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WARNING!!! To All Members!

Nelson Montana

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It happens every couple of years. There's been a major crackdown on sources. It stands to reason. It's an election year and this stuff is an easy target. The Feds aren't going to upset the pay-offs they get from the people selling the hard stuff, so they go for the low hanging fruit -- the UG labs that sell on the net.

It's times like this I'm glad I get my HRT with a legal script. It may be time for some members to consider the same.

Bottom line: Whoever you thought was a trusted source -- AIN'T. It's just may be too risky right now.

Time to lay low until the heats off.

How long that will be is uncertain.

In the meantime, there are other options. Here are a few suggestions.

A: Use what you have in lower dosages and shorter cycles. The gains are more "keepable" when you do this anyway.

B: "Supplement" cycles with peptides and/or ancillary products. Cutting? Add a thermo and some GH and you'll need the tiniest amount gear. Bulking? Two BIG BLASTS and 50 mgs of dbol a day will yield HUGE gains. Eat more -- especially eggs. Food is very anabolic. Supps like desicatted liver are an inexpensive source of high quality protein and natural heeme iron (siilar to the RBC that setroids provide). Add some GEAR and you're in a very positive anabolic environment.

C: Take more time off. It'll be good for your receptors anyway. Learn some new training techniques. For extra anabolism use some BRIDGE and GEAR. You'll get better gains than you think. You may surprise yourself.

D: Get on HRT. Either use a sensible amount full time or save it up and do a decent cycle once or twice a year. It's still a big advantage and it's legal.

Most of all. BE CAREFUL AND DON"T DO ANYTHING STUPID. Sometimes people get too comfortable with this stuff and let their guard down and that's when they're susceptible to getting pinched. DON'T LET IT HAPPEN.

Stay safe brothers.
 
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Good heads up for everybody right here!
N2 taking care of the flock, thanks bro.
 
hmmm, this could be a bummer. do have any hints as to whom we should b aware of? if u want pm me.
 
I dont think this applies to overseas sources but good advice for domestic
 
I dont think this applies to overseas sources but good advice for domestic

i strongly disagree with this... domestic orders dont have to pass through customs, which is really where the crackdown starts because they are the easiest to catch...
i dont know how long you've been in the game, but domestic is ALWAYS the safer choice...
 
bottom line is don't order anything illegal for a little while cuz the wolves are circling.

this is the perfect time to grab some mr supps items since they are buy 1 get one free. i am gonna grab some more beastdrol, already got a bottle sitting in my pantry waiting to be cracked open.

oh and you don't have to worry about anything cause its LEGAL. brilliant!
 
You do have to worry about over seas sources. A birdie showed me an article where they landed a HUGE aas bust in Poland. Somewhere in the millions of $ in merchandise and money. Most of the money was in US currency. From what I've heard they've tightened the rope on the neck of customs.
 
bottom line is don't order anything illegal for a little while cuz the wolves are circling.

this is the perfect time to grab some mr supps items since they are buy 1 get one free. i am gonna grab some more beastdrol, already got a bottle sitting in my pantry waiting to be cracked open.

oh and you don't have to worry about anything cause its LEGAL. brilliant!

How long does beast last when not used?
 
:mad: Always going after the wrong ppl. Guess if they can't do there jobs right and go after the real criminals they got to take it out on other ppl.
 
The government: Let's pick on the people that are quite and not doing anything wrong and make them look bad because it's easy. It's too hard to go after drug Attics and criminals to make us look good for the election year.
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people who are dedicated to this sport need to run for political office. THIS MEANS YOU who are reading this on this forum. yes YOU. until we send some of us to washington then this is what is going to happen. congress writes the laws. if you don't like the laws then you run for office, win, and change the laws yourself. stop electing people the wrong people just cause they have an R or D in front of their name.

and people will continue to bitch and do nothing to fix the problem. either they will sit on their asses on election day, or they will pull the lever for someone based on if they are for some stupid social issue just like what happened in 2010.

this problem btw didn't just happen overnight. this happened during the 80's and 90's when congress started writing laws banning performance enhancing drugs. and these MEATHEADS at the gym are either felons and can't vote or they are too stupid to vote and elected dumbasses who took away our freedoms. hence we have these wonderful laws. thanks baby boomer generation for saddling my generation with debt and electing morons to office all throughout the 80's and 90's .. and if you go to countries where you can buy roids at the corner store you have 14 and 15 year olds juicing. so even if we had that freedom people would still ruin it .. so i really don't know what to say... anyway i'm done with my rant, i know nothing is gonna change so why bother..
 
