Sense of Entitlement??

[eddymerckx]

I may just be getting old but what is this sense of entitlement that appears to pervade some of the newbs?

I mean all the mod, mentors, experienced members do not have to help anyone--they do so to make gear use as safe as possible or, as the case may be, give honest answers that gear use is not the right choice. I mean this is the only board on the interwebs where you get honest answers about gear--so man bros put hours and hours helping these peeps that show no respect whatsoever.

I had an intern last summer that had this same sense that they were owed things based on the simple fact that they existed. Arrogance in youth is expected--who wasn't? but the degree I have seen in the past few weeks is disconcerting.

Okay done venting.

 

[Jaxtwo1]

Its all over the place. Id love to vent with you, but better not.

 

[anonymity]

Have noticed exactly the arrogance you speak of in some of the new threads over the past week. People come here having done no background research and demand answers for questions that have been answered ad nauseum, then when honest answers are given they threaten to run their cycle anyway, or act offended.

 

[stevesmi]

i never acted like that when i was a newb. i opened my ears and listened to experienced people.

i think i had a better understanding of steroids though, when i was in high school we were watching Rocky IV and the part where the russian boxer is getting pinned with steroids.. some kid who was a band geek and never played a sport ever said "no wonder he is so good at boxing he is taking steroids!" I corrected him and said even if someone was to take steroids they still have to workout hard and have boxing talent to be the best at it. you can't just take steroids and be a champion boxer.. and he gave me a look like i was crazy.

i think the newbs that don't want to listen just do not have an 'eye' for nutrition or steroids. otherwise they would be foaming at the mouth to get in the heads of vets of the board and not have this attitude that if its not the answer they were looking for its wrong.

 

[dylangemelli]

when i was new i just listened and learned... i took some shit and i had some people tell me i couldn't meet the expectations i had... i just worked hard to prove everyone wrong and thats what i did... but i listened, i learned and i used my tools... i never argued or counter attacked anything that was taught to me... i just took it all in and utilized it to the fullest... it is very disheartening to see the unappreciation that has been going on lately... a lot of use spend a lot of our free time doing this to help as many as we can and then get attacked for giving solid and helpful advice... Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of guys that appreciate the help very much and we all recognize that but lately, as eddy said, there's a lot of bullshit that's been going on... anymore of it and my replies in that thread will be a simple two word reply of "fuck you" because personally, I don't need nor want to hear any crybaby shit or anyone snapping back to me when they are given advice... if you don't like, don't fucking ask... sometimes, the truth hurts but you become a stronger person when you listen and learn... You will NEVER always hear what you want to hear but you can always take something from any certain situation and not only learn from it but turn it into a positive... I hope more people realize this... There are too many "hurt feelings" out there over advice... Its like these guys are on a continual dose of high clomid or something, fuck... If advice is given, its given for a good reason...

 

[TravFlex91]

when i was new i just listened and learned... i took some shit and i had some people tell me i couldn't meet the expectations i had... i just worked hard to prove everyone wrong and thats what i did... but i listened, i learned and i used my tools... i never argued or counter attacked anything that was taught to me... i just took it all in and utilized it to the fullest... it is very disheartening to see the unappreciation that has been going on lately... a lot of use spend a lot of our free time doing this to help as many as we can and then get attacked for giving solid and helpful advice... Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of guys that appreciate the help very much and we all recognize that but lately, as eddy said, there's a lot of bullshit that's been going on... anymore of it and my replies in that thread will be a simple two word reply of "fuck you" because personally, I don't need nor want to hear any crybaby shit or anyone snapping back to me when they are given advice... if you don't like, don't fucking ask... sometimes, the truth hurts but you become a stronger person when you listen and learn... You will NEVER always hear what you want to hear but you can always take something from any certain situation and not only learn from it but turn it into a positive... I hope more people realize this... There are too many "hurt feelings" out there over advice... Its like these guys are on a continual dose of high clomid or something, fuck... If advice is given, its given for a good reason...

Spot on mate. And I can personally say I appreciate EVERY ASPECT of advice I have gotten from you and Steve as well. Basically everyone actually.

 

[dylangemelli]

Spot on mate. And I can personally say I appreciate EVERY ASPECT of advice I have gotten from you and Steve as well. Basically everyone actually.

and your the type of person i love to give advice to because you take it, whether its what you want to hear or not and you use it to your advantage... im always here to help you bro...

 

[Seattleborn206]

It's a shame some of the attitudes these newbs have. They don't understand how much they could learn if the were just polite. I've learned so much from this board and the mods have been nothing but nice and more then willing to help

 

[soupeater]

just wanted to throw out a big thanks to all those who take time to help us noobs out. some of us really appreciate it

 

[Energy3]

I'm new here but I have age most new people are young and generally lack any sense of quality in their person!

That's where those with experience and good rational need to persist with the inconsiderate as hard as it can be as we're in changing times and most people don't listen to anyone! You will find some people on here are like woman "when getting dressed they have already made up their mind and still they ask for an opinion but if you speak out you get belittled for it" as their own seeking self gratification!