for poisoning naive teens trying to build muscle.

here is something i pulled about sulfites. its pretty much a preservative.. since their products are shipped in from china or wherever they want to keep a long shelf life. http://allergies.about.com/od/foodallergies/a/sulfites.htm
 
Mr-o sale is extended!
Olympia-25 = coupon code. Sale Ends 12/11 @ midnight. n2bm is always here for its customers.

Check the ingredients, fast priority shipping and quality of products. Worth the $


Its like comparing prime rib to 80% ground chuck.

comeon
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ never tried egg nog protein or egg nog that they give people on the holidays but i would imagine if you like egg nog you would like the protein flavored egg nog.

I will tell you the ones i've tried, i like to change up the flavors because I get bored every month with the same ones:

cake batter (maybe the best flavor of all but it doesn't sell in 5 pound bags right now, i got it as a sample)
choc fudge (if you are a choc lover you will like this one, I am not a big choc person)
pb crunch (one of my favs, rarely stays in stock everyone hogs this one.. if you like those peanut butter cups you will like this one)
cinnabun (tastes like cinnabun, maybe too sweet for me)
ice cream sandwich (got this last month for the first time and liked it, has little pieces of black sandwich in them)
rocky road (liked this flavor, i heat it up and it tastes like hot cocoa)
banana (this is the one for guys who like neutral flavors, tastes like a banana and won't make you think you are drinking anything too sweet if you know what i mean)

interested in mixing the strawberry with the ice cream sandwich, cake batter, or rocky road.. i bet it would taste like a strawberry milkshake and bring back memories of when i used to drink those strawberry milkshakes as a kid.

if you mix any of these flavors with rice or almond milk the taste is amazing.. i usually mix with plain water though because I want to cut down on my cals
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I just received my fiver of egg nog and five of Chocolate fudge. This was my second order from NTBM. Good fast service both times.
I'm looking forward to tasting them. Dude I can't believe you haven't tasted egg nog! Tis the season, you should give it a try! Its awesome and totally unhealthy!

I was wondering about PB crunch and Rocky Road.
You describe the PB crunch as a peanut butter cup, so does that mean its like chocolate PB combo? And whats the crunch? Are their pieces of peanut in it?

And whats in the rocky road? Does it have chunks as well?
 
Headholio said:
I just received my fiver of egg nog and five of Chocolate fudge. This was my second order from NTBM. Good fast service both times.
I'm looking forward to tasting them. Dude I can't believe you haven't tasted egg nog! Tis the season, you should give it a try! Its awesome and totally unhealthy!

I was wondering about PB crunch and Rocky Road.
You describe the PB crunch as a peanut butter cup, so does that mean its like chocolate PB combo? And whats the crunch? Are their pieces of peanut in it?

And whats in the rocky road? Does it have chunks as well?
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Rocky Road does not have crunchies, just smooth, creamy, and delicious :D...nice shameless plug there huh? The Peanut Butter Crunch is one of my favorites especially to make my homemade protein bars, and has crunchies...pieces of chocolate cookie, tastes really really good! I also like Cinnamon Bun, Apple Cinnamon, Chocolate Fudge, Ice Cream Sandwich, Vanilla Caramel, and Cake batter...really nice variety of flavors that taste awesome, low sugar & carbs, and tastes best with Almond Milk!

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muscleaddiction said:
Rocky Road does not have crunchies, just smooth, creamy, and delicious :D...nice shameless plug there huh? The Peanut Butter Crunch is one of my favorites especially to make my homemade protein bars, and has crunchies...pieces of chocolate cookie, tastes really really good! I also like Cinnamon Bun, Apple Cinnamon, Chocolate Fudge, Ice Cream Sandwich, Vanilla Caramel, and Cake batter...really nice variety of flavors that taste awesome, low sugar & carbs, and tastes best with Almond Milk!

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As I sit drinking my ice cream sandwich with almond milk. Good call
 
i need to try almond milk... always hear about it.

i use skim. I need to keep up with the times.

Whats the benefits of almond milk? just lower cals?
 