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

~EZ
 
i strongly disagree with this... domestic orders dont have to pass through customs, which is really where the crackdown starts because they are the easiest to catch...
i dont know how long you've been in the game, but domestic is ALWAYS the safer choice...

Were talking about cracking down on domestic sources. Ive been in the game a good while, abd just made two overseas orders this year. The law in the US is customs doeant care as lpng as its a personal use amount. Ive had past packages opened, inspected, closed and stamped "opened/inspected by US Customs" then sent on its way to me no problem. Feds dont care about a few vials for personal use. The crackdown is on domestic sources. Now if other countries are cracking down on their foreign sources thats another matter.
 
This is why I am happy I only use products from mrsupps. orbit, NTBM. They have replaced my desire and need for anything illegal and I have felt better, had less anxiety and still made AMAZING gains! I am a happy man!
 
Well let me tell you all this. It begins at the dam Fed. Then they have the media spew mass dissinformation to get the ignorant public on their side. Then it moves down from the fed to the police. The police are mostly crimminals with badges and they just do mostly what they are told. Good orders or bad orders makes no diff. Thats why theyre cops cuz they follow orders no questions asked.....
Steve is right this all started in the 80s and 90s and now here we are. Best advice is what N2 has been telling us all. Get it out of your house! That way your clean and no issues. Take it for what its worth peeps!
Hoping the best for all my bros on here.
 
You do have to worry about over seas sources. A birdie showed me an article where they landed a HUGE aas bust in Poland. Somewhere in the millions of $ in merchandise and money. Most of the money was in US currency. From what I've heard they've tightened the rope on the neck of customs.

If it's the article I just read, that looks fake as shit and directed at stealing business. Be smarter.


Were talking about cracking down on domestic sources. Ive been in the game a good while, abd just made two overseas orders this year. The law in the US is customs doeant care as lpng as its a personal use amount. Ive had past packages opened, inspected, closed and stamped "opened/inspected by US Customs" then sent on its way to me no problem. Feds dont care about a few vials for personal use. The crackdown is on domestic sources. Now if other countries are cracking down on their foreign sources thats another matter.

I'm calling you out on this shit, if customs intercepts an illegal package it's supposed to be confiscated. There's no law that states "A personal amount of steroids is LEGAL". Sounds like you got a customs agent that was lazy and didn't wanna do paperwork.

Once again, as with any transaction involving this shit you should be smart. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BASHING ANOTHER GUY TO GET HIS BUSINESS UP OR SCARING PEOPLE TO GET THEIR BUSINESS UP. Not saying this is happening, but it's very well possible. Also it's usually the newer labs that are constantly taking in new customers that need to worry. Labs that have been around for YEARS are more than likely GTG.
 
This is why I am happy I only use products from mrsupps. orbit, NTBM. They have replaced my desire and need for anything illegal and I have felt better, had less anxiety and still made AMAZING gains! I am a happy man!

Same here.

My gains using legal supplements have actually been greater than with AAS, so those days are over for me.

I agree, there is much less anxiety associated with ordering and using these products, so life is good... And much simpler now... :)
 
I dont think this applies to overseas sources but good advice for domestic

Don't count on it. As a matter of fact two major known sources have been run by the fed for the past 5 months. And I know this for a fact for a good reason, it its fact!!!!!!!!

Country lines no longer stop these guys from getting to people. These days are over bro.. OVER!!!

They are out for blood the next 12-14 months will be epic and I bet no one hears a thing about any of it. THey are working smarter now guys. They are keeping it out of the new and off the court rosters. They are taking places over and running them now rather then shutting them down. THey are working the system against its self from the top of the chain down to the bottom of it. These fuckers are good guys they finely got smart and figured out how shit works.
 
