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which ph would you run?

jonny92345

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Hey all i posted earlier asking about using transaderm as a test base for a dianabol cycle and got the answer that it would be fine as a test base with an oral ph/aas but out of the 3 cycles below which one would you say is best and why please? I really dont want to inject btw hence using transaderm as a test base just for everyone whos gonna tell me to run test e 12 week :/ i dont mean to sound ignorant saying that i just couldnt injecy myself.
The cycles:

2 week pre load transaderm
Week 1-6 dianabol 30mg or beastdrol/katanadrol or ultradrol/trenazone
Week 1-6 transaderm
Week 1-10 forma-stanzol
Week 1-10 n2guard

Pct 4 week
Clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5
Unleashed/post cycle
Hcgenerate
Testforce2 (daa)
Kre-alkalyn

Thanks for any input im just curious to see which one majority of people would prefer to run for strength and size gain
 
If this is your first cycle stick with one compound...no stacks, and Beastdrol is not a good choice for a first cycle...Hella is a better choice.

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Canu give us some stats about u jonny?
Bodyfat approx %, Age, Height, Weight, Training history, Cycle history?
Thx.

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Hey sorry about late reply been busy, yeah sure heres everything
Age:21
Height:5 ft 5.5 inch
Weight:151lb
Training:3 years training started at 130-132lb
Bf%: between 10-15 i dont really know tbh.
Lifts: bench 110kg x 1 rep deadlift 145kg x 3 rep squat 145kg x 1 rep (145kg is all i have in weight at the moment..train at home)
Cycle history: h-drol 6 week 100mg highest i went last 2 weeks did nothing for me strength wise looked abit more vascular gained 4lb...kept after pct also 6 week later
Also did 4 weeks ams rd stack 1ad,4ad,decavol done nothing for me so far been 3 weeks stopped kre-alkalyn before cycle and lost 3lb after 2 weeks of discontiuing small amount of water loss maybe but iv got a week left of the ams nothing has really give me that "on" feeling so i was looking for something stronger with the stacks stated in the first post, im going to post some pics tommorow because my weight does me no justice what so ever i believe i look like i weigh more i carry alot more muscle than alot of guys at my weight but like i said il post pica tommorow its late where i am and im going to bed lol, thanks for replying il be in touch tommorow.
 
Dianabol or beast will be good for strength and "size" but you will bloat up with water and lose a lot of your size in pct. you won't get as strong or big but helladrol and trenazone will put on more quality weight you can keep in pct. you can gain 10 quality lbs with that and and if you dont you aren't eating right. Nutrition will really dictate your results.
 
Dianabol or beast will be good for strength and "size" but you will bloat up with water and lose a lot of your size in pct. you won't get as strong or big but helladrol and trenazone will put on more quality weight you can keep in pct. you can gain 10 quality lbs with that and and if you dont you aren't eating right. Nutrition will really dictate your results.

Agree with the diet comment, Dbol will put water retention on you, but Beast won't...but I think Beast is too much at this point...just my opinion...Hella & Trenazone would be good, even Ultra & Trenazone...Dylan just came off that cycle, did really well for him...but if really depends on what you want out of the cycle...and I will just add because I have to and I care...you are too young to be messing with these compounds bro...you haven't reached your natural potential yet, but you will do whatever you want to do and I would rather you get some quality guidance at this point instead of you getting reamed here for cycling at a young age.

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Agree with the diet comment, Dbol will put water retention on you, but Beast won't...but I think Beast is too much at this point...just my opinion...Hella & Trenazone would be good, even Ultra & Trenazone...Dylan just came off that cycle, did really well for him...but if really depends on what you want out of the cycle...and I will just add because I have to and I care...you are too young to be messing with these compounds bro...you haven't reached your natural potential yet, but you will do whatever you want to do and I would rather you get some quality guidance at this point instead of you getting reamed here for cycling at a young age.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ listen to my bro here man... he is speaking the truth... i can advise you on all of these but advising you on them would not be in your best interest... there is no need for you to be messing with any of this right now... its a big mistake that you will regret later if you start too early... take advantage of the fact that you can get big gains naturally and use them up until they can't be used anymore... why short yourself that? be smart with it man...
 
Ok so iv been bullied i cant post any photos till 25 posts :/ id rather you guys see the pics before you judge please i think i carry a fair bit of quality muscle my frame is tiny lol but i appreciate your guys help when i get 25 posts il get the photos up.
 
Ok so iv been bullied i cant post any photos till 25 posts :/ id rather you guys see the pics before you judge please i think i carry a fair bit of quality muscle my frame is tiny lol but i appreciate your guys help when i get 25 posts il get the photos up.

bro, we don't care about any of that... your too young to be messing with this and I TRULY HOPE your not insinuating that you want to do steroids because you've been bullied? am I reading that correctly??
 
Lmfao no i dont want steroids because iv been bullied o dont get bullied i want steroids for size and strength increase it was a figure of speech because i need 25 posts to post images up i have 6 posts. But ok fair enough i was just wondering every ph you look at says do not use under the age of 21 thats reason i thought i was ok see alot of people saying 25 too though bt fair does im not here to argue just to learn more thanks.
 
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