I have an amazing peanut butter crunch recipe, mix 2 scoops with 50ml low fat milk until the texture is smooth but thick, pour the contents into a muffin paper cup sprayed with non stick cooking spray. Put it in the freezer for 45 min, take it out and take off the muffin cup, then take 1/2 cup raw oats and cover the protein muffin in it. Your welcome bros, tastes FUCKIN good, along with 6 egg whites and this is my breakfast/pre workout meal everyday
 
kkklick said:
I have an amazing peanut butter crunch recipe, mix 2 scoops with 50ml low fat milk until the texture is smooth but thick, pour the contents into a muffin paper cup sprayed with non stick cooking spray. Put it in the freezer for 45 min, take it out and take off the muffin cup, then take 1/2 cup raw oats and cover the protein muffin in it. Your welcome bros, tastes FUCKIN good, along with 6 egg whites and this is my breakfast/pre workout meal everyday
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sounds deliciious man.

i am so happy to have a 5 lb bag of pb crunch and cinna bun
 
I got a 5 pounder of cinnabun on the way, ive always wanted to create a cinnamon protein recipe but using vanilla protein and cinnamon never works. Ive had a sample of cinnabun and my God it tastes good, stay tuned ill have an amazing recipe once i get it
 
I just got my cinnabun. Holy good god! I'm buying 2 more. Best protien ever. I feel guilty drinking it cause it tasted too good to be legit lol
 
Noodles1010 said:
I just got my cinnabun. Holy good god! I'm buying 2 more. Best protien ever. I feel guilty drinking it cause it tasted too good to be legit lol
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The surprising part is how good it tastes in water! No other protein ive ever had tasted even edible when mixed with water
 
Phytoserms has to be the most over priced supplement in the history of mankind. 147 for a month????!!!! I would like to try it sometime but bogo would be the only way I would consider it. Would still feel ripped off but would try it then
 
I picked up so muscle replenisher and boy that sure taste like shit! I'm a little jealous that u guys scored on the good tasting stuff

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IncredibleHoss said:
i need to try almond milk... always hear about it.

i use skim. I need to keep up with the times.

Whats the benefits of almond milk? just lower cals?
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skim milk is just sugar and liquid bro... really no benefit to someone bulking or cutting.. you could just mix some sugar up in a gallon of water and you would get the same benefit
 
stevesmi said:
skim milk is just sugar and liquid bro... really no benefit to someone bulking or cutting.. you could just mix some sugar up in a gallon of water and you would get the same benefit
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I'm a big supporter of almond milk (I use it for my shakes), but this statement isn't true. Skim milk has 9 grams of protein per 8 ounce serving. That's not just sugar and water.
 
notjake11 said:
I'm a big supporter of almond milk (I use it for my shakes), but this statement isn't true. Skim milk has 9 grams of protein per 8 ounce serving. That's not just sugar and water.
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Lol ya wtf?? Just sugar and water? Steve... You know that isn't true as well as I do. No disrespect.
 
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I probably get a third of my protein and easily half of my calories from milk. Always have. It has done me pretty well. I don't know where all these myths about milk come from but they aren't true. Just sayin'...
 
Yeah, I'm gonna have to jump on the bandwagon of disagreement with skim milk being worthless. I've been lifting for 12 years now, and milk has always been a staple in my diet. At some points, I used to drink an entire gallon, but anymore these days, I'll at least have it in the morning with my cereal, and also mixed with my post-workout shake. Currently sitting at 6'0" 230, and (LEGITIMATELY) single-digit b/f.
 
GymDog99 said:
Yeah, I'm gonna have to jump on the bandwagon of disagreement with skim milk being worthless. I've been lifting for 12 years now, and milk has always been a staple in my diet. At some points, I used to drink an entire gallon, but anymore these days, I'll at least have it in the morning with my cereal, and also mixed with my post-workout shake. Currently sitting at 6'0" 230, and (LEGITIMATELY) single-digit b/f.
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Milk fks my body up! I think I'm allergic. I fart for hours after one glass. As long as I ditch dairy I'm perfectly fine. Weird
 
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