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Domestically: 1. any source u are not familiar with can be undercover or scammer.
2. Any source you've dealt with in the past, no matter the familiarity, could have been busted and compromised with undercover posing as your "source" that you've known. Be smart. Be careful and good luck. Trusted Overseas source? 50-50 heads or tails can decide for you. At least customs confiscation may not be as "intensive" as far as going after " the destination" address of the package. Then again, "what do I kno?"

But I did sleep at a holiday inn express last night!
 
If it's the article I just read, that looks fake as shit and directed at stealing business. Be smarter.




I'm calling you out on this shit, if customs intercepts an illegal package it's supposed to be confiscated. There's no law that states "A personal amount of steroids is LEGAL". Sounds like you got a customs agent that was lazy and didn't wanna do paperwork.

Once again, as with any transaction involving this shit you should be smart. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BASHING ANOTHER GUY TO GET HIS BUSINESS UP OR SCARING PEOPLE TO GET THEIR BUSINESS UP. Not saying this is happening, but it's very well possible. Also it's usually the newer labs that are constantly taking in new customers that need to worry. Labs that have been around for YEARS are more than likely GTG.

This did happen to me once, got stamped as to be returned, but still showed up in the mail. But it was piulls for the cat, so I was not terribly worried. The vet was about 10x the price for the same sh*t.
 
Don't count on it. As a matter of fact two major known sources have been run by the fed for the past 5 months. And I know this for a fact for a good reason, it its fact!!!!!!!!

Country lines no longer stop these guys from getting to people. These days are over bro.. OVER!!!

They are out for blood the next 12-14 months will be epic and I bet no one hears a thing about any of it. THey are working smarter now guys. They are keeping it out of the new and off the court rosters. They are taking places over and running them now rather then shutting them down. THey are working the system against its self from the top of the chain down to the bottom of it. These fuckers are good guys they finely got smart and figured out how shit works.

So they are busting the bigger fish and still feeding the minnows to appear legit?
 
Steve is right, we are here to protect you!
Lets weed out this vermin.
 
Can someone here explain to me why the fed would waste all the taxpayer funded resources and go to these great lengths to bust us muscle heads for aas that is used for personal use? Wow what has this world come to when we are being targeted for our body building lifestyle.?

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
 
^^^ the same reason they shut down poker sites.. cause they can and cause the laws were passed by elected officials. funny that full tilt was shut down and now it turns out they were operating a ponzi scheme, so ironically the govt saved people from losing millions more money in the future once the ponzi scheme fell apart. basically they were accepting deposits and paying people who withdraw with those monies.. so if everyone were to withdraw at the same time they wouldn't of had the funds to pay out.
 
Good point Steve. I just think its sad that they don't have much bigger fish to fry. Well they do but choose not to. Stay safe bros!

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
 
I state clearly in my sig " DON'T ASK ME ABOUT SOURCES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY." That's never been my thing. My scoring days are behind me. I'm on HRT. I get lots of the best supplements. Nice and legal and healthy.

Yet, today, I get a PM from someone with 0 posts asking about a source. WTF?!?! Is somebody watching the boards and assuming that anyone who knows about this shit is going to offer source information to strangers? What the fucking fuck???!
 
I state clearly in my sig "DON'T ASK ME ABOUT SOURCES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY." That's never been my thing. My scoring days are behind me. I'm on HRT. Nice and legal.

Yet, today, I get a PM from someone with 0 posts asking about a source. WTF?!?!

Nelson please forward that pm to me Bro/
 
Damn nelson I guess im just not that cool. Lmao I have been here for two years and no one has ever asked me some stupid crap like that. Ef normally doesn't have alot of idiots doing that kind of thing. That's why I love it here.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
 
Nelson please forward that pm to me Bro/

DOne.

The funny thing is, I'm the last guy they should ask. I seriously did not even know the source he was talking about. If I DID, I sure as hell wouldn't give any advice or opinionsabout it. Honestly, I know a grand total of 3 internet sources known to be GTG and ALL THREE have gone down. So...take that for what it's worth.
 
Damn nelson I guess im just not that cool. Lmao I have been here for two years and no one has ever asked me some stupid crap like that. Ef normally doesn't have alot of idiots doing that kind of thing. That's why I love it here.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL

I haven't been approached by anyone yet,I guess they've seen my
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bottom line is don't order anything illegal for a little while cuz the wolves are circling.

this is the perfect time to grab some mr supps items since they are buy 1 get one free. i am gonna grab some more beastdrol, already got a bottle sitting in my pantry waiting to be cracked open.

oh and you don't have to worry about anything cause its LEGAL. brilliant!

Whats this beastdrol I
Hear of?
 
In the meantime, if anyone wants any advice on making the most effective cycle with the least amount of stuff, feel free to contact me or needto or Radar or any of the mods or vets. No one can afford this "I'm gonna do 500 mgs of tets, 400 mgs of deca, 400 gs of EQ, 50 dbol an day for 12 weeks and see what happens. Anything else you think I should add"

FUCK THAT SHIT!

These days, with what's available, you can do a cycle of 250 mgs of test a week with 25 mgs of dbol a day and get OUTSTANDING results. And more muscle is maintained fro a 6 week cycle than a 12 week cycle. PLUS, recovery is better.

So maybe this can be seen as a blessing in disguise.
 
I state clearly in my sig " DON'T ASK ME ABOUT SOURCES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY." That's never been my thing. My scoring days are behind me. I'm on HRT. I get lots of the best supplements. Nice and legal and healthy.

Yet, today, I get a PM from someone with 0 posts asking about a source. WTF?!?! Is somebody watching the boards and assuming that anyone who knows about this shit is going to offer source information to strangers? What the fucking fuck???!

Wow.....no one can be that f-ing stupid

~EZ
 
In the meantime, if anyone wants any advice on making the most effective cycle with the least amount of stuff, feel free to contact me or needto or Radar or any of the mods or vets. No one can afford this "I'm gonna do 500 mgs of tets, 400 mgs of deca, 400 gs of EQ, 50 dbol an day for 12 weeks and see what happens. Anything else you think I should add"

FUCK THAT SHIT!

These days, with what's available, you can do a cycle of 250 mgs of test a week with 25 mgs of dbol a day and get OUTSTANDING results. And more muscle is maintained fro a 6 week cycle than a 12 week cycle. PLUS, recovery is better.

So maybe this can be seen as a blessing in disguise.


That's funny you post this. I have enough Test E for a run of 300-350 for 10 weeks. I have asked on a couple other boards about running this dose with some Epi. Everyone preaches 500 for 10-12 weeks. One guy told me it would be a waste of time and gear at 300. It would be my first time ever. I dont have Dbol, but could run some low dose Beast. I was even told 300 is barely over HRT dosage.
 
That's funny you post this. I have enough Test E for a run of 300-350 for 10 weeks. I have asked on a couple other boards about running this dose with some Epi. Everyone preaches 500 for 10-12 weeks. One guy told me it would be a waste of time and gear at 300. It would be my first time ever. I dont have Dbol, but could run some low dose Beast. I was even told 300 is barely over HRT dosage.

I recently ran test only at 250mg a week for 10 weeks and saw very good gains, about 13 lbs. With a good diet and strong routine it's possible. Everyone tried to tell me the same but the proof is in the pudding.
 
That's funny you post this. I have enough Test E for a run of 300-350 for 10 weeks. I have asked on a couple other boards about running this dose with some Epi. Everyone preaches 500 for 10-12 weeks. One guy told me it would be a waste of time and gear at 300. It would be my first time ever. I dont have Dbol, but could run some low dose Beast. I was even told 300 is barely over HRT dosage.

What are you looking to do? I'll bet you have plenty to do 2 cycles over the next 6 months.
 
Raw Deal happened in September last time I think, would make sense to do busts like that at the end of the summer.
 
That's funny you post this. I have enough Test E for a run of 300-350 for 10 weeks. I have asked on a couple other boards about running this dose with some Epi. Everyone preaches 500 for 10-12 weeks. One guy told me it would be a waste of time and gear at 300. It would be my first time ever. I dont have Dbol, but could run some low dose Beast. I was even told 300 is barely over HRT dosage.

HRT is usually 100mg/week. 250mg puts me over 1100ng/dl.
 
Raw Deal happened in September last time I think, would make sense to do busts like that at the end of the summer.

yes, 4 years ago. Another election year.
 
Honestly I do not think this is anything new. NM say we should really watch out right now bc we are coming up on anew election cycle and they want things to bitch about and things to have on their platform. Well, we have some type of national election every two years so in all regards we should not be on our toes anymore than we already should be. We should always stay sharp and on our toes and not be stupid and put ourselves in positions that would get us into any sort of trouble.

So yes NM is right that we should be on guard, but no we shouldn't be crazy and not act the way we normally do, because normally we SHOULD be acting vigilant and keeping our ear to the ground and eyes wide open.
 
Man... should I delete my account and keep to myself?

No bro. Unless you're buying large quantities of AAS and selling them to others. Then you may want to consider it.
 
Honestly I do not think this is anything new. NM say we should really watch out right now bc we are coming up on anew election cycle and they want things to bitch about and things to have on their platform. Well, we have some type of national election every two years so in all regards we should not be on our toes anymore than we already should be. We should always stay sharp and on our toes and not be stupid and put ourselves in positions that would get us into any sort of trouble.

So yes NM is right that we should be on guard, but no we shouldn't be crazy and not act the way we normally do, because normally we SHOULD be acting vigilant and keeping our ear to the ground and eyes wide open.


True. And I don't want to make people paranoid. Sure, nobody wants the Feds to have access to UG labs info with a list of names, some of which you're on! But honestly, they're not looking for people who bought a personal supply of dbol. (Not that they WOULDN'T bust you for it, just that it's unlikely). They want the "showy" busts. The thing is, there's a good chance of sending your $$$ out and never seeing it again. Even if you check with them -- who is on the other end of that email?

If you have a source you know personally, that's one thing, but anything bought online is a big risk right now.
 
If it's the article I just read, that looks fake as shit and directed at stealing business. Be smarter.




I'm calling you out on this shit, if customs intercepts an illegal package it's supposed to be confiscated. There's no law that states "A personal amount of steroids is LEGAL". Sounds like you got a customs agent that was lazy and didn't wanna do paperwork.

Once again, as with any transaction involving this shit you should be smart. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BASHING ANOTHER GUY TO GET HIS BUSINESS UP OR SCARING PEOPLE TO GET THEIR BUSINESS UP. Not saying this is happening, but it's very well possible. Also it's usually the newer labs that are constantly taking in new customers that need to worry. Labs that have been around for YEARS are more than likely GTG.

this...
 
so thats the reason more than 5 well known sources and very popular by the way have closed operation recently ???? ummmm
 
so thats the reason more than 5 well known sources and very popular by the way have closed operation recently ???? ummmm

maybe. maybe they haven't closed operations. Depends who you are talking about I guess. Of course, don't mention source names on the board. :)
 
so thats the reason more than 5 well known sources and very popular by the way have closed operation recently ???? ummmm

ppphhttt... i hear about 'very popular' sources closing every other week... thats the nature of the business...
...ive not seen or heard anything besides this post even suggesting that there is anything to worry about... and this isnt even a source board...
 
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this wont hold me back from running my cycles ! but a few of them have even changed names, some other have shut down their websites, etc
 
Damn, I was about to go and start purchasing for a test/tren/mast cycle but not sure. I have var at home which I could run but feel thats a waste by itself without at least some test.
 
Damn, I was about to go and start purchasing for a test/tren/mast cycle but not sure. I have var at home which I could run but feel thats a waste by itself without at least some test.

Dude, var with BIG BLAST, phytoserms, BRIDGE, UNLEASHED and a little Beast would be an awesome cycle.
 
i strongly disagree with this... domestic orders dont have to pass through customs, which is really where the crackdown starts because they are the easiest to catch...
i dont know how long you've been in the game, but domestic is ALWAYS the safer choice...

Agreed.. Brother. They just want ya to spend money here.
 
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